Ipod and winamp

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I have an ipod and I've never really liked itunes all that much. It seems to be a memory hog in windows, and it doesn't do a lot of the things it should.

Recently I found that you can use winamp and an ipod plugin called ipod support (I think). It does everything imaginable and it's very easy and of course, it's free.

Another thing is does is allow you to backup the music on your ipod. Itunes provides no way to get the music off of your device if your home computer crashes.

Anyone else use winamp for their ipod?

The only thing I haven't figured out is how to sync podcasts, but I know you can.
 
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I think the ipod plugin is actually named ml_ipod
 
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Not too bad. I know a lot of people hate iTunes, but I've managed to corral it. I usually plug my iPod directly to my computer speakers anyhow, iTunes is only up when it needs to be.
 
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Um... Let's see.

iPod = straight 80gb of musical goodness.
Zune = Ill-designed, tougher to use junker with useless features like FM radio and sharing songs wirelessly with the other 40 or so Zune owners out there that you can play three times before you're shut down because Microsoft is an evil corporaiton.
 
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I like iTunes. But you CAN get the music off of your iPod after a crash. You have to plug the iPod in, right click, explore, open up the folders, and in one of those all of your music should be stored. It has to be in share mode or whatever they call the open disk mode where you can put files on and stuff, like a giant flash drive. The music isn't labeled correctly (all alphanumeric random crap), but iTunes reads it right.
 
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VOLatile said:
I like iTunes. But you CAN get the music off of your iPod after a crash. You have to plug the iPod in, right click, explore, open up the folders, and in one of those all of your music should be stored. It has to be in share mode or whatever they call the open disk mode where you can put files on and stuff, like a giant flash drive. The music isn't labeled correctly (all alphanumeric random crap), but iTunes reads it right.
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Really? I've seen several articles on the net saying that it was impossible with itunes due to their digital rights management. So either those articles were wrong or it's a feature that's been recently added to itunes. :dunno:
 
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Milo, I actually like the FM radio feature.

VOLatile do you use itunes on pc or mac?

And why does it insist on installing quicktime?
 
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I also like the FM radio feature?!?!?

Zune works great for me with no complaints. My is a 30gb verison which I think all Zunes are. I currently have 150+ full albums with several movies for travel.
 
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If I ever buy a hard drive player I may consider a Zune. I have a Nano mostly because I like the small size and I love the navigation of the ipod.

How is the navigation on the Zune, good? Is it easy to quickly fast forward to then end of a 3 hour audiobook?
 
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Plus why do certain people say the Ipod is better because of ITunes.com? Do people still pay for music? :)
 
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sure, don't you? :) (buy music)

I don't know if they mean itunes.com or just the itunes software in general. Not to mention the itunes purchased files are .m4p and can't be played in any other players unless converted.
 
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AMEN!!!

Thanks for reminding me!!! The main reason I got a Zune is drag and drop with MP3. No converting needed. Plus with 360 users you can plug it right in and have access to all your music, video, pictures, and playlists that you created.
 
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vol_freak said:
Really? I've seen several articles on the net saying that it was impossible with itunes due to their digital rights management. So either those articles were wrong or it's a feature that's been recently added to itunes. :dunno:
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Digital rights management is only with iTunes-purchased music. The iPod can play all other major file formats.

vol_freak said:
Milo, I actually like the FM radio feature.
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Maybe it's because Portland radio sucks...

vol_freak said:
I don't know if they mean itunes.com or just the itunes software in general. Not to mention the itunes purchased files are .m4p and can't be played in any other players unless converted.
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You can't convert iTunes-purchased music. It's a locked format.

SmokeyVol said:
AMEN!!!

Thanks for reminding me!!! The main reason I got a Zune is drag and drop with MP3. No converting needed. Plus with 360 users you can plug it right in and have access to all your music, video, pictures, and playlists that you created.
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You don't need a converter to play files on an iPod. When I called it a hard drive, I meant it--near-universal file acceptance. The tough thing to keep under control with iTunes is the ID3 tags; but the same can be said of any music management system.
 
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One thing about the radio feature that I did like was when I had a three hour layover in Chi-town it was interesting listening to their sports talk shows. They never talked about college sports though it was all about pros.
 
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vol_freak said:
Really? I've seen several articles on the net saying that it was impossible with itunes due to their digital rights management. So either those articles were wrong or it's a feature that's been recently added to itunes. :dunno:
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You can do this, so long as you are the original owner of the music. Once you sign into iTunes again and try to play a song downloaded from iTunes, it will ask you for your username and password. If I remember correctly. It's been a while.

I have a mini BTW and use a pc. I'd like a mac... but I don't have a lot of $$$ to blow.
 
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I have had a problem lately with itunes not reading downloaded music that I try to add to the library...they are all mp3 files, but there are always certain folders it won't add :dunno:
 
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milohimself said:
Digital rights management is only with iTunes-purchased music. The iPod can play all other major file formats.
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I was referring to being able to play them in media player or winamp.

I just don't like proprietary formats. If I buy the cd I can rip it onto several mp3 players, ipod or not. If I buy it from Itunes I can only listen on ipods. Right?
 
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vol_freak said:
I was referring to being able to play them in media player or winamp.

I just don't like proprietary formats. If I buy the cd I can rip it onto several mp3 players, ipod or not. If I buy it from Itunes I can only listen on ipods. Right?
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that is my understanding...unless you pay the extra money for the itunes plus music (DRM-free). A lot of songs aren't available in that format, and the ones that are are 1.29 each...but they should be transferable to other mp3 players and play through most music playing software.
 
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