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Majors went 34-9-2 in his last 3 1/2 season at Tennessee (45 games). 1989-1992

Fulmer is 31-14 in his last 3+ years (45 games). 2002-2005
 
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Fulmer IS the administration. :lol:

I am not for Fulmer leaving by any means. I just thought it was an interesting comparison.
 
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Well, they're both conservative minded coaches. It's just funny we replaced Majors for the same thing pretty much.
 
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I don't know if I'd quite say that. Fulmer is conservative, but Johnny turned laying on the ball with a lead into an art form.
 
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nice stat freak. That may be the most condemning stat yet.

So i guess we can we say that Majors left the program in better shape then what Fulmer is gonna leave the program in, if and when he does.

Amazing......

Not to mention majors brought the program from routinely 6-4, to some respectability. Fulmer has actually taken the program into decline.
 
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I'll never forget the day that we got a lead and proceeded to handoff to William Howard 13 consecutive times!?!
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 24, 2005 11:08 PM
I don't know if I'd quite say that.  Fulmer is conservative, but Johnny turned laying on the ball with a lead into an art form.
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Majors said the real reason they were laying on a lead was he wanted to put more emphasis on the kicking game........
 
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Johnny had a great and usually sucessful emphasis on the kicking game. He also knew when to make changes such as in 1988 after starting 0-6, he fired his DC Ken Donahue and replaced him with a coach from the offense(Doug Matthews) and righted the ship. No, I'm not a disgrutled Majors loyalist. I had pretty good sources on the staff that relate that he had some brain dysfunction after his heart bypass surgery and had he not been removed, mass mutiny of players would have occurred. He was abrasive and apparently ran off a lot of prospects, but as a coach of the talent he had and judge of assistants he was very good.
 
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I am a Bama Fan.... I do agree that what Bama's booster did was totally wrong. I believe he was trying to help Bama gain an edge. However, my problem with Fulmer is that he was a secret witness. An example of a true man would be Spurrier when he wrote a letter to Mike Dubose. Spurrier was running a clean program and had nothing to lose by stepping out in the open and sayin "fix your problem." Fulmer on the other hand had to do things in a secretive way. We will never know what he was trying to hide or even if he was; however, he was doing the same thing the bama booster was doing. Trying to gain a competitive edge on Bama... He had an excellent record versus my beloved Tide prior to 2002. Since 2002 when bama went on probation he is 2-2 including the first victory by Alabama in Tuscaloosa since 1930, and in the state of Alabama since 1991. All of this to prove the point that no one involved in the scandal remains at Alabama... Fulmer remains at UT and the TIDE is turning... Bama will not win the NC this year.... But in a streaky series this could be Fulmers last win versus bama.... Then everyone will be given what is due...
 
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Originally posted by rockydoc@Oct 24, 2005 11:27 PM
I had pretty good sources on the staff that relate that he had some brain dysfunction after his heart bypass surgery and had he not been removed, mass mutiny of players would have occurred.
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I've heard similar stories of odd behavior. I don't think there's any doubt that he came back way too soon.
 
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Originally posted by rockydoc@Oct 24, 2005 10:27 PM
Johnny had a great and usually sucessful emphasis on the kicking game. He also knew when to make changes such as in 1988 after starting 0-6, he fired his DC Ken Donahue and replaced him with a coach from the offense(Doug Matthews) and righted the ship.
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Ken Donahue was a great, not good coach. Remember, he was the mastermind behind the '85 Sugar Vols defense that rattled those NFL-laidened Hurricanes. I seriously doubt he was a coaching problem on the '88 team. In actuality the problem was the same as always with Johnny; he ran off good coaches because he was so abrasive to work for and was a blabbering idiot that scolded everyone.

I think Donahue was one of the best 3 coaches we've ever had here.

 
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Overall, I don't know. But the junk defense that he put in to combat Miami in the Sugar Bowl has to go down as one of the great gameplans of all time.
 
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Originally posted by RammerJammer84@Oct 24, 2005 10:29 PM
I am a Bama Fan.... I do agree that what Bama's booster did was totally wrong. I believe he was trying to help Bama gain an edge. However, my problem with Fulmer is that he was a secret witness. An example of a true man would be Spurrier when he wrote a letter to Mike Dubose. Spurrier was running a clean program and had nothing to lose by stepping out in the open and sayin "fix your problem." Fulmer on the other hand had to do things in a secretive way. We will never know what he was trying to hide or even if he was; however, he was doing the same thing the bama booster was doing.
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With all due respect, what the heck does that mean? Fulmer participated with 5 other SEC coaches in an NCAA investigation into alleged cheating by BAMA coaches and boosters.

Fulmer did not gain a competitive edge by turing in evil-doers; he removed an unfair advantage (and an illegal one at that).

They need to start yelling at Nutt, Donnan, Spurrier, and whoever else was on it.

The last thing that makes no sense is what exactly Fulmer did that was wrong - and why that means he should leave.
 
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Oct 24, 2005 9:50 PM
Fulmer IS the administration. :lol:

I am not for Fulmer leaving by any means. I just thought it was an interesting comparison.
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what has fulmer done since 98 that makes him a great or even good coach, freak? he has ruined and mis handled some of the best talent in the country. his active coach winning percentage is slowly deteriorating. and he cant win in one of the greatest football stadiums in the world.
 
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Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Oct 24, 2005 11:55 PM
what has fulmer done since 98 that makes him a great or even good coach, freak? he has ruined and mis handled some of the best talent in the country. his active coach winning percentage is slowly deteriorating. and he cant win in one of the greatest football stadiums in the world.
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He is in a bad slump right now, I won't argue with that. I think the staff did a good job in 2001 and last year considering they had two freshman qb's. Fulmer definitely needs to evaluate the offense and special teams play but I don't think you talk about getting rid of him. First of all, he is a Tennessee boy and he is one of the few coaches who can recruit in a state with no talent. I am not happy with the job he is doing right now but you can't go replacing coaches that win 80% of their games. It sets you up for failure. Look at Nebraska. That's just my opinion.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 24, 2005 11:39 PM
Overall, I don't know.  But the junk defense that he put in to combat Miami in the Sugar Bowl has to go down as one of the great gameplans of all time.
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next to the NC champ, that was my favorite season as a vol fan.
 
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I think there is no way we are getting rid of Fulmer. That would be a very stupid move. But he does need to cut ties with some of his offensive staff. OC, O-line coach, and Wide recivers coach just need to know that they should go looking for another job soon....
 
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OK I wont bring it up again... but I will bring 6-3 :) and 7-0; Bama also Beat UF which beat UT. The tide has turned....
 
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I think a wholesale purge of the coaching staff would be a horrible idea. It would be viewed by everybody as a sign of desperation and would kill recruiting.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 24, 2005 11:06 PM
I think a wholesale purge of the coaching staff would be a horrible idea.  It would be viewed by everybody as a sign of desperation and would kill recruiting.
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like recruiting is going to be great this year anyways???????
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 24, 2005 9:14 PM
I'll never forget the day that we got a lead and proceeded to handoff to William Howard 13 consecutive times!?!
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Yes, and it was a"W"!!!
 
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