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VolinArizona

VolinArizona

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Are you all serious? Or just insane?

I cannot believe the things I'm seeing posters say. Derek Dooley took over a program in disarray. The product under Phillip Fulmer had deteriorated, with an incredible amount of off the field problems. His replacement was a snake in the grass who left us with more problems than solutions. The attrition from 2008-2011 is astonishing. None of that is Derek Dooley's fault.

Then, in Year 2, he loses his best player before the season (Janzen Jackson), his best wide receiver in Game 3 (3rd play into SEC season), his best QB (7 quarters into SEC season) who happens to be the best QB here in 10 years, and his best LB hasn't played.

He has started, off the top of my head, more than 10 freshmen the last 2 years, and dozens and dozens of sophomores. None of that is Derek Dooley's fault.

With Tyler Bray AND Justin Hunter healthy all year, we're 6-3 at worst and looking at 9-3 going into a bowl game to take us to 10 wins. If you disagree with this, I cannot help you. You simply do not know what you're watching. None of that is Derek Dooley's fault.

Without the injury bug, you would be seeing the improvement in Year 2 that you hoped for. But he hasn't had the time to build the depth you need to deal with the injury bug. He simply hasn't had enough time to put together the recruiting classes. He is recruiting 4* talent while the on-field product is still ugly.

Is Derek Dooley the answer? I believe he is, but it remains to be seen. Tennessee fans, however, absolutely MUST give him time before you start turning up. Nobody should have been *****ing until Year 3 - which is still the year that will tell the story.

The team is fielding the worst upper class in 15 years or more. Those weren't Derek Dooley players. If you don't understand the time and work it takes to change peoples' behavior, then you don't understand what Dooley has had to do. The team didn't know how to win, didn't know discipline, didn't know how to trust their coaches. We would've been 9-3 this year if healthy. Keep all that in mind.

Because none of this is Derek Dooley's fault.
 
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I agree. Dooley deserves a chance; considering the injuries, he hasn't had one to show what he can do.
 
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Thanks PJ. I want to add to this: I am not directing this to all Vol fans, nor every single disbeliever of Dooley. Just the crazies.
 
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Frankly, for the reasons listed, the debate simply isn't worth joining at this point. Extreme stupidity on both sides, with almost no justification for the ingrained belief.
 
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I agree with everything you say, but admit it, it is hard to watch right now, especially that uninspired performance that we saw Saturday. Im still with you, and I still think we have had the worst of luck this season with injuries to an already lack of depth, but we all know, Im not even going to say it...i just hope the coaches and leaders, whoever they are, can step up right now and bring this team back together.
 
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That's right none of this is his fault, he has no effect of what happens on the filed at all. Nevermind this team has got worse, they have not scored in the second half in 5 straight games, and they have been outscored by almost 100 points in the second half this season. All the excuses are tiring.

Is Derek Dooley the answer? No, he is in over his head. His players are tired of being called out in public. He is a WAC coach.

By the way, Vandy is a 1 point favorite in Knoxville. How does that feel for all you Dooley apologist?
 
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VolinArizona said:
He doesn't have his two best players.

See what happens to the Colts when they ONE best player?
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This to me is the most irrational part of the whole argument against Dooley. Nobody with a clue predicted more than about 7 wins with Bray, Hunter and JJ playing. Now they're gone and people act surprised at the results.
 
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Anyone calling for Dooley's head this season is unreasonable. A lot of the BS comes from the Fulmer felchers who just want to relate our struggles to his exit.

The team doesn't look prepared, and are showing little improvement. I'll give you youth as 50% of that as a reason (not an excuse). The other 50% is coaching and preparation. I can't excuse it.
 
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Lexvol said:
Anyone calling for Dooley's head this season is unreasonable. A lot of the BS comes from the Fulmer felchers who just want to relate our struggles to his exit.

The team doesn't look prepared, and are showing little improvement. I'll give you youth as 50% of that as a reason (not an excuse). The other 50% is coaching and preparation. I can't excuse it.
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The most glaring issue is our lack of improvement in the offensive line. It's incredibly disappointing and the youth/injury excuse doesn't apply to them.
 
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GAVol said:
This to me is the most irrational part of the whole argument against Dooley. Nobody with a clue predicted more than about 7 wins with Bray, Hunter and JJ playing. Now they're gone and people act surprised at the results.
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Tennessee fans are knowledgeable enough to know that 7 wins was a reasonable expectation. It isn't the losses, it is the manner of the losses.

Now, I can agree that Arkansas was probably the worst matchup for the Vols all year. It would have been a great year to draw MSU.

Match ups are becoming more and more important due to parity.
 
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Lexvol said:
Anyone calling for Dooley's head this season is unreasonable. A lot of the BS comes from the Fulmer felchers who just want to relate our struggles to his exit.

The team doesn't look prepared, and are showing little improvement. I'll give you youth as 50% of that as a reason (not an excuse). The other 50% is coaching and preparation. I can't excuse it.
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The defensive performance in the 2nd half against Arkansas was about the most embarrassing thing I've seen the past two years. I can explain away depth problems, being outmanned etc, but it's hard to defend poor tackling, bad angles and generally looking like a bad high school defense. It was a bad matchup, but there were some things happening on defense that were flat out inexcusable.
 
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"By the way, Vandy is a 1 point favorite in Knoxville. How does that feel for all you Dooley apologist?[/QUOTE]"

So, they are saying that Vandy's seniors vs. Tennessee's freshmen ... pretty much a toss-up. :loco:
 
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LawVol13 said:
The most glaring issue is our lack of improvement in the offensive line. It's incredibly disappointing and the youth/injury excuse doesn't apply to them.
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Hiestand should be evaluated. We need to call Mitch Browning or James Cregg and throw many dollars in their direction. I wouldn't be opposed to calling Eddie Gran to coach our RBs either. Hell, make him a co-offensive coordinator. RBs are half of the problem.
 
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Lexvol said:
Hiestand should be evaluated. We need to call Mitch Browning or James Cregg and throw many dollars in their direction. I wouldn't be opposed to calling Eddie Gran to coach our RBs either. Hell, make him a co-offensive coordinator. RBs are half of the problem.
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I agree. I fail to see a circumstance that would justify keeping hiestand. I just don't see it.
 
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GAVol said:
The defensive performance in the 2nd half against Arkansas was about the most embarrassing thing I've seen the past two years. I can explain away depth problems, being outmanned etc, but it's hard to defend poor tackling, bad angles and generally looking like a bad high school defense. It was a bad matchup, but there were some things happening on defense that were flat out inexcusable.
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I am a big Wilcox guy...but the missed assignments make-a me crazy.
 
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Lexvol said:
Hiestand should be evaluated. We need to call Mitch Browning or James Cregg and throw many dollars in their direction. I wouldn't be opposed to calling Eddie Gran to coach our RBs either. Hell, make him a co-offensive coordinator. RBs are half of the problem.
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Definitely need to go back to square 1 with the running game and evaluate everything they are doing.
 
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Lexvol said:
I am a big Wilcox guy...but the missed assignments make-a me crazy.
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What drives me insane is continuously watching RBs going out into the flat, catching the ball and going 10 yards before anybody gets there to challenge them. How many times can guys get caught up in the wash, looking inside before they have to just start beating them with a bat on the sideline?
 
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GAVol said:
What drives me insane is continuously watching RBs going out into the flat, catching the ball and going 10 yards before anybody gets there to challenge them. How many times can LBs get caught up in the wash inside before they have to just start beating them with a bat on the sideline?
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I agree. This makes me want to throw the tv out the window.
 
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GAVol said:
What drives me insane is continuously watching RBs going out into the flat, catching the ball and going 10 yards before anybody gets there to challenge them. How many times can guys get caught up in the wash inside before they have to just start beating them with a bat on the sideline?
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FWIW that is really why AJ has to move to the middle. Maggit and Vereen are really the only two backers that we have with the natural ability to cover the flats. Austin can do it, but only if he reads it immediately.
 
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Lexvol said:
FWIW that is really why AJ has to move to the middle. Maggit and Vereen are really the only two backers that we have with the natural ability to cover the flats. Austin can do it, but only if he reads it immediately.
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Exactly the problem. AJ just doesn't have the physical ability to run out there unless he IDs it immediately. Any type of playaction, counter boot action, QB looking him off, etc is a potential killer for us.
 
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