Injuries, Defense, Shoop...83rd total D, 95th run D

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Even with the recent rash of injuries, our D numbers are pretty shocking.

Going back to before injuries decimated us, any thoughts as to why we've struggled on D early in games? Especially against the run?

Does Shoop's scheme not mesh with some of the position coaches he inherited?(DBs act like they've never been told to turn around)

Obviously Shoop is regarded as a mastermind for a reason. Any thoughts why were having so many issues?
 
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We are trying to convince ourselves he is a defensive genius..the truth is he is far from it. Take away the second half of Florida and let's call it like it is he is average at best.
 
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It's year one of the kids being in and learning his system. His defense has been crippled by injuries. I'm convinced he's limited in what he can do at this point. I doubt we're seeing his defense running at its full potential.
 
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The DB's struggle big time. They never, I mean never look back for the ball. Recruiting failures are the biggest issue with LB's. The D-line is the strongest position group on the team
 
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MurphyVol said:
Does Shoop's scheme not mesh with some of the position coaches he inherited?(DBs act like they've never been told to turn around)
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Unless you want to play Cover 4 on every down, I don't see what scheme can do for DBs that are terrible over the top.
 
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This has to be a hoax thread. If the premises are not true the conclusion is probably not true. Just one of a myriad of premise busting fact is as follows: General consensus Colton Jumper was a total bust at LB at the SEC level. Somehow Shoop has schemed, BECAUSE HE FREAKIN' HAD TO, Jumper into not only performing but performing very well at the SEC level against UF, UGA, and A&M. Let that sink in.
 
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There is still work to be done. No arguing that.
Tennessee needs to load up on LBs so this doesent happen again.
The back end will eventually work itself out.
 
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Also, let's not forget that we spotted A&M almost an entire game worth of possessions.

Let's not forget we held Florida scoreless for basically 3/4 of a game.

And how many 3 and outs did the D have yesterday? Hint: it was a bunch.
 
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It's his first year and it's really a mixed bag.. He's been good at making adjustments. Overall it hasn't been as good as we had hoped.
 
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Thunndarr said:
Also, let's not forget that we spotted A&M almost an entire game worth of possessions.

Let's not forget we held Florida scoreless for basically 3/4 of a game.

And how many 3 and outs did the D have yesterday? Hint: it was a bunch.
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7 turnovers and how many of them gave Shoop's D a short field to defend? Im not going back to watch, but ANY turnover is a potential swing, I know for certain in the second half we experienced one turnover that was a total 14 swing for A&M that would have tied the game.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
We are trying to convince ourselves he is a defensive genius..the truth is he is far from it. Take away the second half of Florida and let's call it like it is he is average at best.
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You take 3 of your best defense players out of anyones system and it will hurt you. You do know we have our 2 best LBs out which hurts the run game against us. JRM, Kirkland jr. and our best cover guy Sutton.
 
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All in all, we still run a quicker offense than most. For better or worse, that means your opposition will have the ball more often than normal.
They have the ball more, they rack up more plays and more yards.
Yes that makes stats look bad. But yet, we were 5-0, and one non-turnover away from being 6-0. So it's working and that's all that matters.

Yes op, by giving them the ball more, other teams rack up more yards. But so do we.

Edit:this is not a stand alone answer, just adding to what others have said.
 
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Cartervol said:
It's his first year and it's really a mixed bag.. He's been good at making adjustments. Overall it hasn't been as good as we had hoped.
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I am surprised that the defense has been able to play as well as it has. The injuries have been at key positions which are where we have the least talent and depth. The defense did not lose the game yesterday. Seven turnovers cast we that game. Turnovers coat us two early TDs and the dropped balls killed drives all day. A turnover in OT is instant an instant loss. Without the turnovers, we win by 14 to 21 points.
 
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why do our corners play up close,bump and run,yet they never hit the recivers,they just stand there and the recivers blow by them leaveing our corners in the dust.
makes no sense to me.why not play back 5-7 yards so they don't get beat so much.
 
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Here's the odd thing to me...when our D players are interviewed and are specifically asked about halftime adjustments (uf game for example), they deny any adjustments were made. They say they just played better and executed the D calls. Why do you guys think they downplay the changes and credit the execution?
 
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