I'm thinking the Brumbaugh firing goes way deeper than philosophical differences.

[OrangeBeachVol]

Maybe Brumbaugh differences was his questioning of Pruitt's dysfunctional running of the program and all the other flaws we have discussed on here: no backup qb's ready, pathetic play calling etc and Pruitt didn't like being challenged. Call me Capt Obvious but I am truly concerned there are serious issues going on between coaches and players. Hope I'm just pissed today but this is about to blowup big time.

 

[sonofUT62]

Maybe Brumbaugh differences was his questioning of Pruitt's dysfunctional running of the program and all the other flaws we have discussed on here: no backup qb's ready, pathetic play calling etc and Pruitt didn't like being challenged. Call me Capt Obvious but I am truly concerned there are serious issues going on between coaches and players. Hope I'm just pissed today but this is about to blowup big time.

Brumbaughs next job will tell the story. If he ends up a 3 year intern at Bama then we will know he was the problem. The fact that he was good enough for Stoops and Tucker who are both highly respected D coaches tells me that the problem is with Pruitt.

 

[DonDiego]

Maybe Brumbaugh differences was his questioning of Pruitt's dysfunctional running of the program and all the other flaws we have discussed on here: no backup qb's ready, pathetic play calling etc and Pruitt didn't like being challenged. Call me Capt Obvious but I am truly concerned there are serious issues going on between coaches and players. Hope I'm just pissed today but this is about to blowup big time.

...or, it could be just pretty much like the explanation that was given in some detail. Looks like a lot of conjecture.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

I wish someone on staff would kick Pruitts ass

 

[EZE]

Maybe Brumbaugh differences was his questioning of Pruitt's dysfunctional running of the program and all the other flaws we have discussed on here: no backup qb's ready, pathetic play calling etc and Pruitt didn't like being challenged. Call me Capt Obvious but I am truly concerned there are serious issues going on between coaches and players. Hope I'm just pissed today but this is about to blowup big time.

My read is that Pruitt is a micro manager who constantly sticks his nose where it doesn’t belong. Nothing will build up resentment in the ranks faster than that.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

I wish someone on staff would kick Pruitts ass

This allegedly happened at Georgia, when Pruitt went after Richt in a meeting. The story goes that Thomas Brown who was an assistant, and played for Richt, stepped up before Pruitt got to him and put Pruitt down. I don't know whether that's true or not but there was a lot of smoke and by all accounts it seems Pruitt did not get along with Richt, which is a bit of a red flag in and of itself in that he is the only person I've ever heard of who didn't. I hate Georgia as a program but by all accounts Mark Richt is one of the gentlemen and class acts of the game.

 

[Hacksaw]

I think OP is onto something. The more I see, the more I get the sense that there is a serious fundamental defect somewhere in the team dynamic. And I'm saying that in as broad a way as possible, because I obviously have no way of knowing what it might be. But this team plays with no fire. With the possible exception of To'oto'o (who I think has also regressed from last season), the whole team looks like they're on a mild sedative.

 

[m1al]

Just because Pruitt let Brumbaugh go, doesn't mean he was a bad coach. If there was a serious difference in methodology, then one has to go. It wasn't going to be Pruitt. I think there's way too much being read into the decision to let him go.

 

[orangerush]

There’s no indication Pruitt has any idea what he’s doing. Philosophical differences, you vet that out before you hire him. Just backa$$ stupid.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Just because Pruitt let Brumbaugh go, doesn't mean he was a bad coach. If there was a serious difference in methodology, then one has to go. It wasn't going to be Pruitt. I think there's way too much being read into the decision to let him go.

At a minimum, the interview process wasn't what it needed to be if it didn't identify this serious difference in methodology.

 

[sonofUT62]

Just because Pruitt let Brumbaugh go, doesn't mean he was a bad coach. If there was a serious difference in methodology, then one has to go. It wasn't going to be Pruitt. I think there's way too much being read into the decision to let him go.

Why weren’t the philosophies discussed and agreed upon before 1.6 large was on the table? That’s what makes him a bad coach.

 

[m1al]

Why weren’t the philosophies discussed and agreed upon before 1.6 large was on the table? That’s what makes him a bad coach.

I don't know. I keep hearing he was Ansley's guy and Pruitt went with it.. If true, Pruitt ef'd up not doing his due diligence on the hire...

 

[landscapingvol]

Just because Pruitt let Brumbaugh go, doesn't mean he was a bad coach. If there was a serious difference in methodology, then one has to go. It wasn't going to be Pruitt. I think there's way too much being read into the decision to let him go.

Well if you have IQ above a ham sandwich then of course they would disagree with how he is running the program

 

[vol94]

There was a recent article where Pruitt said he did not interview Brumbaugh. He was the coach Pruitt wanted so Pruitt offered him the job.

 

[m1al]

Well if you have IQ above a ham sandwich then of course they would disagree with how he is running the program

Easy bub, it as not meant to be a defense of Pruitt, merely one explanation of why a decision like that might be made.

As far as "how he's running the team", I was talking about a disagreement on position specific philosophy, not overall defensive or team philosophy.

 

[landscapingvol]

Easy bub, it as not meant to be a defense of Pruitt, merely one explanation of why a decision like that might be made.

As far as "how he's running the team", I was talking about a disagreement on position specific philosophy, not overall defensive or team philosophy.

Suck it up Nancy

 

[JohnWardForever]

I think OP is onto something. The more I see, the more I get the sense that there is a serious fundamental defect somewhere in the team dynamic. And I'm saying that in as broad a way as possible, because I obviously have no way of knowing what it might be. But this team plays with no fire. With the possible exception of To'oto'o (who I think has also regressed from last season), the whole team looks like they're on a mild sedative.

Something is wrong . That's so damn obvious. Pisses me off that we are having to live through ANOTHER Year of F-up. Well one way to look at it----KARMA'S A %ITCH. Pruitt's Decisions are coming back to haunt.

 

[DiderotsGhost]

I don't know what happened with Brumbaugh. I'm willing to give Pruitt somewhat of a pass on it. It's not like Johnny Majors didn't fire a lot of coaches on the way to rebuilding Tennessee.

More concerned about the idea that Pruitt is a micro-manager and he's not letting the offensive coaches do their jobs. Either Chaney forgot how to be an OC or Pruitt is handcuffing him so much, that we're just stuck with crap offenses.

 

[m1al]

Suck it up Nancy

What is your problem?

My original post was making the point that just because Brumbaugh was let go doesn't mean BRUMBAUGH is a bad coach. Decisions like that get made all the time for a variety of reasons. In this case, most likely, it wasn't Brumbaugh's fault.. Which would ultimately make it Pruitt's fault....

I'm sorry you obviously misunderstood what I said. Maybe Tennessee sucking is getting the best of you and you need to take a break...

 

[ShoalCreekVol]

My read is that Pruitt is a micro manager who constantly sticks his nose where it doesn’t belong. Nothing will build up resentment in the ranks faster than that.

Made worse by the apparent fact that his only leadership or motivational tactic is to scream and threaten. Downward pressure creates fear, but does not create success.

 

[Visiting Dawg]

This allegedly happened at Georgia, when Pruitt went after Richt in a meeting. The story goes that Thomas Brown who was an assistant, and played for Richt, stepped up before Pruitt got to him and put Pruitt down. I don't know whether that's true or not but there was a lot of smoke and by all accounts it seems Pruitt did not get along with Richt, which is a bit of a red flag in and of itself in that he is the only person I've ever heard of who didn't. I hate Georgia as a program but by all accounts Mark Richt is one of the gentlemen and class acts of the game.

Actually sounds more like the Mike Ekeler incident when he was at UGA. The secondary wasn't playing well and the front 7was playing pretty well. Pruitt went after Ekeler (either OLBs or DE coach) and Ekeler had to be restrained.

 

[tbh]

I don't know what happened with Brumbaugh. I'm willing to give Pruitt somewhat of a pass on it. It's not like Johnny Majors didn't fire a lot of coaches on the way to rebuilding Tennessee.

More concerned about the idea that Pruitt is a micro-manager and he's not letting the offensive coaches do their jobs. Either Chaney forgot how to be an OC or Pruitt is handcuffing him so much, that we're just stuck with crap offenses.

Yep. It's inevitable that as coaches are hired on during a rebuild, a personality or coaching style might not mesh with the program's goals and idiosyncrasies from time to time. In that case, part ways and move on.

However, if several more position coaches end up going the way of Brumbaugh and in similar fashion this season (during or shortly after games), then I'd start to think it might be a reflection of deeper staff culture (i.e. Pruitt's micromanagement) and less about non-performance or run-of-the-mill philosophical differences.

 

[m1al]

Yep. It's inevitable that as coaches are hired on during a rebuild, a personality or coaching style might not mesh with the program's goals and idiosyncrasies from time to time. In that case, part ways and move on.

However, if several more position coaches end up going the way of Brumbaugh and in similar fashion this season (during or shortly after games), then I'd start to think it might be a reflection of deeper staff culture (i.e. Pruitt's micromanagement) and less about non-performance or run-of-the-mill philosophical differences.

Get ready to see some staff 'movement' then because Pruitt's not going anywhere.

 

[tbh]

Get ready to see some staff 'movement' then because Pruitt's not going anywhere.

Yes, there's little doubt about that. I'd be curious where the buyout amounts for the staff stand...I'd imagine some of them have some chunky buyouts depending on how far up the line the forced exodus occurs.

 

[GVol1966]

Just because Pruitt let Brumbaugh go, doesn't mean he was a bad coach. If there was a serious difference in methodology, then one has to go. It wasn't going to be Pruitt. I think there's way too much being read into the decision to let him go.

Right, but if there was a serious difference in methodology then he should of never been hired.
What the heck did they talk about in the interview?