I'm no coach, but...

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I will readily admit that I have never coached a college football game, never recruited players or drawn up offensive or defensive plays. But I just don't understand how we cannot have quality players on the bench ready to go in and do the right thing for the team. Why can't we have coaches drawing up plays that help us score point?

As many posters have said in the past, we have faced some really tough teams but we seem to beat ourselves most of all. The only thing we are known for are 3 and outs. I am just sick and tired of seeing us try run plays that everyone knows we are going to run. Seems like SNL on Saturdays, just a bit earlier in the day.
 
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I will readily admit that I have never coached a college football game, never recruited players or drawn up offensive or defensive plays. But I just don't understand how we cannot have quality players on the bench ready to go in and do the right thing for the team. Why can't we have coaches drawing up plays that help us score point?

As many posters have said in the past, we have faced some really tough teams but we seem to beat ourselves most of all. The only thing we are known for are 3 and outs. I am just sick and tired of seeing us try run plays that everyone knows we are going to run. Seems like SNL on Saturdays, just a bit earlier in the day.

We are in the middle of a horribly failed experiment and that's the worst part, we're in the middle and not at the end yet.
 
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I said it then and I’ll say it now, we should have hired Blackburn instead of Currie as AD in the first place.

I think the failure right now is Fulmer and he did the same thing with Warlick that it appears he is doing with Pruitt. We still have a couple of years left to verify that, but him not making a run at Freeze at this time could be his undoing, especially if this team winds up 2-8.
 
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I will readily admit that I have never coached a college football game, never recruited players or drawn up offensive or defensive plays. But I just don't understand how we cannot have quality players on the bench ready to go in and do the right thing for the team. Why can't we have coaches drawing up plays that help us score point?

As many posters have said in the past, we have faced some really tough teams but we seem to beat ourselves most of all. The only thing we are known for are 3 and outs. I am just sick and tired of seeing us try run plays that everyone knows we are going to run. Seems like SNL on Saturdays, just a bit earlier in the day.

Jeremy Pruitt essentially wants us to be Alabama lite from 2011. He hired coordinators that will implement these wishes. On the defensive side, he hires coordinators with no coordinating experience who will run Jeremy's stuff without speaking up. On the offensive side, he wants his coaches to play it close to the vest. They recruit this way. Pruitt likes big corners and big LBs just like Bama had back in the day.

Here's the issue:

The game is played different than a few years ago. Speed at corner and LB is more important than size. It's one thing trying to run this scheme with better athletes than the opposition; it's another to run with similar athletes.

We don't have enough speed. We can't play in space offensively and can't make plays in space defensively. We are just a step slower than most of our competition.

Team's have seen Bama's defense for over a decade now. There's a blueprint on there on how to attack it. It's hard to attack since Bama had better players but when a team with less talent runs the defense, it's attackable. Slants and quick throws (see Ole Miss when they had success) have always been successful. You can do stuff like that when you have 3 NFL WRs and a NFL TE. We just don't have that.
 
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Jeremy Pruitt essentially wants us to be Alabama lite from 2011. He hired coordinators that will implement these wishes. On the defensive side, he hires coordinators with no coordinating experience who will run Jeremy's stuff without speaking up. On the offensive side, he wants his coaches to play it close to the vest. They recruit this way. Pruitt likes big corners and big LBs just like Bama had back in the day.

Here's the issue:

The game is played different than a few years ago. Speed at corner and LB is more important than size. It's one thing trying to run this scheme with better athletes than the opposition; it's another to run with similar athletes.

We don't have enough speed. We can't play in space offensively and can't make plays in space defensively. We are just a step slower than most of our competition.

Team's have seen Bama's defense for over a decade now. There's a blueprint on there on how to attack it. It's hard to attack since Bama had better players but when a team with less talent runs the defense, it's attackable. Slants and quick throws (see Ole Miss when they had success) have always been successful. You can do stuff like that when you have 3 NFL WRs and a NFL TE. We just don't have that.


This^^^^. Been saying this since last year when Chaney came in. He's just mimicking Saban step for step. At this pace, we'll get a dynamic offensive coordinator in 2024.
 
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What you see in UT football right now is a combination of the good old boy system, the inability to play people to their strengths and put them in a position to succeed, and good old fashioned Alabama toothless knuckled dragging brainlessness.
 
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A 400 yd offense is just barely making the cut in today’s game. The college (an pro to some degree) game does not depend on strong running games anymore. Notice RBs are not drafted like they used to be. RBs are just another receiver in today’s game. You need QBs that pass for over 300 per game at a minimum. You need Oline that pass blocks first, RBs with great hands and can assist pass blocking, WRs with burning speed. Dline needs strength and quicknees more than weight, and speed all over the LBers and DBs. Saban can coach and you can see his roster has made a complete over haul in just a few years. As the poster above stated, Pruitt is building a team that became outdated about 4 or 5 years ago.
 
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A 400 yd offense is just barely making the cut in today’s game. The college (an pro to some degree) game does not depend on strong running games anymore. Notice RBs are not drafted like they used to be. RBs are just another receiver in today’s game. You need QBs that pass for over 300 per game at a minimum. You need Oline that pass blocks first, RBs with great hands and can assist pass blocking, WRs with burning speed. Dline needs strength and quicknees more than weight, and speed all over the LBers and DBs. Saban can coach and you can see his roster has made a complete over haul in just a few years. As the poster above stated, Pruitt is building a team that became outdated about 4 or 5 years ago.

I said this in a separate thread and got roasted for saying Pruitt was trying to “middle 2000s bama” style this team.
 
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I said this in a separate thread and got roasted for saying Pruitt was trying to “middle 2000s bama” style this team.

This was my post after the Georgia game.

“The long term problem is this exact coaching style and way of thinking, he is basically taking the Mid 2000s Alabama "blueprint" that same blueprint Harbaugh is trying to also run in Michigan and Kirby is currently running at UGA. Guess what...Those teams CAN NOT get over the hump with one dimensional QBs. The days of the average drop back vanilla mistake free qb are gone, Saban himself had to re-invent his style and recruiting after losing games to Ole miss (chad kelly) Texas AM (Johnny football) and other "play maker/ dual threat" style QBs. Pruitt says JG gives us the best opportunity to win games according to HIS coaching style, unfortunately that is not going to work in the SEC and i don't understand for the life of me why these old-school coaches refuse to recruit "dual threat" type QBs and give them a chance in pro style offenses. Unless you have a Heisman candidate RBs and a NFL caliber defense you will NEVER get over the hump of a SEC title let alone make a college football playoff.”
 
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I will readily admit that I have never coached a college football game, never recruited players or drawn up offensive or defensive plays. But I just don't understand how we cannot have quality players on the bench ready to go in and do the right thing for the team. Why can't we have coaches drawing up plays that help us score point?

As many posters have said in the past, we have faced some really tough teams but we seem to beat ourselves most of all. The only thing we are known for are 3 and outs. I am just sick and tired of seeing us try run plays that everyone knows we are going to run. Seems like SNL on Saturdays, just a bit earlier in the day.
You can't draw up plays for a QB who either chooses to dump down, or to throw late over the middle.
 
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I said this in a separate thread and got roasted for saying Pruitt was trying to “middle 2000s bama” style this team.

Don't let the roasting bother you.

I've been roasted for the past 3 years for saying the same things that are being said by the same posters who roasted me...
 
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This was my post after the Georgia game.

“The long term problem is this exact coaching style and way of thinking, he is basically taking the Mid 2000s Alabama "blueprint" that same blueprint Harbaugh is trying to also run in Michigan and Kirby is currently running at UGA. Guess what...Those teams CAN NOT get over the hump with one dimensional QBs. The days of the average drop back vanilla mistake free qb are gone, Saban himself had to re-invent his style and recruiting after losing games to Ole miss (chad kelly) Texas AM (Johnny football) and other "play maker/ dual threat" style QBs. Pruitt says JG gives us the best opportunity to win games according to HIS coaching style, unfortunately that is not going to work in the SEC and i don't understand for the life of me why these old-school coaches refuse to recruit "dual threat" type QBs and give them a chance in pro style offenses. Unless you have a Heisman candidate RBs and a NFL caliber defense you will NEVER get over the hump of a SEC title let alone make a college football playoff.”

Are you're saying we need to run the RPO style offense, and go no huddle, like Ole Miss, with a dual threat QB(Salter 21'). If so, HB just needs to hit the transfer portal.
Not so fast!
Take a good look at Bama's QB. He is no dual threat. Neither is Kyle Trask. They seem to be pretty darn successful.
Also, if you take a good look around the league, the successful QB's are passers first. They are athletic enough to get yardage and move the chains. But they are hurting defenses with their arms. I mean, holy crap Trask threw for 6 TD's!!
 
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Are you're saying we need to run the RPO style offense, and go no huddle, like Ole Miss, with a dual threat QB(Salter 21'). If so, HB just needs to hit the transfer portal.
Not so fast!
Take a good look at Bama's QB. He is no dual threat. Neither is Kyle Trask. They seem to be pretty darn successful.
Also, if you take a good look around the league, the successful QB's are passers first. They are athletic enough to get yardage and move the chains. But they are hurting defenses with their arms. I mean, holy crap Trask threw for 6 TD's!!

I’m saying you need an alpha game changer at qb..a clear team leader ...not a game manager with no it factor , we want a guy who is gunna put the team on my back and win. Those qbs don’t have to run they have to dominate.
 
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I said it then and I’ll say it now, we should have hired Blackburn instead of Currie as AD in the first place.

I think the failure right now is Fulmer and he did the same thing with Warlick that it appears he is doing with Pruitt. We still have a couple of years left to verify that, but him not making a run at Freeze at this time could be his undoing, especially if this team winds up 2-8.
You say scary stuff.. 2-8 does not seem impossible right about now.
 
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I said it then and I’ll say it now, we should have hired Blackburn instead of Currie as AD in the first place.

I think the failure right now is Fulmer and he did the same thing with Warlick that it appears he is doing with Pruitt. We still have a couple of years left to verify that, but him not making a run at Freeze at this time could be his undoing, especially if this team winds up 2-8.
Look we are either going to end up 2 -8 or 3 -7. Most of the other teams in the conference have improved as the season has progressed. We literally came up with a game plan to run the clock down to the last second before snapping it every play - to shorten the game against Arkansas. Does it really matter if we are 3 -7 versus 2 -8 and somehow squeak out a victory over an improving Vandy - and get beat down by Auburn, A and M, and Florida. I don't see us within 20 points of any of those 3. I am afraid we are screwed again.
 
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I will readily admit that I have never coached a college football game, never recruited players or drawn up offensive or defensive plays. But I just don't understand how we cannot have quality players on the bench ready to go in and do the right thing for the team. Why can't we have coaches drawing up plays that help us score point?

As many posters have said in the past, we have faced some really tough teams but we seem to beat ourselves most of all. The only thing we are known for are 3 and outs. I am just sick and tired of seeing us try run plays that everyone knows we are going to run. Seems like SNL on Saturdays, just a bit earlier in the day.

You're no coach ? We have all seen what Pruitt can do and he is no head coach either
 
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I will readily admit that I have never coached a college football game, never recruited players or drawn up offensive or defensive plays. But I just don't understand how we cannot have quality players on the bench ready to go in and do the right thing for the team. Why can't we have coaches drawing up plays that help us score point?

As many posters have said in the past, we have faced some really tough teams but we seem to beat ourselves most of all. The only thing we are known for are 3 and outs. I am just sick and tired of seeing us try run plays that everyone knows we are going to run. Seems like SNL on Saturdays, just a bit earlier in the day.

People like to assume that college coaches are infinitely more capable than the average high school coach which is simply not true and many are less capable. We have one of those less capable ones running our entire program. Look at Pruitt’s resume: high school coach for 8 seasons but only three of those as a coordinator, zero as a head coach; 8 seasons as a college coach but five as a coordinator; of Pruitt’s five years as a college coordinator only one wasn’t under a defensive minded head coach. He has spent a grand total of one season running a defense as a coordinator and zero as a head coach prior to coaching at UT. Many high school head coaches have been doing it for 20 years or more with differing levels of talent and assistants. Pruitt was a horrendous hire who is in over his head
 
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People like to assume that college coaches are infinitely more capable than the average high school coach which is simply not true and many are less capable. We have one of those less capable ones running our entire program. Look at Pruitt’s resume: high school coach for 8 seasons but only three of those as a coordinator, zero as a head coach; 8 seasons as a college coach but five as a coordinator; of Pruitt’s five years as a college coordinator only one wasn’t under a defensive minded head coach. He has spent a grand total of one season running a defense as a coordinator and zero as a head coach prior to coaching at UT. Many high school head coaches have been doing it for 20 years or more with differing levels of talent and assistants. Pruitt was a horrendous hire who is in over his head
It has been said that most game innovations come from the high school ranks.
 
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.... I am just sick and tired of seeing us try run plays that everyone knows we are going to run. ....
What really blows is other teams can run those plays (which I imagine our D sees in every practice) against us and hammers us like a bent nail.
 
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Just put Bailey or Mauer in,toss it around to speedy receivers,and let 'er go.Tell Chaney, Bray is the qb and fire it up.Nothing left to really lose this free year.
 
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