IF, we win out...where do we finish and where do we start next year in the polls?

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I say we finish somewhere around 5-7 and then we start next year in the top 10...in the 7-10 range
 
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It depends on whom we play in the Sugar Bowl, but I think a 5-7 finish would be a reasonable expectation. As for preseason - who knows? Maybe a top ten team, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Vols projected to finish second or third in the SEC east, behind Florida and perhaps Georgia. (Which is not quite fair, but I think Florida will get a lot of preseason love and perhaps Georgia, too if they win big in a BCS bowl.)
 
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NOLAVolfan said:
It depends on whom we play in the Sugar Bowl, but I think a 5-7 finish would be a reasonable expectation. As for preseason - who knows? Maybe a top ten team, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Vols projected to finish second or third in the SEC east, behind Florida and perhaps Georgia.
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The East will definitely be stacked next year...

Well...I say stacked...but maybe the better word is probably top-heavy...

I wouldn't be surprised to see all 3 of us in the top 10...

I don't think there's any doubt UF will be #1 pre-season...

With all they have back and the media's love affair with Tebow...there's no doubt they'll be #1

I've said it on here before but...if we figure out who our QB is and get him playing well I see a bright future for us...the table is set everywhere else...IMO
 
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Obviously a top ten finish is likely if you win the SECCG and a BCS bowl game. But, there's no point in speculating on exactly where you would end up. For one thing, it depends a lot on how about 15 other teams do.

As to next year, and assuming that nothing major changes for UF, I can say without hesitation that they ought to be, and will be, preseason concensus #1. USC will be #2. After that, its a scrum.

UT next year, without Ainge, probably looking at around 15th.
 
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I don't know, I could see USC at #1. Media loves them too... or OSU.

If we win out, I think between #6 - #9, depending on the "quality" (i.e. margin) of our wins. I think the blowout losses will prevent us from being top 5. Also, a win over Hawaii would be somewhat discounted in my opinion b/c they are from a non BCS conference.

I think we'll start the 2008 season in the same place we finish this year.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Obviously a top ten finish is likely if you win the SECCG and a BCS bowl game. But, there's no point in speculating on exactly where you would end up. For one thing, it depends a lot on how about 15 other teams do.

As to next year, and assuming that nothing major changes for UF, I can say without hesitation that they ought to be, and will be, preseason concensus #1. USC will be #2. After that, its a scrum.

UT next year, without Ainge, probably looking at around 15th.
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Why would a 3 loss Florida team (heck, maybe 4 loss Florida team) be concensus #1? Thats crazy, unless Lundquist and Danielson are voting.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Obviously a top ten finish is likely if you win the SECCG and a BCS bowl game. But, there's no point in speculating on exactly where you would end up. For one thing, it depends a lot on how about 15 other teams do.

As to next year, and assuming that nothing major changes for UF, I can say without hesitation that they ought to be, and will be, preseason concensus #1. USC will be #2. After that, its a scrum.

UT next year, without Ainge, probably looking at around 15th.
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15th ? Wow..Is that if we win vs LSU and our bowl game LG?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Obviously a top ten finish is likely if you win the SECCG and a BCS bowl game. But, there's no point in speculating on exactly where you would end up. For one thing, it depends a lot on how about 15 other teams do.

As to next year, and assuming that nothing major changes for UF, I can say without hesitation that they ought to be, and will be, preseason concensus #1. USC will be #2. After that, its a scrum.

UT next year, without Ainge, probably looking at around 15th.
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Winning out is looking better by the minute...with LSU on the rocks (injuries, coaching) and a likely matchup with Hawaii if(when) we win the SECCG...

In that case a 5-7 finish would occur by default because of all the teams ahead of us that will be playing each other in the next couple of games

As far as next year...I honestly haven't considered UF and UGA's role in that...

When you think about it...the media will be loving those two teams so they will most likely look at UT and think "Well they play the unstoppable monsters that are UF and UGA...they don't stand a chance"

So...on 2nd thought....top 15 is probably more like it
 
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General Jack said:
Why would a 3 loss Florida team (heck, maybe 4 loss Florida team) be concensus #1? Thats crazy, unless Lundquist and Danielson are voting.
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One word....Tebow....

You also have to admit that they have an awful lot of talent back...
 
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General Jack said:
Why would a 3 loss Florida team (heck, maybe 4 loss Florida team) be concensus #1? Thats crazy, unless Lundquist and Danielson are voting.
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Florida lost its three games by a total of 19 points. With everyone back and yes the love affair the media have with Tebow, easily #1. It doesn't matter if its fair. It doesn't matter at all, really. Florida next year will be aiming for one thing only, and that's the #1 spot at the end of the year, not the beginning.


myrobbins7 said:
15th ? Wow..Is that if we win vs LSU and our bowl game LG?
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Well, think about it. Let's say you do win out and end up somewhere around 7 or 8, which seems to be the concensus of those on here. You lose your senior QB and you would be projected to lose to UF so with the QB gone most would figure you for 3 losses at least. Not saying its fair or accurate, just putting myself in shoes of a voter.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida lost its three games by a total of 19 points. With everyone back and yes the love affair the media have with Tebow, easily #1. It doesn't matter if its fair. It doesn't matter at all, really. Florida next year will be aiming for one thing only, and that's the #1 spot at the end of the year, not the beginning.




Well, think about it. Let's say you do win out and end up somewhere around 7 or 8, which seems to be the concensus of those on here. You lose your senior QB and you would be projected to lose to UF so with the QB gone most would figure you for 3 losses at least. Not saying its fair or accurate, just putting myself in shoes of a voter.
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Ok, i see your point. it sucks :p, but i see what you are saying..
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida lost its three games by a total of 19 points. With everyone back and yes the love affair the media have with Tebow, easily #1. It doesn't matter if its fair. It doesn't matter at all, really. Florida next year will be aiming for one thing only, and that's the #1 spot at the end of the year, not the beginning.




Well, think about it. Let's say you do win out and end up somewhere around 7 or 8, which seems to be the concensus of those on here. You lose your senior QB and you would be projected to lose to UF so with the QB gone most would figure you for 3 losses at least. Not saying its fair or accurate, just putting myself in shoes of a voter.
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If UT wins out, and a big IF they win in Pasadena next season and go into the UF game at Knoxville lets say somewhere around a 8 or 10 ranking and UF a 1-2 ranking can you imagine the hype that the media will build around that? A 39 point thrashing the year before will have the Vols looking for revenge, even IF UF is picked to win at Knoxville next year it won't be by much. But, lets talk about that in June-August of 08....We got a Championship game to get pumped up for now!
 
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Florida will be the favorite to win the East. UT probably will be projected 2nd or 3rd behind Georgia. I would say around 15. Georgia and Florida have returning key players (QB).
 
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Quite frankly, I think there should be no polls until after the first weekend in October, when you can really gauge where a team is, but that doesn't sell magazines or newspapers in the summer, and what will we have to argue about in August if they stopped doing them?
 
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I'm hoping next year for the Gators will be everything 2005 proved to be for us--with all the preseason hype as a national contender thrown in and the pleasure of the 5-6 season sinking in slowly.

That's contrary to all the data, but what else could a Vols fan wish for the Gators.

The Dawgs will be tough again.

As defending SEC conference champions, the Vols will likely be a preseason top 10 team. With Mayo and Berry leading the defense... and high hopes from some young Vols like Ben Martin thrown in to bolster the D-line, we could be in for a great 2008 season.

Preseason... I agree we could have 3 SEC East teams in the top 10.
 
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IF we win out then we should end the season around 7th or maybe 8th. Preseaon it hard to say.. Probably not in the top 10.
 
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General Jack said:
Why would a 3 loss Florida team (heck, maybe 4 loss Florida team) be concensus #1? Thats crazy, unless Lundquist and Danielson are voting.
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Awesome post, General Jack! Wear them out with that one.:rock::rock:

That's 2 out of 3 seasons the Urban legend has laid the same egg. The only thing keeping them from 4 SEC losses this year is that they'll get the chance to whip up on some over-rated non-conference team in their bowl game.
 
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I'm not ready to concede that Florida will easily be concensus #1. Yes, Florida has a strong team returning, but they also have a tough schedule to play.

The media loves to slurp on Tebone, but they also love the Trojans and the Buckeyes, who have a much better chance of running the table than Florida. And given how everyone in the media wants to be right, not sure they would merrily drop florida into the top spot.
 
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utmba93 said:
Awesome post, General Jack! Wear them out with that one.:rock::rock:

That's 2 out of 3 seasons the Urban legend has laid the same egg. The only thing keeping them from 4 SEC losses this year is that they'll get the chance to whip up on some over-rated non-conference team in their bowl game.
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I think the fact that we don't have any more SEC games this year is also a factor. :huh:
 
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General Jack said:
I'm not ready to concede that Florida will easily be concensus #1. Yes, Florida has a strong team returning, but they also have a tough schedule to play.

The media loves to slurp on Tebone, but they also love the Trojans and the Buckeyes, who have a much better chance of running the table than Florida. And given how everyone in the media wants to be right, not sure they would merrily drop florida into the top spot.
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True. Florida's tough SEC schedule will be viewed by many as a hurdle, especially relative to some others'. But if this season has taught us anything, its that every team has games that they are expected to win but either don't or just scrape by in.

After this year, I have a new-found respect for a team that can win out or just lose one.
 
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lawgator1 said:
True. Florida's tough SEC schedule will be viewed by many as a hurdle, especially relative to some others'. But if this season has taught us anything, its that every team has games that they are expected to win but either don't or just scrape by in.

After this year, I have a new-found respect for a team that can win out or just lose one.
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Precisely, about all the pundits know is that someone will make it through the SEC east somehow, so I don't think they'll have an SEC team at the top of the polls. It's more likely to be a 1-loss team than an undefeated one.
 
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The SEC East should have 3 teams in the Top 10 next year, UF, UGA and TN.

If we win out we should be around 7th but that is nothing that hasn't been said already.

As for the Pre-season #1 I would almost say OU will be the Preseason #1 pick. I could see the Following for next year.

#1 - Oklahoma
#2 - USC
#3 - Florida
#5 - Ohio State
#6 - Georgia
#7 - Tennessee
#8 - Who Cares
#9 - Ditto
 
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NOLAVolfan said:
Quite frankly, I think there should be no polls until after the first weekend in October, when you can really gauge where a team is, but that doesn't sell magazines or newspapers in the summer, and what will we have to argue about in August if they stopped doing them?
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I have said the same thing. The preseason polls make it too difficult for a team to move up fairly, and also keep an undeserving team up too long, i.e. USC, OH State, S FL, etc.
 
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Mumpy said:
The SEC East should have 3 teams in the Top 10 next year, UF, UGA and TN.

If we win out we should be around 7th but that is nothing that hasn't been said already.

As for the Pre-season #1 I would almost say OU will be the Preseason #1 pick. I could see the Following for next year.

#1 - Oklahoma
#2 - USC
#3 - Florida
#5 - Ohio State
#6 - Georgia
#7 - Tennessee
#8 - Who Cares
#9 - Ditto
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That looks like the kind of preseason polls (with any of the 3 of us being in the 8 or 9 surrounded by say a Big East team). It's also a bit sickening because it represents the strength of schedule calculus that I've grown to hate about college football polls.

When all is said and done, I also think a 1-loss SEC East team will have a shot at the NC against whichever other non-conference team goes undefeated against their competition---and the SEC East team will be favored to win it all.
 
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