If we had a Urban Meyer style offense.

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Fine Vol

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Even if we did get a new coach and one who was very aggresive in his play calling and loved to throw the ball I not sure I would like it. We have always prided ourself with smash mouth running and conservative passing so if a new coach comes in and totally opens up crazy passing plays and cuts down on our running it would feel uncomfortable. There are plenty of Vol fans who say we need to be more daring in our play calling but just how far should we go. Would you as a fan be ok if you looked out at the field and our beloved Vols had a 100% different playbook? Be carefull what you ask for.
 
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Offenses should evolve. That is where I will give Meyer some degree of credit. The offense he ran last year was nothing like he ran at Utah. He actually adapted.
 
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Geez we need an Urban Meyer Forum so all you people can discuss and drool over your favorite coach. This is getting ridiculous (even for FineVol)!
 
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utvolpj said:
Geez we need an Urban Meyer Forum so all you people can discuss and drool over your favorite coach. This is getting ridiculous (even for FineVol)!
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No, I needed a coach with a wild style to make my point. I was saying if we got a coach like Urban who was very liberal with his offense.
 
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The best coaches are those who adapt their systems to maximize the ability of the personnel on the field. If that meant going back to the single wing, then do it. If it means shotgun with no RBs and 5 wide receivers, do it.

I still can't get past Nebraska passing the ball as much as they do though.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
The best coaches are those who adapt their systems to maximize the ability of the personnel on the field. If that meant going back to the single wing, then do it. If it means shotgun with no RBs and 5 wide receivers, do it.

I still can't get past Nebraska passing the ball as much as they do though.
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I agree. I think Fulmer is starting to realize that. Sounds like next year he will be using 2 TE's most of the game.
 
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oklavol said:
I agree. I think Fulmer is starting to realize that. Sounds like next year he will be using 2 TE's most of the game.
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I don't think he hasn't realized that. The difference in offensive focus from 1997 (Peyton airing it out) to 1998 (run, run, run, and don't let Tee Martin cost the team) was enormous.

2 TE's would be great if both TE's are capable of being a major point of the offense. If it's 2 TE's just for the sake of having both on the field, there's really no point.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
I don't think he hasn't realized that. The difference in offensive focus from 1997 (Peyton airing it out) to 1998 (run, run, run, and don't let Tee Martin cost the team) was enormous.

2 TE's would be great if both TE's are capable of being a major point of the offense. If it's 2 TE's just for the sake of having both on the field, there's really no point.
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Last year was a tale of two seasons for the Vols. It seemed that Cut came out intent on taking advantage of the verticle offense, and in the middle of the season CPF pulled back on the reigns. I am not convinced that he has adapted quite yet.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
I don't think he hasn't realized that. The difference in offensive focus from 1997 (Peyton airing it out) to 1998 (run, run, run, and don't let Tee Martin cost the team) was enormous.

2 TE's would be great if both TE's are capable of being a major point of the offense. If it's 2 TE's just for the sake of having both on the field, there's really no point.
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My impression is UT went to 2 TE because they were more proven then the WR's UT has coming back.

I think UT ran most of the same formations with Tee Martin and Peyton, UT did call more QB sneaks, roll-outs, and deep passing patterns. But it was basically the same offense.

I think now there are more changes. Last year UT went with a single back most the time and this year probably 2 TE. IMO Fulmer is willing to be more creative with formations, plays, etc to get the most productive players on the field.
 
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Oklavol is the guy who thinks we'll be running a HUNH2TE set for all of our plays on offense, and a 3-4 defense.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Oklavol is the guy who thinks we'll be running a HUNH2TE set for all of our plays on offense, and a 3-4 defense.
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Fulmer has already said they plan on using 2 TE's more and Chavis has said they are looking at using s 3-4 defense. I dont think that, I read that.
 
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Another potential benefit to consider is that, if you open the offense up quite a bit then you can probably lure some of the better and faster recievers to UT. As is, with a run-only type of offense, there isn't much incentive for a kid who wants to show off his skills to the NFL to go there. If you want more Meachems, you need to make it a showcase for their type of talent.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Another potential benefit to consider is that, if you open the offense up quite a bit then you can probably lure some of the better and faster recievers to UT. As is, with a run-only type of offense, there isn't much incentive for a kid who wants to show off his skills to the NFL to go there. If you want more Meachems, you need to make it a showcase for their type of talent.
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Slow day, LG has decided to go fishing....
 
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oklavol said:
Fulmer has already said they plan on using 2 TE's more and Chavis has said they are looking at using s 3-4 defense. I dont think that, I read that.
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You read that they are looking at these things. All your posts talk about "when they do it." They haven't done anything yet. Running a NH offense and using NH aren't the same thing.
 
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lawgator1 said:
As is, with a run-only type of offense, there isn't much incentive for a kid who wants to show off his skills to the NFL to go there. If you want more Meachems, you need to make it a showcase for their type of talent.
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blah, blah, blah...

UT has had plenty of success putting wide receivers in the NFL...and, as a group, I'd say UTs wideouts have been more successful than Florida's wideouts in the NFL.
 
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Sheesz! I am actually saying this is a positive development for UT and all I get in reply is that my pointing out a benefit means I'm chastising you for not having done it before.

Could not be further from the truth. Traditionally, UT has been a run-oriented offense. I would think that makes kids who want to play on such an offense because of their particular skill set more itnerested in going there, whereas kids with another skill set would go elsewhere.

All I was trying to say is that, by opening things up a bit, an added benefit will be getting some more of those other kids. No slight intended.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I wasn't baiting you into anything. Surely the perception that UT is going to be more aggressive on offense would help recruiting, wouldn't it? I was being totally serious.
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Given the recent recruiting class, it is safe to say that UT is far from being the red headed stepchild sitting at the recruiting dinner table with the big bad alligators...
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
Given the recent recruiting class, it is safe to say that UT is far from being the red headed stepchild sitting at the recruiting dinner table with the big bad alligators...
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Actually, in context of this thread, I don't know the answer to that. What were the rankings of the UT recruits in the speed-skill positions, especially receivers?
 
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VolinArizona said:
You read that they are looking at these things. All your posts talk about "when they do it." They haven't done anything yet. Running a NH offense and using NH aren't the same thing.
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I'm not allowed to read something the coaches say and comment on it? your ridiculous.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Actually, in context of this thread, I don't know the answer to that. What were the rankings of the UT recruits in the speed-skill positions, especially receivers?
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ut=:dance2:
Fla.=:crazy:
at speed-skill, this info is off scout
 
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