If The SEC & B1G Joined Together in a Whole New College Sports League, What Would It Look Like?

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#26
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B1G is top heavy. I do think their top teams are good but they often have a win or two that they wouldn't have with a more difficult schedule. Penn State, for example, is probably a 10-2 or 9-3 team in the SEC (unless they get Texas or Texas A&M's schedule lol).

Ohio State would be elite even in the SEC. The issue is the bottom of the B1G just isn't good. Teams like Minnesota, Indiana (traditionally), Illinois, Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers, and Northwestern just don't recruit on par with the elites. Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Nebraska have made noise or have the potential to make noise but even they can rarely be on the same playing field, talent-wise, as Michigan and Ohio State.

The last time a B1G team not named Michigan or Ohio State won a national title was in the 1960s.

The 4 West Coasts teams probably add some depth to the B1G, but UCLA, USC, and Washington came into the B1G on a major down year with coaching/player attritions. Only Oregon was a sold team from that batch and has frankly stepped it up to be the Champion.
I'd argue Penn State is a 7-5 or 8-4 team at best in the SEC. They are 2-7 against SEC teams since 2010. The 2 wins were against bottom of the barrell Auburn teams. They do just enough to barely beat bad Big 10 teams and always lose to top 10 teams. Sure they will beat an overrated Iowa or Illinois team here and there. But they have a huge talent advantange over those teams and barely squeak by.

Against similar talent, they are terrible. For example, they were blown out by Ole Miss last bowl season. That's before Ole Miss went to the portal and spent all their money. James Franklin's offenses are usually terrible. They wouldn't keep up in the SEC against teams that can stop basic offenses. They would be like Oklahoma this year. I fully expect SMU to beat them.
 
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I'd argue Penn State is a 7-5 or 8-4 team at best in the SEC. They are 2-7 against SEC teams since 2010. The 2 wins were against bottom of the barrell Auburn teams. They do just enough to barely beat bad Big 10 teams and always lose to top 10 teams. Sure they will beat an overrated Iowa or Illinois team here and there. But they have a huge talent advantange over those teams and barely squeak by.

Against similar talent, they are terrible. For example, they were blown out by Ole Miss last bowl season. That's before Ole Miss went to the portal and spent all their money. James Franklin's offenses are usually terrible. They wouldn't keep up in the SEC against teams that can stop basic offenses. They would be like Oklahoma this year. I fully expect SMU to beat them.

Bowl games don't mean much, though. The same Ole Miss team is 0-2 against the Big12 with ugly losses. Is the Big12 superior? Often times, the teams you see in the bowl games are the backups.
 
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He isn't the commissioner that Mike Slive was. Mike Slive played chess.

The scheduling this year was totally out of whack with fraud teams like Texas A&M almost having a shot while Georgia had to play a gauntlet.

Meanwhile, B1G out played him with their scheduling and then CFB Playoff setup. It looks like adding OU and Texas did nothing and made things harder on SEC teams to make the playoffs.
Nobody thought Indiana was more than a 7 and 5 team to start the year. Coach got them rolling over bad teams, and Michigan and Washington were both down. I don't think they were gifted an easy schedule,.more than it turned out to be easy.

Penn State however.........
 
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I'd argue Penn State is a 7-5 or 8-4 team at best in the SEC. They are 2-7 against SEC teams since 2010. The 2 wins were against bottom of the barrell Auburn teams. They do just enough to barely beat bad Big 10 teams and always lose to top 10 teams. Sure they will beat an overrated Iowa or Illinois team here and there. But they have a huge talent advantange over those teams and barely squeak by.

Against similar talent, they are terrible. For example, they were blown out by Ole Miss last bowl season. That's before Ole Miss went to the portal and spent all their money. James Franklin's offenses are usually terrible. They wouldn't keep up in the SEC against teams that can stop basic offenses. They would be like Oklahoma this year. I fully expect SMU to beat them.
Bowl games.have become glorified scrimmages for teams.with actual talent who leave, and then other guys portal out before the bowl

FSU HAD LIKE 23 GUYS not play in their bowl vs Georgia. Ratings are dumpster fires even for teams with good fanbases (see Ohio State and bama). I saw the rating for bamas non playoff game a few years back was like 51% of a normal bama game in the season. .

Nobody gives a crap now about bowls that have no bearing on the championship
 
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I think it'd be called the SCAA (Southern College Athletics Association), because most teams in these two conferences are down south (not southeastern, just south) ... your thoughts? Please don't hate on me for making another thread, it's only my second đŸ„ș
Vandy and Northwestern could play each other every week.
 
#31
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4 Conferences. 12 teams each. Conferences could be drafted or assigned geographically. I think a draft makes the most sense honestly.

12 game season. Everyone plays everyone to determine seeding.

Everyone gets in playoffs. Top 4 of each conference gets first round bye. Remaining 8 play first round against another conference's bottom 8. Alternate which conferences are in which side of bracket each year (i.e. SEC vs ACC one year, BIG10 vs SEC the next year).

Put them head to head. Winning conference gets prize money to be split among the members, with 25% total going to the winning school.

Everyone else can go to FCS or do their own thing. Each year, the bottom team in each conference can be relegated to FCS in exchange for an FCS program championship. The conference who performed worst in the playoffs can select their new program first, followed by second worse, etc. Every year, 4 programs would be added, 4 would be dropped, in an attempt to strengthen conferences.
 
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Really though- Why is Texas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma here when they're southwestern? Also, B1G makes more sense because Notre Dame is in Indiana, so it COULD be ACC but, in my opinion, not close enough to the coast for it to be in the ACC. In CFB25 (It doesn't really matter, but here it goes) I ALWAYS put them in the Big 12 OR B1G
It's a closer trip from Austin to the East Coast than it is to the West Coast
 
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I have been a fan of years of moving the American, Conf USA, Sunbelt, MWC, MAC, etc. down to FCS level. Pac12 is debatable right now (IMO, they should be ineligible for the auto-bye in CFB Playoff - Looking at Boise State).

Just have the 4 leagues ACC, B1G, SEC, and Big12. Force Notre Dame to join one of them or move to FCS.
You can't move them down to FCS. What you could do is create a new division for them
 
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It definitely hurt the SEC in 2024. Big issue is the seeding of the 1-4 teams. Having teams like Boise State and Arizona State ahead of Tennessee and knocking us out of a hosting spot is the problem. I can somewhat live with Arizona State but not Boise State. If ACC cannot produce a top 10 team, I thought Notre Dame would take their spot? That was the setup in BCS era and the 4-team CFB Playoff. Notre Dame should be in the seed that Boise State is and we should be #8.
Did you notice or maybe I missed it that the ESPN avoided the ND and conference issue all together. I feel that they should have address it. They will not because it will cost them money and viewership. Elephant in the room.

ND should get a spot in the CFP but there should be a caveat for those teams without a conference will not host a playoff game so 9 - 12 is where they should be slotted. Expanded the field it should be 9 -14 or 9 -16.

ND getting the 5-8 seeding (Could be a 1-8 seed or bye in the future) is ridiculous and is a slap to the Conferences. With a 58th SOS. No Conference then it should not consider a team equal and should not be allotted any top half seeds. Sorry but this is crap to award them a top half seed. In Contrast, if they were Number 1-4 in the CFP the best they could have done was a 5 seed.

I am more pissed off about this than most of the other things.
 
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Did you notice or maybe I missed it that the ESPN avoided the ND and conference issue all together. I feel that they should have address it.

ND should get a spot in the CFP but there should be a caveat for those teams without a conference will not host a playoff game so 9 - 12 is where they should be slotted. Expanded the field it should be 9 -14 or 9 -16.

ND getting the 5-8 seeding (Could be a 1-8 seed or bye in the future) is ridiculous and is a slap to the Conferences. With a 58th SOS. No Conference should equal no top half seeds. Sorry but crap.

I am more pissed off about this than most of the other things.

Strength of Schedule was not calculated at all. If it had, Tennessee would be at the very least a 6 seed. Indiana, SMU would be out. Penn State wouldn't host. BYU or a second Big12 team would have made it with Alabama.

Boise State would be #12 or so.
 
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4 Conferences. 12 teams each. Conferences could be drafted or assigned geographically. I think a draft makes the most sense honestly.

12 game season. Everyone plays everyone to determine seeding.

Everyone gets in playoffs. Top 4 of each conference gets first round bye. Remaining 8 play first round against another conference's bottom 8. Alternate which conferences are in which side of bracket each year (i.e. SEC vs ACC one year, BIG10 vs SEC the next year).

Put them head to head. Winning conference gets prize money to be split among the members, with 25% total going to the winning school.

Everyone else can go to FCS or do their own thing. Each year, the bottom team in each conference can be relegated to FCS in exchange for an FCS program championship. The conference who performed worst in the playoffs can select their new program first, followed by second worse, etc. Every year, 4 programs would be added, 4 would be dropped, in an attempt to strengthen conferences.
This makes sense honestly. This would probably be the most logical way for a new CFB league.
 
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Bowl games.have become glorified scrimmages for teams.with actual talent who leave, and then other guys portal out before the bowl

FSU HAD LIKE 23 GUYS not play in their bowl vs Georgia. Ratings are dumpster fires even for teams with good fanbases (see Ohio State and bama). I saw the rating for bamas non playoff game a few years back was like 51% of a normal bama game in the season. .

Nobody gives a crap now about bowls that have no bearing on the championship
You have to look at it from a case by case basis. Last year, Iowa essentially had their whole team play us except one injured DB. On the other hand we had multiple guys injured or not playing. Our WR corp was a joke. Yet, we won 35-0.

Its not much different with the Penn State vs Ole Miss game last year. Penn State was missing a few defenders. But Ole Miss had a mass exodus of players also leave for the transfer portal and had not yet been able to acquire guys for the next season. They were even moreso depleted. Yet they walked down the field easily against Penn State.

The only players sitting out are transfers or NFL prospects. That and injured players. Both teams are still playing guys who are in-line to play the next season. Both teams are in the same predicament. If anything the Big 10 has their top teams matched up against SEC middle of the road teams, yet lose big.
 
#40
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I think that Notre Dame (by 2028) will have joined the B1G, because eventually they'll start to lose their reputation for a powerhouse football program as an independent school. For example, UConn is a POWERHOUSE independent BASKETBALL sport, but they are crippling in football because no one wants to play for a school with no home.
 
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Bowl games don't mean much, though. The same Ole Miss team is 0-2 against the Big12 with ugly losses. Is the Big12 superior? Often times, the teams you see in the bowl games are the backups.
I'm talking the full body of work against SEC teams. Two games is a small sample size as well. Its not enough information and can be easily manipulated. Plus, I don't see that they are 0-2 against Big 12 teams. Since 2010 they are 3-3 against them. Much different than being 2-7.
 
#42
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ACC or B1G are the best fits for Notre Dame.

I really want these leagues to join and then become more regional again as well. However, since they are the same league, they can setup more meaningful cross-division matchups so you will see games like Alabama playing at Ohio State or Clemson playing at Tennessee.
This would ensure that the top 12 teams would all be SEC teams.
 
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I have been a fan of years of moving the American, Conf USA, Sunbelt, MWC, MAC, etc. down to FCS level. Pac12 is debatable right now (IMO, they should be ineligible for the auto-bye in CFB Playoff - Looking at Boise State).

Just have the 4 leagues ACC, B1G, SEC, and Big12. Force Notre Dame to join one of them or move to FCS.
And no special seed for the 4 conference winners. I’m ok with them getting a CFP bid, but final rankings still apply, so whatever their ranking is, that’s where they fall.
 
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I hate the bigger conferences. It makes it harder for each team to get traction. The SEC has 4-5 teams that would best most the playoff teams, but they can’t get out of the conference dogfight. It’s a ‘’paper covers rock, rock breaks scissors, scissors cuts paper” world.” People say the SEC is down this year. Maybe. I think it is up, with more good teams who cannibalize each other. Big conferences mean that some good teams will sit home while lesser teams go to the playoffs.

Agree. The only people saying the SEC is down are a-holes like Dennis Dodd and the rest of the Big 10 ass licking national media. The Big 10 has a couple of really good teams, and few other decent ones (Penn State, Inidiana, Illinois) that beat up on the dreck making up the rest of the conference.

The SEC had what, 9 teams out of 16 with at least eight wins? We pounded on each other all season, and the only teams in the Big 10 that don't suck make the playoff. I, for one, want nothing to do with the Big 10. They're on the same level as the ACC and Big 12.
 
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I personally hate the idea. One of the best things about college football is its traditions and variance. And every single one of them are being trampled if not destroyed for the sake of an NFL Lite movement. If I wanted to watch the NFL I would be more involved on Sundays. I don’t want a cookie cutter league where colleges start demanding things (like new stadiums). I mean if Bama doesn’t get their way are they going to relocate to LA once this whole thing is fully incorporated? The way this is all headed is frankly stupid and is going to hurt the sport.

It’s like what happened to Star Wars when Disney got its woke claws into it. Why should Vandy, Miss St, or Maryland get to be a part of it while an Arizona St or UVA doesn’t? And let’s not forget there was a good decade plus where people would say Tennessee doesn’t even belong in it. Let’s keep college football - I dunno college football- not a pro league. Once we get get some guardrails on compensation and NIL hopefully wiser heads will prevail.
 
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This makes sense honestly. This would probably be the most logical way for a new CFB league.
In my model, no one gets left out, and you decide seedings by record. It takes the subjectivity out of it.

And I love the idea of losing and adding a team each year. Imagine this year switching out a Kentucky for say....Boise State.
 
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He isn't the commissioner that Mike Slive was. Mike Slive played chess.

The scheduling this year was totally out of whack with fraud teams like Texas A&M almost having a shot while Georgia had to play a gauntlet.

Meanwhile, B1G out played him with their scheduling and then CFB Playoff setup. It looks like adding OU and Texas did nothing and made things harder on SEC teams to make the playoffs.
I wouldn't even wish GA's shedule this year on Bama. That was brutal, and they had to beat TX twice. Now, TX did have a bit of a cakewalk for their first SEC gauntlet, and they found out what it takes to win. You have to go through Athens, and you will seldom pull it twice in a season. To their credit, they knew who they were playing the second time and held it tight.
 
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You have to look at it from a case by case basis. Last year, Iowa essentially had their whole team play us except one injured DB. On the other hand we had multiple guys injured or not playing. Our WR corp was a joke. Yet, we won 35-0.

Its not much different with the Penn State vs Ole Miss game last year. Penn State was missing a few defenders. But Ole Miss had a mass exodus of players also leave for the transfer portal and had not yet been able to acquire guys for the next season. They were even moreso depleted. Yet they walked down the field easily against Penn State.

The only players sitting out are transfers or NFL prospects. That and injured players. Both teams are still playing guys who are in-line to play the next season. Both teams are in the same predicament. If anything the Big 10 has their top teams matched up against SEC middle of the road teams, yet lose big.
According to the pre game.report Ole miss had one starter opt out,.Penny State five.

Not sure if that's how it played out

Ole miss didn't have many guys declare for the draft last year, so that may be why
 
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According to the pre game.report Ole miss had one starter opt out,.Penny State five.

Not sure if that's how it played out

Ole miss didn't have many guys declare for the draft last year, so that may be why

You aren't accounting for injured players and transfers portal exits.
 

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