If The SEC & B1G Joined Together in a Whole New College Sports League, What Would It Look Like?

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I think it'd be called the SCAA (Southern College Athletics Association), because most teams in these two conferences are down south (not southeastern, just south) ... your thoughts? Please don't hate on me for making another thread, it's only my second 🥺
 
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I have been a fan of years of moving the American, Conf USA, Sunbelt, MWC, MAC, etc. down to FCS level. Pac12 is debatable right now (IMO, they should be ineligible for the auto-bye in CFB Playoff - Looking at Boise State).

Just have the 4 leagues ACC, B1G, SEC, and Big12. Force Notre Dame to join one of them or move to FCS.
 
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Is los Angeles South? Lol. If not, then the bigten has more schools in it and would have more 'northern' schools

I'm.sure a less 'directional name' would be better served.
Yeah, sorry but half of the B1G is south so maybe the Southern Division would come into play, and they'd make new college teams in the south? Now that I think about it a less directional name is likely. Idrk just a random af thought I had
 
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True, Notre Dame would probably join the Big 12, what do you think?
I have been a fan of years of moving the American, Conf USA, Sunbelt, MWC, MAC, etc. down to FCS level. Pac12 is debatable right now (IMO, they should be ineligible for the auto-bye in CFB Playoff - Looking at Boise State).

Just have the 4 leagues ACC, B1G, SEC, and Big12. Force Notre Dame to join one of them or move to FCS.
 
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True, Notre Dame would probably join the Big 12, what do you think?

ACC or B1G are the best fits for Notre Dame.

I really want these leagues to join and then become more regional again as well. However, since they are the same league, they can setup more meaningful cross-division matchups so you will see games like Alabama playing at Ohio State or Clemson playing at Tennessee.
 
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ACC or B1G are the best fits for Notre Dame.

I really want these leagues to join and then become more regional again as well. However, since they are the same league, they can setup more meaningful cross-division matchups so you will see games like Alabama playing at Ohio State or Clemson playing at Tennessee.
Really though- Why is Texas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma here when they're southwestern? Also, B1G makes more sense because Notre Dame is in Indiana, so it COULD be ACC but, in my opinion, not close enough to the coast for it to be in the ACC. In CFB25 (It doesn't really matter, but here it goes) I ALWAYS put them in the Big 12 OR B1G
 
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The super conferences serve the conferences, not the teams. Mega conferences make it harder for teams to get traction. Most of us believe that the SEC is the best conference, and teams like SMU/Boise would lose more than two games with a SEC schedule, yet they get to plat cupcakes and go to the playoffs.
 
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I think it would be best served to have a SEC/B1G Challenge every season. Model it after the basketball challenges. You hold it over 2 weekends where half the teams play. You could do it in back to back weekends in September where each conference hosts a huge game each weekend at one of the best venues. The ACC could do the same with the Big 12. Force everyone to play the same amount of conference games, same # of power 4 teams, simultaneously forcing Notre Dame to join a conference (B1G) . This would create a lot more transparency and also give the consumer more good OOC matchups .
 
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Spit balling here

A good acronym is a must

College Football League - there's already a CFL so that's out

College Football Association sounds good, but that's been used before

College Football Federation sounds lofty and CFF sounds good

Could be modeled with two leagues and geographical divisions like the old NFL/AFL
 
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Really though- Why is Texas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma here when they're southwestern? Also, B1G makes more sense because Notre Dame is in Indiana, so it COULD be ACC but, in my opinion, not close enough to the coast for it to be in the ACC. In CFB25 (It doesn't really matter, but here it goes) I ALWAYS put them in the Big 12 OR B1G

Agree. Texas at least has connections with the South. Issue is that the Big12 was full of mediocre programs. Only Kansas (mostly due to Basketball), Nebraska, Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, and Oklahoma had any type of following from a fanbase support. The rest of the teams were a bunch of Miss State/Vandy level programs. Once Nebraska, Colorado, and Missouri jumped shipped, the league just didn't have any traction and really still doesn't. There are decent programs in it like West Virginia, BYU, Kansas, Oklahoma State, and the Arizonas but nothing elite. You have a bunch of Texas Private Schools that struggle to event get 50k fans at their games (basically Texas versions of Memphis, MTSU, and Vandy).

The only real program that still seems out of whack in the SEC is Missouri. They still seem like an odd setup. Oklahoma only fits because of the Texas connections but the Texas teams were in the original SIAA and were with the South if you go far enough back in history. They have also played a lot of SEC programs historically and have a natural rivalry with Arkansas (and to a degree LSU). LSU playing Oklahoma this year instead of Texas was kind of an oddity in scheduling.

I do think Sankey did not do a good job of onboarding OU and Texas like Slive did with Missouri and Texas A&M. The scheduling was unbalanced. Literally just switching one matchup would have made it better like having UK or Vandy with Oklahoma and having LSU with Texas.

Also, Texas opening up with Miss State was a dude of a start to the SEC. Slive had both Missouri and Texas A&M open up with a premier matchup.

Sankey has also let the playoff committee mess him over with these auto-bids. B1G has 4 bids with 2 teams hosting home games and the other getting a bye while the SEC only has 3 bids with 1 team hosting and 1 team getting a bye despite the fact that most people would consider the SEC to be stronger than the B1G in 2024. Not a good look for the SEC or Sankey.
 
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I have been a fan of years of moving the American, Conf USA, Sunbelt, MWC, MAC, etc. down to FCS level. Pac12 is debatable right now (IMO, they should be ineligible for the auto-bye in CFB Playoff - Looking at Boise State).

Just have the 4 leagues ACC, B1G, SEC, and Big12. Force Notre Dame to join one of them or move to FCS.

I actually think this is what needs to happen. Move these teams down or create a division just for them
 
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I hate the bigger conferences. It makes it harder for each team to get traction. The SEC has 4-5 teams that would best most the playoff teams, but they can’t get out of the conference dogfight. It’s a ‘’paper covers rock, rock breaks scissors, scissors cuts paper” world.” People say the SEC is down this year. Maybe. I think it is up, with more good teams who cannibalize each other. Big conferences mean that some good teams will sit home while lesser teams go to the playoffs.
 
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I actually think this is what needs to happen. Move these teams down or create a division just for them

Frankly, it has been something that should have happened all the way back in the BCS era.

No way that Louisiana Monroe, MTSU, etc. are on the same playing field as an SEC program.
 
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I hate the bigger conferences. It makes it harder for each team to get traction. The SEC has 4-5 teams that would best most the playoff teams, but they can’t get out of the conference dogfight. It’s a ‘’paper covers rock, rock breaks scissors, scissors cuts paper” world.” People say the SEC is down this year. Maybe. I think it is up, with more good teams who cannibalize each other. Big conferences mean that some good teams will sit home while lesser teams go to the playoffs.

It definitely hurt the SEC in 2024. Big issue is the seeding of the 1-4 teams. Having teams like Boise State and Arizona State ahead of Tennessee and knocking us out of a hosting spot is the problem. I can somewhat live with Arizona State but not Boise State. If ACC cannot produce a top 10 team, I thought Notre Dame would take their spot? That was the setup in BCS era and the 4-team CFB Playoff. Notre Dame should be in the seed that Boise State is and we should be #8.
 
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Spit balling here

A good acronym is a must

College Football League - there's already a CFL so that's out

College Football Association sounds good, but that's been used before

College Football Federation sounds lofty and CFF sounds good

Could be modeled with two leagues and geographical divisions like the old NFL/AFL

I'd go with "USFL."

'Cuz that it what is essentially happening.

These conferences would just be creating a second professional football league; this one will be successful because there is no marketing to build a fan base necessary; this league comes comes with millions of fans loyal to the brand already.
 
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Agree. Texas at least has connections with the South. Issue is that the Big12 was full of mediocre programs. Only Kansas (mostly due to Basketball), Nebraska, Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, and Oklahoma had any type of following from a fanbase support. The rest of the teams were a bunch of Miss State/Vandy level programs. Once Nebraska, Colorado, and Missouri jumped shipped, the league just didn't have any traction and really still doesn't. There are decent programs in it like West Virginia, BYU, Kansas, Oklahoma State, and the Arizonas but nothing elite. You have a bunch of Texas Private Schools that struggle to event get 50k fans at their games (basically Texas versions of Memphis, MTSU, and Vandy).

The only real program that still seems out of whack in the SEC is Missouri. They still seem like an odd setup. Oklahoma only fits because of the Texas connections but the Texas teams were in the original SIAA and were with the South if you go far enough back in history. They have also played a lot of SEC programs historically and have a natural rivalry with Arkansas (and to a degree LSU). LSU playing Oklahoma this year instead of Texas was kind of an oddity in scheduling.

I do think Sankey did not do a good job of onboarding OU and Texas like Slive did with Missouri and Texas A&M. The scheduling was unbalanced. Literally just switching one matchup would have made it better like having UK or Vandy with Oklahoma and having LSU with Texas.

Also, Texas opening up with Miss State was a dude of a start to the SEC. Slive had both Missouri and Texas A&M open up with a premier matchup.

Sankey has also let the playoff committee mess him over with these auto-bids. B1G has 4 bids with 2 teams hosting home games and the other getting a bye while the SEC only has 3 bids with 1 team hosting and 1 team getting a bye despite the fact that most people would consider the SEC to be stronger than the B1G in 2024. Not a good look for the SEC or Sankey.
Sankey looked and sounded lost to the nth degree after the SEC title game Saturday. It was sad. Never could pinpoint if Kirby was actually taking pot shots at him either.
 
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Sankey looked and sounded lost to the nth degree after the SEC title game Saturday. It was sad. Never could pinpoint if Kirby was actually taking pot shots at him either.

He isn't the commissioner that Mike Slive was. Mike Slive played chess.

The scheduling this year was totally out of whack with fraud teams like Texas A&M almost having a shot while Georgia had to play a gauntlet.

Meanwhile, B1G out played him with their scheduling and then CFB Playoff setup. It looks like adding OU and Texas did nothing and made things harder on SEC teams to make the playoffs.
 
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Yeah, sorry but half of the B1G is south so maybe the Southern Division would come into play, and they'd make new college teams in the south? Now that I think about it a less directional name is likely. Idrk just a random af thought I had
Ohio is south? Indiana and Ohio are the most southern states in the conference and both squarely above the mason/Dixon

Other than UCLA/USC which would seem weird calling them 'south' lol

I'd go with a title that stresses the size/magnitude of it, leaving no doubt about who is in charge lol
 
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I'm tired of the Big 10 getting partnered next to the SEC. Yet, every bowl season their teams lose. I will laugh histerically once SMU beats Penn State and we roll past Ohio State. Its predictable. Their teams are always overrated.
 
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I'd go with "USFL."

'Cuz that it what is essentially happening.

These conferences would just be creating a second professional football league; this one will be successful because there is no marketing to build a fan base necessary; this league comes comes with millions of fans loyal to the brand already.
That's a nice darn spitball there (for UT Hill Man). Didn't the USFL already exist though?
 
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I think it'd be called the SCAA (Southern College Athletics Association), because most teams in these two conferences are down south (not southeastern, just south) ... your thoughts? Please don't hate on me for making another thread, it's only my second 🥺
Civil War 2.0, with the most money as a prize.
Lots of bickering, accusations, tit-for-tats, you know how humans are.
 
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I'm tired of the Big 10 getting partnered next to the SEC. Yet, every bowl season their teams lose. I will laugh histerically once SMU beats Penn State and we roll past Ohio State. Its predictable. Their teams are always overrated.

B1G is top heavy. I do think their top teams are good but they often have a win or two that they wouldn't have with a more difficult schedule. Penn State, for example, is probably a 10-2 or 9-3 team in the SEC (unless they get Texas or Texas A&M's schedule lol).

Ohio State would be elite even in the SEC. The issue is the bottom of the B1G just isn't good. Teams like Minnesota, Indiana (traditionally), Illinois, Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers, and Northwestern just don't recruit on par with the elites. Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Nebraska have made noise or have the potential to make noise but even they can rarely be on the same playing field, talent-wise, as Michigan and Ohio State.

The last time a B1G team not named Michigan or Ohio State won a national title was in the 1960s.

The 4 West Coasts teams probably add some depth to the B1G, but UCLA, USC, and Washington came into the B1G on a major down year with coaching/player attritions. Only Oregon was a sold team from that batch and has frankly stepped it up to be the Champion.
 

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