If TENNESSEE wants to win...

#101
#101
govols/cc said:
Lol. Dumb post of the day at least. The offense can't beat anybody if the defense can't stop anybody. They saved us from losing to a pitiful Troy team. Probably the most embarrassing win ever.
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This is true, but when they had chances to score they failed look bad at the FL game, just for one. Glad I made you dumb post of the day. You made mine.:good!:
 
#102
#102
AllVols said:
This is true, but when they had chances to score they failed look bad at the FL game, just for one. Glad I made you dumb post of the day. You made mine.:good!:
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You're not very smart so its all good. Took a minute to break down your illiterate post. Anybody wanting to place any blame on the offense is pretty dumb.
 
#103
#103
UTFanForLife said:
Tee had a D. He didn't do anything overly special, he played great dont get me wrong, but wasn't a game changer. Stoerner was our best player that year.
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I guess people hate Fulmer so much that they try to diminish our only legitimate NC since Neyland. The fact is, most teams who win championships have some breaks go their way. After we recovered, we still had to drive about 50 yards for the winning touchdown. If Arkansas was the better team, they would have been able to stop Travis Henry, but they couldn't. You are such a fool. That team was so good that Shawn Bryson, the fullback, went on to be a starting running back for a few years in the NFL. When you lose a future 2,000 yard rusher and still have a tremendous backfield, the quarterback doesn't have to be Cam Newton. Not to mention Chad Clifton protecting him and a defense featuring Shaun Ellis, Al Wilson, and Deon Grant.
 
#105
#105
Peyton Manning lost 1 start to Alabama,3 to Florida,I at Memphis and the Orange Bowl to Nebraska..That makes him like 39-5..

You are a ****ing idiot if you believe what you posted.
 
#106
#106
Dual threat quarter backs usually =injuries in the sec. Yes it's nice to have a duel threat to bale you out of a busted play, but not good in terms of longevity. That's just the way it is.
 
#108
#108
1truevol said:
Dual threat quarter backs usually =injuries in the sec. Yes it's nice to have a duel threat to bale you out of a busted play, but not good in terms of longevity. That's just the way it is.
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Tim tebow
Cam Newton

Name the ones injured in the Sec.
 
#110
#110
Uhh.......tebow/newton were physical freaks. How many of those type players have you watched in the last twenty years? It's high stakes for an offense to be built around one dual threat qb and then he goes down. Do you remember Brent Schaffer,Jerry Colquitt, and Todd Helton just to name a few? All three went down with injuries running the ball and it affected the rest of the season.
 
#111
#111
UTFanForLife said:
Tee had a D. He didn't do anything overly special, he played great dont get me wrong, but wasn't a game changer. Stoerner was our best player that year.
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Yeah..love Tee..but a very average QB he was. Average QB's travel single file to hide their numbers....
 
#113
#113
1truevol said:
Uhh.......tebow/newton were physical freaks. How many of those type players have you watched in the last twenty years? It's high stakes for an offense to be built around one dual threat qb and then he goes down. Do you remember Brent Schaffer,Jerry Colquitt, and Todd Helton just to name a few? All three went down with injuries running the ball and it affected the rest of the season.
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I've seen enough in the past few years to know what that kinda athlete brings to the table(used to be one), it's beyond my comprehension to think a pass first.. run second Qb can't work at UT. I was a Qb in high school and if there weren't any receivers open.. I'd truck your azz!! That's when I weighed 175 lbs! If your weak not athletic I don't expect you to understand! I'm 32 and sore as hell.... Some friends and Eye played tackle football in Ardmore TN a couple of months back, and my old azz still knows how to lower the showlah and get those extra Yds(I hurt for 3 wks)! Don't tell me a young man can't be a tough Dual-threat Qb and make it in the sec...
 
#114
#114
Lol....no i don't fall in the weak and non athletic group. I'm a solid 210 and have played qb myself. Personally I'd rather truck your azz than throw it to a wide open receiver. I share the same mindset. I do enjoy watching rg3 and those type players...it's just high stakes to roll that way. That's why many college (not all obviously) teams stick with traditional pocket passers. That's the reason 90% of nfl teams share that same philosophy as well. SEC defenses like it when QB's wanna lower the shoulder!
 
#116
#116
Of Tennesse quarterbacks who have been starters in the past, Tee Martin and Heath Shuler have the physical structure best suited to withstand the kind of punishment that SEC defenses dispense on a weekly basis. Previous contributors have already cited serious injuries sustained by Brent Schaffer, Jerry Colquitt, Todd Helton and Tony Robinson. Go back and watch the Kenny Chesney-directed special about Condredge Holloway if you want a first-hand account of the punishment that the Artful Dodger was regularly taking. Fast forward to James Franklin, the Missouri QB, who racked up ca. 3,800 yds. total offense last year, in the Big 12, almost 1,000 yds. on the ground. This year? He has missed nearly half the season, due to knee and shoulder injuries. Still not convinced?

Look at the table below (excerpted from http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2012/fbs.pdf ) of the leading single-season rushing performances by quarterbacks. Do you notice a pattern? With the exception of Cam Newton, none of them played for an SEC team. None of these quarterbacks played weekly against the caliber of competition, not to mention the physical style of defense which has, for so long, typified SEC football.


Player, Team Year G Carries Yards TD Yds/G
Denard Robinson, Michigan ..................... †2010 13 256 *1,702 14 130.9
Beau Morgan, Air Force ............................... †1996 11 225 1,494 18 *135.8
Cam Newton, Auburn .................................. 2010 14 264 1,473 20 105.2
Stacey Robinson, Northern Ill. ................. †1989 11 223 1,443 19 131.2
Joe Webb, UAB ................................................ †2009 12 227 1,427 11 118.9
Jammal Lord, Nebraska ............................... †2002 14 251 1,412 8 100.9
Brad Smith, Missouri ..................................... †2003 13 212 1,406 18 108.2
Chandler Harnish, Northern Ill. ............... †2011 14 194 1,379 11 98.5
Chris McCoy, Navy ......................................... †1997 11 246 1,370 20 124.5
Julian Edelman, Kent St. .............................. †2008 12 215 1,370 13 114.2
Patrick White, West Virginia ....................... †2007 13 197 1,335 14 102.7
Dee Dowis, Air Force .................................... †1987 12 194 1,315 10 109.6
Brian Mitchell, La.-Lafayette ...................... 1989 11 237 1,311 19 119.2
Brad Smith, Missouri ..................................... †2005 12 229 1,301 16 108.4
Fred Solomon, Tampa .................................. †1974 11 193 1,300 19 118.2
Dee Dowis, Air Force .................................... 1989 12 172 1,286 18 107.2
Beau Morgan, Air Force ............................... †1995 12 229 1,285 19 107.1
Antwaan Randle El, Indiana ...................... †2000 11 218 1,270 13 115.5
Stacey Robinson, Northern Ill. ................. †1990 11 193 1,238 19 112.5
Chance Harridge, Air Force ........................ 2002 13 252 1,229 23 94.5
Chris McCoy, Navy ......................................... 1996 11 268 1,228 16 111.6
Pat White, West Virginia ............................... †2006 12 165 1,219 18 101.6
Keith Boyea, Air Force .................................. †2001 12 230 1,216 18 101.3
Colin Kaepernick, Nevada .......................... 2010 14 173 1,206 20 86.1
Ricky Dobbs, Navy ......................................... 2009 13 315 1,203 *27 92.5
 
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#117
#117
Volosaurus rex said:
Of Tennesse quarterbacks who have been starters in the past, Tee Martin and Heath Shuler have the physical structure best suited to withstand the kind of punishment that SEC defenses dispense on a weekly basis. Previous contributors have already cited serious injuries sustained by Brent Schaffer, Jerry Colquitt, Todd Helton and Tony Robinson. Go back and watch the Kenny Chesney-directed special about Condredge Holloway if you want a first-hand account of the punishment that the Artful Dodger was regularly taking. Fast forward to James Franklin, the Missouri QB, who racked up ca. 3,800 yds. total offense last year, in the Big 12, almost 1,000 yds. on the ground. This year? He has missed nearly half the season, due to knee and shoulder injuries. Still not convinced?

Look at the table below (excerpted from http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2012/fbs.pdf ) of the leading single-season rushing performances by quarterbacks. Do you notice a pattern? With the exception of Cam Newton, none of them played for an SEC team. None of these quarterbacks played weekly against the caliber of competition, not to mention the physical style of defense which has, for so long, typified SEC football.


Player, Team Year G Carries Yards TD Yds/G
Denard Robinson, Michigan ..................... †2010 13 256 *1,702 14 130.9
Beau Morgan, Air Force ............................... †1996 11 225 1,494 18 *135.8
Cam Newton, Auburn .................................. 2010 14 264 1,473 20 105.2
Stacey Robinson, Northern Ill. ................. †1989 11 223 1,443 19 131.2
Joe Webb, UAB ................................................ †2009 12 227 1,427 11 118.9
Jammal Lord, Nebraska ............................... †2002 14 251 1,412 8 100.9
Brad Smith, Missouri ..................................... †2003 13 212 1,406 18 108.2
Chandler Harnish, Northern Ill. ............... †2011 14 194 1,379 11 98.5
Chris McCoy, Navy ......................................... †1997 11 246 1,370 20 124.5
Julian Edelman, Kent St. .............................. †2008 12 215 1,370 13 114.2
Patrick White, West Virginia ....................... †2007 13 197 1,335 14 102.7
Dee Dowis, Air Force .................................... †1987 12 194 1,315 10 109.6
Brian Mitchell, La.-Lafayette ...................... 1989 11 237 1,311 19 119.2
Brad Smith, Missouri ..................................... †2005 12 229 1,301 16 108.4
Fred Solomon, Tampa .................................. †1974 11 193 1,300 19 118.2
Dee Dowis, Air Force .................................... 1989 12 172 1,286 18 107.2
Beau Morgan, Air Force ............................... †1995 12 229 1,285 19 107.1
Antwaan Randle El, Indiana ...................... †2000 11 218 1,270 13 115.5
Stacey Robinson, Northern Ill. ................. †1990 11 193 1,238 19 112.5
Chance Harridge, Air Force ........................ 2002 13 252 1,229 23 94.5
Chris McCoy, Navy ......................................... 1996 11 268 1,228 16 111.6
Pat White, West Virginia ............................... †2006 12 165 1,219 18 101.6
Keith Boyea, Air Force .................................. †2001 12 230 1,216 18 101.3
Colin Kaepernick, Nevada .......................... 2010 14 173 1,206 20 86.1
Ricky Dobbs, Navy ......................................... 2009 13 315 1,203 *27 92.5
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You know that's to much to read.. Why would you?
 
#120
#120
Cyclopskiller said:
You know that's to much to read.. Why would you?
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Of course you wouldn't want to read that excerpt; it provides empirical data which challenge the fundamental validity of your premise. Furthermore, you don't read statistics; you analyze them. There is a very good reason you don't see SEC quarterbacks run the ball that much; it tends to shorten careers.
 
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