If Reagan and Ford were campaigning today...

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Rasputin_Vol

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Who would win the nomination in 2008?

If you answer this question honestly, you would have to say Ford would win, which illustrates how far the GOP has come to the center...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Who would win the nomination in 2008?

If you answer this question honestly, you would have to say Ford would win, which illustrates how far the GOP has come to the center...
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I know what you're saying, and there may be some truth to that, but if there was a conservative like Reagan who could get the base energized it would be a whole different ball game.
 
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What would you say is most responsible for this movement...natural ebb and flow, Bush, something else?
 
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volsforever27 said:
If you're asking me, I think it's RINO's. People who claim to be conservatives get to D.C. and everything changes.
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But aren't these guys generally fairly easy to spot? We're sending them there by voting for them...something must be driving us to vote for them...
 
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volsforever27 said:
If you're asking me, I think it's RINO's. People who claim to be conservatives get to D.C. and everything changes.
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Look at what happened when a Ford got the nod. He lost to Jimmy Carter.

Does anyone expect a different result if you have 2 stronger candidates on the Dem side than Carter?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Who would win the nomination in 2008?

If you answer this question honestly, you would have to say Ford would win, which illustrates how far the GOP has come to the center...
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When I first read this, I would be in total agreement with you, Ford hands down. But the one thing about Reagan was his communication skills, and how he brought people together. The anti-Bush, so I would give him a fair shot, that and Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, Beck Coulter, would all go 24/7 for the guy......:)
 
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iceman9 said:
When I first read this, I would be in total agreement with you, Ford hands down. But the one thing about Reagan was his communication skills, and how he brought people together. The anti-Bush, so I would give him a fair shot, that and Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, Beck Coulter, would all go 24/7 for the guy......:)
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Is their guy winning right now?
 
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Reagan would win. Because in the debates the other candidates mention his name about a 100 times each.
 
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TennTradition said:
Who are they really backing? I hear them talking more favorably about Hillary than anyone with (R) by their name.
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In late 2006, it was Rudy. By last summer, they were drafting Fred. After Fred looked lifeless/disinterested in campaigning this fall, they turned to Romney and have pretty much rode that horse the last few months.

In other words, no core convictions.
 
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iceman9 said:
No, but are any of these guys the communicator that Reagan was? There is zero energy in the Republican party now, and those guys know it.
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That is the biggest problem right now. No one to get excited about. And it stems back to one problem, who is the leader of the conservative movement?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
In late 2006, it was Rudy. By last summer, they were drafting Fred. After Fred looked lifeless/disinterested in campaigning this fall, they turned to Romney and have pretty much rode that horse the last few months.

In other words, no core convictions.
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Fred Thompson appears to have largely sat on his butt and, as a result, blew a good opportunity.
 
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TennTradition said:
Fred Thompson appears to have largely sat on his butt and, as a result, blew a good opportunity.
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On this I absolutely agree, he waited to long, he really could have gotten a strangle hold on this from the get-go. With Rudy being the early leader, but putting all his eggs in the Fla. basket(as it were), Fred could have all ready united the party and energized it again. But, I still don't know on that, money, health, something, he just seemed uninterested after the first month or so..........
 
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iceman9 said:
On this I absolutely agree, he waited to long, he really could have gotten a strangle hold on this from the get-go. With Rudy being the early leader, but putting all his eggs in the Fla. basket(as it were), Fred could have all ready united the party and energized it again. But, I still don't know on that, money, health, something, he just seemed uninterested after the first month or so..........
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I get the impression like he was dragged into it, and from what I hear his campaign staff was terrible.
 
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volsforever27 said:
I get the impression like he was dragged into it, and from what I hear his campaign staff was terrible.
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I have to say, I thought the same. He acted like he had been talked into it, and yes, his support staff was a detriment to say the least.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No, you just win a lifetime of free health care, courtesy of the Federal Gov't and Hillary. :p
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I'm getting pretty worried about the implementation of universal health care nation-wide. I really wouldn't have thought it would be discussed in the US until this election cycle. I'm not completely against the concept - I just don't understand how we'll make it work.
 
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TennTradition said:
I'm getting pretty worried about the implementation of universal health care nation-wide. I really wouldn't have thought it would be discussed in the US until this election cycle. I'm not completely against the concept - I just don't understand how we'll make it work.
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Don't worry, thats the great thing about it, you don't need to know, Hillary will tell you what you all you need to know. A numb society is a happy society.....:p
 
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