If our OL cannot protect well this year ...

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KnoxRealtorVOL said:
We'll portal for them. Nothing to worry about at this moment.
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lol. Center is arguably just as important as the QB in Heupels system. You can’t just portal experience like Coop. I am not worried about guard and tackle. They will be fine. But center? Unless Sham, Satterwhite or Lang vastly improves, we are in deep trouble next year.
 
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BigOrangeFanatic said:
Instead of portaling for guys, how about develop the ones you have? It's unbelievable GE has been unable to develop any players that he's recruited to TN in the 4 years hes been here.
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Is it development or poor evals? Both?
 
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BigOrangeFanatic said:
Instead of portaling for guys, how about develop the ones you have? It's unbelievable GE has been unable to develop any players that he's recruited to TN in the 4 years hes been here.
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GE didn't recruit Mays and Spraggins, but who do you think has developed them the last four years?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
lol. Center is arguably just as important as the QB in Heupels system. You can’t just portal experience like Coop. I am not worried about guard and tackle. They will be fine. But center? Unless Sham, Satterwhite or Lang vastly improves, we are in deep trouble next year.
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Satterwhite is the guy next year. There’s no reason so far to think he won’t be up to the task. That said, there will be some drop-off because you’re going from a 5th year senior to a true sophomore.
 
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Dang dude, we just played game 10. The o-line is what they are. Not sure who expectred them to turn around this year, but no worn't happen. Coaching has to figure it out and this year is what it is.
 
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fossilfiction said:
Dang dude, we just played game 10. The o-line is what they are. Not sure who expectred them to turn around this year, but no worn't happen. Coaching has to figure it out and this year is what it is.
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Yes…on track for 10-2 and a likely spot in the playoffs.

You folks make it sound like we are having a losing season.
 
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I'm not sure how much worse it can be when we gave up multiple sacks late in the game when UGA was rushing 3 guys. I specifically remember several plays where 2 OL were just .... standing there blocking air as Nico was sacked.

It's a coaching issue more than anything and teams have been exploiting pre-snap movement, delayed blitzes and stunts to completely bewilder our OL.
 
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Remy said:
then hold on to your hats kids cause just think how much better we'll be without Mays and Spraggins next year.

My tongue has poked a hole through my right cheek.
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Why? Spraggins has been the worst pass protector we have. There are more talented players waiting…they’re just young and undeveloped. Perry, Satterwhite, Ginther, Warren, Anderson, and Umarov are all fantastic prospects. Jeremiah’s Heard is too, but may need more seasoning.

I think next year’s OLine will be better. Because it has more talent. The only position I see a drop off is at Center because Mays is a stud. BUT the staff is high on Satterwhite, so it may not be a huge drop. Think of it as a drop from 2024 Mays to 2021 Mays.

When we lost our entire secondary after 2023, folks were saying we’d be bad back there. But we aren’t. We’re much better. Because we lost mediocre players and replaced them with good players. In the case of the OLine, we’re losing a mediocre RT (to be fair, he was better last year when he was healthy and playing LT), an average RG, and a very good Center. Heard will be back ant LT and should be much improved. Karic could get an extra injury year. I’m excited to turn the page on the OLine.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
lol. Center is arguably just as important as the QB in Heupels system. You can’t just portal experience like Coop. I am not worried about guard and tackle. They will be fine. But center? Unless Sham, Satterwhite or Lang vastly improves, we are in deep trouble next year.
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If the players you mentioned don’t develop by next year, we have wrong OL coach.
 
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farmdogvol said:
GE didn't recruit Mays and Spraggins, but who do you think has developed them the last four years?
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Mays has been the only OL that I'd consider a high level SEC lineman. So if GE gets credit for that, good deal. But Spraggins is not much better than he was 2 or 3 years ago. He's not terrible, but definitely not great either.
 
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EZE said:
Yes…on track for 10-2 and a likely spot in the playoffs.

You folks make it sound like we are having a losing season.
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Hold the phone dude, best go look at my track history before pointing that stupid finger at me. This team is doing better than I thought they would in all honesty. It's ignorant to lump me in with any group becuase I think the line is what they are right now.
 
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Replacing Mays will be an issue. I would expect them to get a C from the TP first and foremost. Satterwhite could take over the C position and overtook Lang before fall camp was over. Heard is the LT for now. It would not surprise me to see them slow roll David Sanders since they are pretty hesitant to play many true Fr. If he can come in over 300 pounds, he might have a chance to break the 2 deep or maybe even start at RT. LJ3 and Perry have a clear advantage there because of their knowledge of the system and hopefully conditioning.

As far as development by GE, Sham will start at one of the G positions. He will be a Junior and was close to starting before he got hurt at the end of Fall Camp.

I also think LJ3 might take over RT. He looked much improved in the few snaps we have seen him imo.

Perry has been lauded but hasn't broken the rotation yet. He could factor in at RT.

Lang may be a good G if they will just let him focus on being one. Brian Grant has also had some buzz around him.

So we will see how the development of GE is looked upon soon enough when the season ends and the TP opens. If they go OL heavy, then I would say there isn't as much faith in his development.
 
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BigOrangeFanatic said:
Instead of portaling for guys, how about develop the ones you have? It's unbelievable GE has been unable to develop any players that he's recruited to TN in the 4 years hes been here.
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It takes forever to develop good OL. It is rare in this league for freshman and arguably sophomores to contribute. Look at UGA's starting line: the youngest player is a RS SO(basically a junior). The rest are RS JRs, so they are on their 4th year.

The strength and size requirements to be a successful OL in the SEC are very high, and is not something you can develop in one year. These kids out of high school need to get to playing weight and shape.

People continuously misunderstand how difficult that is. These guys have to be 300+ lbs of muscle to stop a DT from folding you up, but fast enough to keep up with DEs and LBs blitzing and stunting. Also the wear and tear on joints at that size is significant.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Replacing Mays will be an issue. I would expect them to get a C from the TP first and foremost. Satterwhite could take over the C position and overtook Lang before fall camp was over. Heard is the LT for now. It would not surprise me to see them slow roll David Sanders since they are pretty hesitant to play many true Fr. If he can come in over 300 pounds, he might have a chance to break the 2 deep or maybe even start at RT. LJ3 and Perry have a clear advantage there because of their knowledge of the system and hopefully conditioning.

As far as development by GE, Sham will start at one of the G positions. He will be a Junior and was close to starting before he got hurt at the end of Fall Camp.

I also think LJ3 might take over RT. He looked much improved in the few snaps we have seen him imo.

Perry has been lauded but hasn't broken the rotation yet. He could factor in at RT.

Lang may be a good G if they will just let him focus on being one. Brian Grant has also had some buzz around him.

So we will see how the development of GE is looked upon soon enough when the season ends and the TP opens. If they go OL heavy, then I would say there isn't as much faith in his development.
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Awfully hard for a true freshman to play on the OL in this league. Having weight is one thing. Strength is quite another. Older defensive linemen will bully a big kid right out of HS with superior strength, technique and experience. We've tried it a few times with mixed results. Sanders might be the exception, but I kinda doubt it.
 
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