If I'm the Defensive Coordinator...

[howie87]

I start having the team practice that line shuffle immediately this week and I use it every week for the rest of the year...

I'm not familiar enough with the rules of the college game, but in the NFL you can be flagged an unsportsmanlike penalty for any variation of "simulating the snap", "mimicking cadence" or "disconerting signals"... Those are real things, and what Georgia is doing by barking out stuff and the entire line simultaneously moving is clearly an exploitation of that at the college level...

The only way to get it addressed by the SEC or NCAA is to make it widespread... This should become a part of the practice as soon as humanly possible...

 

[93AllvolSc]

Georgia’s d-line pre snap adjustments are not illegal on any level pee wee to the nfl. Their adjustments worked because were predictable and they exploited our weaknesses and we didn’t adjust to it. It is also a penalty for the defense to feign cadence in NCAA and High school .

 

[tennesseepride84]

Yeah its called disguising your defense... You show the qb thing and you switch to another look typically after seeing the offensive formation, and you know by film study the offense tendencies and which way the play or side of the field the play will flow to switch your look up like that.

 

[howie87]

Georgia’s d-line pre snap adjustments are not illegal on any level pee wee to the nfl. Their adjustments worked because were predictable and they exploited our weaknesses and we didn’t adjust to it. It is also a penalty for the defense to feign cadence in NCAA and High school .

Not buying that as presnap adjustments... Not buying it at all... It's a concerted effort to simulate the snap...

I guarantee you if the Vols start doing it, and then every team starts doing it, it will be adressed by a rules clarification or change during the offseason... The entire defensive line jumping up and barking is not a "defensive adjustment"...

 

[93AllvolSc]

Dude I don’t know what game you watched but I never once saw their line stand up and bark!!! They shifted a gap after JG started his cadence. Teams have been doing it for 50 years . Most abandon it quickly because the oc figures out what their keying on and makes an adjustment .

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Not buying that as presnap adjustments... Not buying it at all... It's a concerted effort to simulate the snap...

I guarantee you if the Vols start doing it, and then every team starts doing it, it will be adressed by a rules clarification or change during the offseason... The entire defensive line jumping up and barking is not a "defensive adjustment"...

You don't have to buy it. It is legal if you don't enter the neutral zone. You can also put 11 defensive players on the Dline if you want to.

 

[TJVol95]

The offensive line is undisciplined. When they all moved and Kennedy was still holding the ball I would have sent Friend to the showers!!

 

[rusty11]

Dude I don’t know what game you watched but I never once saw their line stand up and bark!!! They shifted a gap after JG started his cadence. Teams have been doing it for 50 years . Most abandon it quickly because the oc figures out what their keying on and makes an adjustment .

The linebacker barked and then the line shifted. He timed it with JGs hands. He was simulating the snap count. He may have used a different word, but he called the shift at the same time as JG was in his snap count, the line shifts and our line jumped.

 

[1Big_Orange_Fan]

Dude I don’t know what game you watched but I never once saw their line stand up and bark!!! They shifted a gap after JG started his cadence. Teams have been doing it for 50 years . Most abandon it quickly because the oc figures out what their keying on and makes an adjustment .

Or you snap the ball while they are in the middle of shifting and not set. In any case, our OL was NOT ready.

 

[utvols74]

Or you snap the ball while they are in the middle of shifting and not set. In any case, our OL was NOT ready.

Never can/could figure out why OL/QBs don't do this to take the advantage away from DL doing this. I know there is a "no huddle" offense, but even in a pro-set, you can do this to keep the defense slightly off balance.

 

[JoAllan]

“If I'm the Defensive Coordinator...”

I laugh at the offensive coordinator in every meeting.

 

[tnutater]

I suspect high class Kirby set this up to make Chaney look like a fool.

 

[howie87]

You don't have to buy it. It is legal if you don't enter the neutral zone. You can also put 11 defensive players on the Dline if you want to.

Okay, I think there might be a comprehension issue here on your part... This has nothing to do with the amount of people on the line or people performing football moves presnap on defense... This has to do with simulating the snap of the offense or mimicking the cadence in an attempt to get the offense to false start... Which in big boy football is a legitimate penalty, and just another reason to take college football less serious than the NFL...

 

[37620VOL]

Okay, I think there might be a comprehension issue here on your part... This has nothing to do with the amount of people on the line or people performing football moves presnap on defense... This has to do with simulating the snap of the offense or mimicking the cadence in an attempt to get the offense to false start... Which in big boy football is a legitimate penalty, and just another reason to take college football less serious than the NFL...

I think you have the trouble comprehending.

If it's a legit defensive command/call, it it's by definition, not simulating the snap.

 

[turdherder11]

Id like to see them pull that junk on ole miss. They're crazy fast on offense

 

[howie87]

I think you have the trouble comprehending.

If it's a legit defensive command/call, it it's by definition, not simulating the snap.

What is "legit" gets changed literally every offseason... I would like to see every team do this for the rest of the season and see how "legit" it remains next year...

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Not buying that as presnap adjustments... Not buying it at all... It's a concerted effort to simulate the snap...

I guarantee you if the Vols start doing it, and then every team starts doing it, it will be adressed by a rules clarification or change during the offseason... The entire defensive line jumping up and barking is not a "defensive adjustment"...

I believe some are misunderstanding the shift as simulating the snap. That has occurred for years especially in the NFL. If it is accompanied by something verbal to simulate the Qb’s cadence, then it can be a penalty if the ref’s hear it.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

The linebacker barked and then the line shifted. He timed it with JGs hands. He was simulating the snap count. He may have used a different word, but he called the shift at the same time as JG was in his snap count, the line shifts and our line jumped.

You have to make a verbal noise like the Qb’s cadence with the obvious example being “hut”.

 

[Big Al Orange]

Yeah its called disguising your defense... You show the qb thing and you switch to another look typically after seeing the offensive formation, and you know by film study the offense tendencies and which way the play or side of the field the play will flow to switch your look up like that.

That’s how Memphis beat us when we had Peyton. They did it to perfection and Peyton didn’t have time to audible out so we ran right into their strength.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Would be nice if we had DL that was as athletic, strong and elite as UGAs.

 

[JoAllan]

Do I have to be the defensive coordinator?

Cause I want to be the tight ends coach.

 

[tennesseepride84]

That’s how Memphis beat us when we had Peyton. They did it to perfection and Peyton didn’t have time to audible out so we ran right into their strength.

Exactly... Good memory

 

[GVol1966]

I suspect high class Kirby set this up to make Chaney look like a fool.

Well he succeeded