If I was Fulmer I’d rehire Fulmer

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This would be a controversial choice but would perhaps be the only way to right the ship. Over the last twelve years, the player development has been atrocious. ESPN did a piece comparing recruiting rankings with ultimate draft status four years later and Tennessee’s was rather embarrassing. Games like today are indicative. We have recruited about the same as A&M the last four years but we’re not anywhere near them. Then we listen to the constant refrain yearly of “we’re young we’re young.” We are perpetually young because we don’t seem to develop players and so we have a very small pool of SEC caliber seniors and juniors.

The problem is we have not been able to hire a top quality coach because the culture is broken. I know people thing if we offered $15 million Dabo would come. But he wouldn’t. Seems to me Fulmer should come back and right the ship for five years, develop passable talent, and set the stage for going after a top flight coach when the climate is better. As it stands we just keep hiring our 9th choice and it’s pretty fated not to work. We may not win but if we went 8-5 every year it would at least attract a quality coach when he retires.
 
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We are stuck in the 90s because Phillip Fulmer is our AD. I love him, and I appreciate him stepping in to try to stabilize the Athletic Department, but I don’t think we’ll ever get where we want to go with Fulmer as AD.

We’ll probably end up wishing we’d of not gone back on the Mike Leach deal...
 
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You do understand that he was fired for a reason? As in, he lost seven games twice in three years? As in he had the two worst seasons in nearly twenty years, in three years' time? The slide started with Fulmer, not after him, and he never should have been hired for the AD position, as he has amply proven.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Fulmer already deserved to be fired because of his bad choices regarding Holly Warlick and Pruitt. If the football team also gets NCAA sanctions on his watch there should be no way in Hades he keeps his job.
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You guys didn’t learn your lesson the first time...
 
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Vol8188 said:
Fulmer would be trying to play 90s ball like Pruitt. F that. Give me a guy who knows how to light up score boards. Freeze, Art Briles, Mike Leach someone along those lines.
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I agree about Fulmer playing 90's ball. But I think saying Pruitt was playing that, is pretty generous. It was more like 60's or 70's ball.
 
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Only if Phil gets to keep his AD salary in addition to the millions a year from his new coaching contract. He loves UT.
 
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Most of the guys Fulmer coached against in the Big 90's have all hung up the whistle, Fulmer saw the writing on the wall when some whippersnapper at LSU named Saban outclassed him and outcoached him in the 2001 SEC championship game, costing Fulmer another shot at a national championship, Fulmer hung around way too long, destroyed his coaching career and embarrassed himself in 2008 and has worn out his welcome again as interim AD, football program is a bottom feeder, millions on a staff than won 3 games in a shortened season, red ink everywhere in the athletic department for the next 18 months and the compliance heads are checking credit card receipts and the NCAA is in town talking about topics much more significant than a BBQ on the deck, show cause my arse, show me why Fulmer is still here and then clean house before these clowns burn it down
 
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lifeisdeep said:
You do understand that he was fired for a reason? As in, he lost seven games twice in three years? As in he had the two worst seasons in nearly twenty years, in three years' time? The slide started with Fulmer, not after him, and he never should have been hired for the AD position, as he has amply proven.
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I love how people point to 2 losing seasons in three years, but leave out the fact they fired him the week of the Wyoming game to ensure that second losing season. Hamilton screwed up the way he handled Fulmer and we are still paying for it.
 
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UtahVol said:
This would be a controversial choice but would perhaps be the only way to right the ship. Over the last twelve years, the player development has been atrocious. ESPN did a piece comparing recruiting rankings with ultimate draft status four years later and Tennessee’s was rather embarrassing. Games like today are indicative. We have recruited about the same as A&M the last four years but we’re not anywhere near them. Then we listen to the constant refrain yearly of “we’re young we’re young.” We are perpetually young because we don’t seem to develop players and so we have a very small pool of SEC caliber seniors and juniors.

The problem is we have not been able to hire a top quality coach because the culture is broken. I know people thing if we offered $15 million Dabo would come. But he wouldn’t. Seems to me Fulmer should come back and right the ship for five years, develop passable talent, and set the stage for going after a top flight coach when the climate is better. As it stands we just keep hiring our 9th choice and it’s pretty fated not to work. We may not win but if we went 8-5 every year it would at least attract a quality coach when he retires.
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UtahVol said:
This would be a controversial choice but would perhaps be the only way to right the ship. Over the last twelve years, the player development has been atrocious. ESPN did a piece comparing recruiting rankings with ultimate draft status four years later and Tennessee’s was rather embarrassing. Games like today are indicative. We have recruited about the same as A&M the last four years but we’re not anywhere near them. Then we listen to the constant refrain yearly of “we’re young we’re young.” We are perpetually young because we don’t seem to develop players and so we have a very small pool of SEC caliber seniors and juniors.

The problem is we have not been able to hire a top quality coach because the culture is broken. I know people thing if we offered $15 million Dabo would come. But he wouldn’t. Seems to me Fulmer should come back and right the ship for five years, develop passable talent, and set the stage for going after a top flight coach when the climate is better. As it stands we just keep hiring our 9th choice and it’s pretty fated not to work. We may not win but if we went 8-5 every year it would at least attract a quality coach when he retires.
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You've drank too much lemonade behind the Zion curtain. Fulmer is the one that started this whole downward trajectory. How many jobs was he offered after he was fired? Zip. Zero. Zilch.
 
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lifeisdeep said:
You do understand that he was fired for a reason? As in, he lost seven games twice in three years? As in he had the two worst seasons in nearly twenty years, in three years' time? The slide started with Fulmer, not after him, and he never should have been hired for the AD position, as he has amply proven.
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Bear Bryant, Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno all had losing seasons and were all close to being fired but were given the chance to turn things around. Fulmer earned that right, but Hamilton canned him. It's been a $hit-show ever since. We would have been far better off had we kept Fulmer for a couple of more years at least. He is absolutely a better coach than Mac Brown and look what Mac has done at UNC. I'm not advocating that we hire Fulmer as HC, but we've already done much, much worse--four times!
 
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LAVol1 said:
Bear Bryant, Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno all had losing seasons and were all close to being fired but were given the chance to turn things around. Fulmer earned that right, but Hamilton canned him. It's been a $hit-show ever since. We would have been far better off had we kept Fulmer for a couple of more years at least. He is absolutely a better coach than Mac Brown and look what Mac has done at UNC. I'm not advocating that we hire Fulmer as HC, but we've already done much, much worse--four times!
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Bear Bryant had one losing season, 1954 at Texas A&M, his first season there. He never was in danger of getting fired and is the most popular man in Alabama to this day. Bobby Bowden's last and only losing season at Florida State was his first, in 1976. He was never in danger of being fired there or having to turn anything around for over 30 years. Joe Paterno was 22 seasons and 2 national titles into his Penn State career before his first losing season. His second losing season there was 12 years later in season 34. He was never close to being fired and would have died on the sideline without the scandal.

Fulmer's football coaching career wasn't nearly on par with those three. He had about a 6 year window that was in any way comparable to 20 year stretches they had.
 
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UtahVol said:
This would be a controversial choice but would perhaps be the only way to right the ship. Over the last twelve years, the player development has been atrocious. ESPN did a piece comparing recruiting rankings with ultimate draft status four years later and Tennessee’s was rather embarrassing. Games like today are indicative. We have recruited about the same as A&M the last four years but we’re not anywhere near them. Then we listen to the constant refrain yearly of “we’re young we’re young.” We are perpetually young because we don’t seem to develop players and so we have a very small pool of SEC caliber seniors and juniors.

The problem is we have not been able to hire a top quality coach because the culture is broken. I know people thing if we offered $15 million Dabo would come. But he wouldn’t. Seems to me Fulmer should come back and right the ship for five years, develop passable talent, and set the stage for going after a top flight coach when the climate is better. As it stands we just keep hiring our 9th choice and it’s pretty fated not to work. We may not win but if we went 8-5 every year it would at least attract a quality coach when he retires.
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Please list all the schools that came after Phil when he was fired......(insert crickets)
 
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