If a PSU like thing happend at UT... could u ever

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support your team again?... well I would be pretty ashamed and would demand anyone w even a whiff of this tragedy to be GONE... and then we might talk.
 
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Don't say ever.

It could happen anywhere.

I pray it doesn't happen here.
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If everyone involved was let go, sure. If not, looks like I'll go pro only.
 
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We've had our share of embarrassments too, but fortunately none quite that embarrassing.
 
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What happened at Penn St is a travesty no matter where it happens - college football or else. I can't possibly hate any rival school enough to wish something that putrid on them. The whole situation just turns your stomach inside out
 
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Can't even think about it. There's a special place in hell for people like that.
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Damn near happened at Tennessee with the Baer murder back in 1988.

We had an administration trying to protect a football player's (John Rollins) involvement in the events leading up to and after the murder. Fortunately, there were enough concerned alumni out there to force a shift in direction before things got anywhere close to Penn State's level.

That was a bad year for Tennessee on many fronts.
 
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The fact that there was an attempt to cover it up I don't think I could show my support any longer, unfortunately this is part of the twisted sick world we live in today
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If the molester was turned in immediately... then I would treat it accordingly.

If a cover up that spanned over 10 years(?) was involved, then I will never support UT athletics ever again.
 
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I just don't understand it. As a human being how could you not strike him in the head with a blunt object if you witnessed that type of act with a child.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
Damn near happened at Tennessee with the Baer murder back in 1988.

We had an administration trying to protect a football player's (John Rollins) involvement in the events leading up to and after the murder. Fortunately, there were enough concerned alumni out there to force a shift in direction before things got anywhere close to Penn State's level.

That was a bad year for Tennessee on many fronts.
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I read the story...what exactly was Rollins' involvement?
 
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Can or will the NCAA get involved with this? If so what do you think will happen to Penn state and joe pa
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Yankee_Vol said:
I just don't understand it. As a human being how could you not strike him in the head with a blunt object if you witnessed that type of act with a child.
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Its very unfortunate for the child, and society as a whole, that someone else didn't come across that. For the childs sake, and as strange as it sounds, I wish I had.
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He was with Underwood at the time of the murder and attempted to run off with the knife after the crime.
 
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I don't think my love of the institution itself could ever be tainted, but if something like that happenned here, I'd be demanding heads on a platter. Inaction would mean loading up and goin' huntin' on the Hill. Child molesters deserve the death penalty, and anyone willing to cover it up deserves a very long jail sentence. Not only that, they should be put in general pop and the inmates told what they did. Their lives would be miserable, possibly short, but definately miserable.
 
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It all goes to show that you are one weak link in the chain away from everything going to hell for your university.

At least three men had the opportunity to do the right thing here. All of them categorically failed, damaging the reputation of a great university.

I think this could get worse for Penn State. Sandusky didn't just become a child molester in the 2000s. If he was brazen enough to use Penn State facilities for his activities late in his career, then odds are he was doing it earlier and odds are that more than those involved now knew about it and let it continue.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Can or will the NCAA get involved with this? If so what do you think will happen to Penn state and joe pa
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I think this will eventually tarnish everything Joe Pa did. It seems that, yes, he reported the specific incident he was told about to his superiors. Seemingly, that was his only legal obligation.

However, Sandusky was the defensive coordinator with Paterno for what, a million years? How in the world could Paterno just tell his athletic director of the seamy incident, and not confront Sandusky himself, man to man? How could Paterno simply report this, and then go on with his life like nothing had ever happened? How could he see that no action was being taken by the higher-ups, and just roll out of bed every morning,brush his teeth, and live every day like nothing had happened?

I don't know of any statute that Paterno violated...but that is not the question here. Paterno nurtured a holier-than-thou attitude at Penn State, and did not complain when he was placed on the "my ethics are better than yours" pedestal. He looked down his substantial nose at other colleges who he felt were football factory slums compared to his Penn State. Who was he fooling, besides himself, when he sat comfortably on his pedestal, knowing that his long-time defensive coordinator was a child molester, and he had done nothing to see that justice was done?

Makes you want to throw up, on so many levels.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Can or will the NCAA get involved with this? If so what do you think will happen to Penn state and joe pa
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This is a legal matter far outside the NCAA's jurisdiction. And anyways I would not want to see the players at Penn State punished for the actions of two corrupt administrators and a sicko former coach and alumni. That wouldn't be right.
 
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Voltillyafall said:
I think this will eventually tarnish everything Joe Pa did. It seems that, yes, he reported the specific incident he was told about to his superiors. Seemingly, that was his only legal obligation.

However, Sandusky was the defensive coordinator with Paterno for what, a million years? How in the world could Paterno just tell his athletic director of the seamy incident, and not confront Sandusky himself, man to man? How could Paterno simply report this, and then go on with his life like nothing had ever happened? How could he see that no action was being taken by the higher-ups, and just roll out of bed every morning,brush his teeth, and live every day like nothing had happened?

I don't know of any statute that Paterno violated...but that is not the question here. Paterno nurtured a holier-than-thou attitude at Penn State, and did not complain when he was placed on the "my ethics are better than yours" pedestal. He looked down his substantial nose at other colleges who he felt were football factory slums compared to his Penn State. Who was he fooling, besides himself, when he sat comfortably on his pedestal, knowing that his long-time defensive coordinator was a child molester, and he had done nothing to see that justice was done?

Makes you want to throw up, on so many levels.
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Over on some of the PSU boards they've been speculating that Sandusky's "retirement" was a direct result of that particular incident. In other words, Paterno forced him out of the program...not that it makes any difference...Sandusky continued to abuse children long after his tenure at Penn State came to an end.
 
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barney said:
This is a legal matter far outside the NCAA's jurisdiction. And anyways I would not want to see the players at Penn State punished for the actions of two corrupt administrators and a sicko former coach and alumni. That wouldn't be right.
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Yes, it stretches further than the 'AA, but it still falls under the 'AA in some capacity. If Bruce Pearl and UT received a Lack of Institutional Control, there is no way Penn State shouldn't receive at least that.

Then again, I don't think the 'AA touches this.
 
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