I would like to thank the Supreme Court, the NCAA, the universities, and players and their parents for ruining college football

[SpookyAction]

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Donor and player agree on NIL amount.

Donor from other school offers more just before signing, or just before portal opens. Player jumps ship.

NIL ruins college Florida Gators football.

Errything's the end of it all...until you adjust. Then it ain't. Making billions upon billions with a product yet begrudging relative cents with archaic restrictions for others was never sustainable.

Ding ding

They actually passed a law today saying that players can only transfer once without penalty. Unless a waiver is given for very specific circumstances, players who transfer more than once must sit out. Which I feel like is an improvement

This should help create some stability. One free transfer in 4+ years seems very reasonable.
If a player has to be a mercenary, sitting a year for the 2nd transfer is fair.

 

[cwbytruckers]

Either learn to play the game better than the next team or get off the field and start a new sport. It is what it is. Thankfully UT is a University willing to play the game.

 

[joevol33]

LG crying threads are the best

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I would like to thank all those people in the title for ruining college Florida football.

Because that's what this is really all about.

Go Vols!

 

[cherokeeeVOL]

Either learn to play the game better than the next team or get off the field and start a new sport. It is what it is. Thankfully UT is a University willing to play the game.

Tennessee was very shrewd to get ahead of this with the collective before most major schools decided it was a big deal.

 

[vettefool]

There will be no such thing as loyalty to a program, school, or coach. The best players will force universities into bidding wars. A QB that wins the Heisman as a junior? He'll put himself on the free agency list for the portal the day after the bowls are done. Gone will be the days of sitting in the stands and watching a player progress over 2 to 4 years, maybe 5.

I'm not naive, I know it happened before on a lesser scale when it was not legal to make offers like we see now. But the scope of it now, and the fact that its going to just get worse....

There is no solution. NIL cannot be capped. I don't know, maybe student athletes never really did have much loyalty or allegiance and we romanticized it off the strength of the very few that seemed to embrace it, Peyton Manning, Tim Tebow. But now school fan bases are going to needle each other about how they stole this player or that player.

Time to realize that it was really just all about the show in years past? TV rights, pageantry, fight songs. The whole thing is just so depressing.

I don’t know what’s going to happen in the future but it seems fubar right now.

 

[spacificislander]

I know this is probably a dumb question, but does any NIL money have to go toward tuition/books etc? Are kids getting free-ride scholarships AND NIL money?

I haven't talked to a single person who thinks the NIL thing is a good idea.

No, just like none of the money you earn has to go anywhere.

 

[spacificislander]

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Donor and player agree on NIL amount.

Donor from other school offers more just before signing, or just before portal opens. Player jumps ship.

NIL ruins college football.

Would you jump to a different law firm for double the salary if everything thing else was comparable?

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

This should help create some stability. One free transfer in 4+ years seems very reasonable.
If a player has to be a mercenary, sitting a year for the 2nd transfer is fair.

I don't think this applies to grad transfers so s player can still get 2 if they graduate. It's an improvement, for sure, if they aren't handing out waivers like candy but expecting the NCAA to grow a pair at this point probably isn't a good idea.

 

[GAVol]

There will be no such thing as loyalty to a program, school, or coach. The best players will force universities into bidding wars. A QB that wins the Heisman as a junior? He'll put himself on the free agency list for the portal the day after the bowls are done. Gone will be the days of sitting in the stands and watching a player progress over 2 to 4 years, maybe 5.

I'm not naive, I know it happened before on a lesser scale when it was not legal to make offers like we see now. But the scope of it now, and the fact that its going to just get worse....

There is no solution. NIL cannot be capped. I don't know, maybe student athletes never really did have much loyalty or allegiance and we romanticized it off the strength of the very few that seemed to embrace it, Peyton Manning, Tim Tebow. But now school fan bases are going to needle each other about how they stole this player or that player.

Time to realize that it was really just all about the show in years past? TV rights, pageantry, fight songs. The whole thing is just so depressing.

 

[turbovol]

We will need some serious investigative work into how NIL has been working in practice. How much money are certain players getting; how many players
are getting NIL money; how much are certain schools spending on NIL (via donors); what are the particulars of some/many of the deals--and are both donor and student-athlete fulfilling their contractual obligations; is NIL being used for recruiting purposes (it shouldn't be)--and if so, how widespread is the practice, etc. etc.

I think NIL is mostly (but not entirely) crazy---but everybody needs to see some serious analysis on how it's working in practice. I certainly don't subscribe to this notion that student-athletes getting full scholarships are put upon or being exploited. That, I'd argue, is nonsense. I'd support the idea of paying a student-athlete who's been enrolled in a college for at least a year for any commercial usage of his name, likeness or image--but that's about it. We're talking about players who are already getting more than $200K in academic and other benefits over four years.

All NIL is is further commercialization/professionalization of college sports. The whole "college" and "student" aspects of college athletics has been conveniently forgotten.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

We will need some serious investigative work into how NIL has been working in practice. How much money are certain players getting; how many players
are getting NIL money; how much are certain schools spending on NIL (via donors); what are the particulars of some/many of the deals--and are both donor and student-athlete fulfilling their contractual obligations; is NIL being used for recruiting purposes (it shouldn't be)--and if so, how widespread is the practice, etc. etc.

I think NIL is mostly (but not entirely) crazy---but everybody needs to see some serious analysis on how it's working in practice. I certainly don't subscribe to this notion that student-athletes getting full scholarships are put upon or being exploited. That, I'd argue, is nonsense. I'd support the idea of paying a student-athlete who's been enrolled in a college for at least a year for any commercial usage of his name, likeness or image--but that's about it. We're talking about players who are already getting more than $200K in academic and other benefits over four years.

All NIL is is further commercialization/professionalization of college sports. The whole "college" and "student" aspects of college athletics has been conveniently forgotten.

Please provide extensive details once the investigation is complete.

 

[lawgator1]

No, it was real to a far greater extent than it is now. However, college players also need to understand that--if enough of them communicate the message long enough and loud enough that "it's not personal, we're just mercenaries"--fans, especially those of us who have witnessed the decline of this great sport for decades, may reciprocate with the following message to them: "As much as we enjoy watching our respective teams engage in battle on the gridiron, it is not essential to life. If you choose to exercise no loyalty to the program, we retain the power of the purse string. And, if we collectively choose to stop investing emotionally, let alone financially or through attendance, the college football pipeline slowly dries up and, with it, your route to the NFL."

Agree.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

We will need some serious investigative work into how NIL has been working in practice. How much money are certain players getting; how many players
are getting NIL money; how much are certain schools spending on NIL (via donors); what are the particulars of some/many of the deals--and are both donor and student-athlete fulfilling their contractual obligations; is NIL being used for recruiting purposes (it shouldn't be)--and if so, how widespread is the practice, etc. etc.

I think NIL is mostly (but not entirely) crazy---but everybody needs to see some serious analysis on how it's working in practice. I certainly don't subscribe to this notion that student-athletes getting full scholarships are put upon or being exploited. That, I'd argue, is nonsense. I'd support the idea of paying a student-athlete who's been enrolled in a college for at least a year for any commercial usage of his name, likeness or image--but that's about it. We're talking about players who are already getting more than $200K in academic and other benefits over four years.

All NIL is is further commercialization/professionalization of college sports. The whole "college" and "student" aspects of college athletics has been conveniently forgotten.

Should anyone be able to control the money YOU make from NIL? Can someone control what those Kardashians get paid just to show up somewhere?

No. It's illegal. Nor can a school try to keep a kid from getting paid for their NIL. The NCAA has already lost that case (actually a similar case) in court and can't regulate NIL.

 

[spacificislander]

That's not why there's trouble in the land of jorts. You guys couldn't pay up and now want to blame the system

Did this really happen? Someone came out and said a company offered X for a UF athlete but then didn’t pay?

 

[LadyinOrange]

No, just like none of the money you earn has to go anywhere.

Tell TVEC and Savannah Utilities that. Maybe they'll listen to you.

 

[PandamoniumReigns]

They actually passed a law today saying that players can only transfer once without penalty. Unless a waiver is given for very specific circumstances, players who transfer more than once must sit out. Which I feel like is an improvement

Players will just claim "racism" like that doofus Fields did when he fled GA and be granted a waiver.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Did this really happen? Someone came out and said a company offered X for a UF athlete but then didn’t pay?

Jaden Rashada (Florida Signee) requesting NLI release | VolNation.com

 

[utvolpj]

Did this really happen? Someone came out and said a company offered X for a UF athlete but then didn’t pay?

That's the rumor and he's an EE that isn't in class yet. Their qb room is getting empty

 

[spacificislander]

We will need some serious investigative work into how NIL has been working in practice. How much money are certain players getting; how many players
are getting NIL money; how much are certain schools spending on NIL (via donors); what are the particulars of some/many of the deals--and are both donor and student-athlete fulfilling their contractual obligations; is NIL being used for recruiting purposes (it shouldn't be)--and if so, how widespread is the practice, etc. etc.

I think NIL is mostly (but not entirely) crazy---but everybody needs to see some serious analysis on how it's working in practice. I certainly don't subscribe to this notion that student-athletes getting full scholarships are put upon or being exploited. That, I'd argue, is nonsense. I'd support the idea of paying a student-athlete who's been enrolled in a college for at least a year for any commercial usage of his name, likeness or image--but that's about it. We're talking about players who are already getting more than $200K in academic and other benefits over four years.

All NIL is is further commercialization/professionalization of college sports. The whole "college" and "student" aspects of college athletics has been conveniently forgotten.

Do you think schools are paying companies to pay players? I Think it is all people/businesses paying them. Like Spyre. It’s private donations to a company who then awards NIL deals to athletes. I think they have to be current athletes, but maybe they can have talks about what ifs with recruits.

 

[BenGrimm]

The NFL has a salary cap. Why can’t there be a cap for NIL?

Because there is no cap for endorsements. Nike, Gatorade, Wheaties, etc can pay a player as much as they want. That is what NIL is.

 

[spacificislander]

Tell TVEC and Savannah Utilities that. Maybe they'll listen to you.

You can not pay them they just won’t sell you power anymore. Same with taxes. You could choose to go to jail if you wanted to.

 

[Wezcoast]

I think the way it should be done is every player on the roster, at every school in the same classification , not just the scholarship players , should receive a modest, flat stipend that's adequate to provide the players with some cash for living expenses and reasonable "wants" beyond what scholarships provide . The highest division is a bit more than the one under it etc. No contracts, no special bonuses for star players, just an allowance to spread some of the wealth the universities are making off them. If someone starts slacking and is content to graze in the field while collecting a check, it'll cost them a lot more down the road as it's always been. It would also be more useful application for the NCAA type organization to regulate that , to make sure schools are distributing funds evenly and by the rules. Sure , it's basically planting the seeds for communism , but unchecked capitalism has no place in collegiate sports. It's toxic to everyone involved eventually.

 

[WiseOlVol]

Eligibility should be extended through 2 years of graduate school.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I think the way it should be done is every player on the roster, at every school in the same classification , not just the scholarship players , should receive a modest, flat stipend that's adequate to provide the players with some cash for living expenses and reasonable "wants" beyond what scholarships provide . The highest division is a bit more than the one under it etc. No contracts, no special bonuses for star players, just an allowance to spread some of the wealth the universities are making off them. If someone starts slacking and is content to graze in the field while collecting a check, it'll cost them a lot more down the road as it's always been. It would also be more useful application for the NCAA type organization to regulate that , to make sure schools are distributing funds evenly and by the rules. Sure , it's basically planting the seeds for socialism , but unchecked capitalism has no place in collegiate sports. It's toxic to everyone involved eventually.

Scholarship athletes do get a modest stipend for "living expenses" and have for some time.

The issue is: if all athletes are compensated by the school, aren't they employees? I believe they are. Can't they unionize for a better amount of compensation? I believe they can. Does the university want to share that massive TV revenue? I'm sure they don't.

The school can't start compensating athletes and still claim they aren't employees.