I volunteer to replace Adkins

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Ohio Vol

Ohio Vol

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That's all I'll say.

I remember at two points looking at my lovely wife and asking, "How on earth is a fullback getting a good block while a DT simply walks away from a guard like he's not even there to make the play?"

These are the facts.

1) There is absolutely no actual push on the part of the OL, just a lot of stalemates
2) As a result, the defense has the upper hand. By failing to actually move the feet, the OL is ensuring that no ballcarrier can possibly get past the linebackers. The DLs are simply walking away from blocks and making plays between the first and second level
3) There is no initial pop; it's more like a catch. That also puts the DL in prime position

The real key to General Neyland's maxims is "One good blocker is worth three good ballcarriers". There has never been a championship team in the history of college (or pro) football that has not had an above-average offensive line. Detroit with Matt Millen and Cleveland immediately after expansion proved that you can snap up all the RBs, receivers, and quarterbacks you want, but if the line isn't there, the team goes nowhere.

For there to be UT's offensive line letting defenders walk off of blocks is ridiculous. That's a case of no technique being taught, and as good of a lineman as someone may be, they desperately need to be schooled in fundamentals. Most have no trouble dominating in high school due to the size and strength difference, which simply doesn't happen at the college level.

So for what it's worth, I'm throwing Greg Adkins on the chopping block and throwing my hat in the ring to take over.
 
#3
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kkep48 said:
The OL play is the least of our problems.
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UCLA won largely on the basis of their front four being able to generate tons of pressure, particularly from their DTs.

I didn't see enough of the Florida game (had a wedding to go to.....who the hell plans a wedding on a Saturday during the fall?) to make a statement on that.

And from what I saw today, the defense was swarming all over the OL to the extent that it was not just impeding everything that could be run, but it was disrupting the timing of everything as well.

And I can guarantee that a game in which the OL doesn't perform at a high level the rest of the way will be a loss. That's the nature of football; it's won and lost on the line, and I have yet to see the OL actually come close to an overall draw against the opposing DL.*

*I didn't pay $22 to watch the UAB game, so I won't comment.
 
#4
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We ran the ball better against Auburn today than I thought we'd be able to. Crompton was only sacked once and most of the errant passes he threw were not due to pressure, just the simple fact that his accuracy is pathetic.
 
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kkep48 said:
We ran the ball better against Auburn today than I thought we'd be able to. Crompton was only sacked once and most of the errant passes he threw were not due to pressure, just the simple fact that his accuracy is pathetic.
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LSU did a much better job.
 
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#8
Sen'Derrick Marks and Antonio Coleman are 2 of the best DL in the SEC, both potential 1st round picks. Considering that, I think we had a decent game against them.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
That's all I'll say.

I remember at two points looking at my lovely wife and asking, "How on earth is a fullback getting a good block while a DT simply walks away from a guard like he's not even there to make the play?"

These are the facts.

1) There is absolutely no actual push on the part of the OL, just a lot of stalemates
2) As a result, the defense has the upper hand. By failing to actually move the feet, the OL is ensuring that no ballcarrier can possibly get past the linebackers. The DLs are simply walking away from blocks and making plays between the first and second level
3) There is no initial pop; it's more like a catch. That also puts the DL in prime position

The real key to General Neyland's maxims is "One good blocker is worth three good ballcarriers". There has never been a championship team in the history of college (or pro) football that has not had an above-average offensive line. Detroit with Matt Millen and Cleveland immediately after expansion proved that you can snap up all the RBs, receivers, and quarterbacks you want, but if the line isn't there, the team goes nowhere.

For there to be UT's offensive line letting defenders walk off of blocks is ridiculous. That's a case of no technique being taught, and as good of a lineman as someone may be, they desperately need to be schooled in fundamentals. Most have no trouble dominating in high school due to the size and strength difference, which simply doesn't happen at the college level.

So for what it's worth, I'm throwing Greg Adkins on the chopping block and throwing my hat in the ring to take over.
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Do you think you can coach in the SEC?
 
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The O-line doesn't have a chance. We can't throw the football. Teams put 8 guys to stop the run on 1st and 2nd down then on 3rd and 6 or longer. They pin their ears back and go after crompton who couldn't complete a pass with on one rushing. Crompton isn't a SEC QB. He kills our offense. You can't blame the O-line for throwing the ball 50 ft over recievers heads or throwing a worm burner to a wide open reciever 10 yards down field.

It's sad. But not the O-line.
 
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VOL61 said:
The O-line doesn't have a chance. We can't throw the football. Teams put 8 guys to stop the run on 1st and 2nd down then on 3rd and 6 or longer. They pin their ears back and go after crompton who couldn't complete a pass with on one rushing. Crompton isn't a SEC QB. He kills our offense. You can't blame the O-line for throwing the ball 50 ft over recievers heads or throwing a worm burner to a wide open reciever 10 yards down field.

It's sad. But not the O-line.
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Ditto.
 
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I'm going to agree with Ohio Vol here. Our special teams were a below average many years ago. Rather than improve them, we decided the problem wasn't catastrophic and focused on other thing. Now our special teams are complete garbage. If you aren't getting better, you're getting worse. Our O-Line isn't playing as well as they could be. We've got decent talent there right now. If our next crop doesn't have good talent they'll perform like girls. We need to fix the problem before it gets out of hand. That's a pretty novel concept for this staff.
 
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kptvol said:
I'm going to agree with Ohio Vol here. Our special teams were a below average many years ago. Rather than improve them, we decided the problem wasn't catastrophic and focused on other thing. Now our special teams are complete garbage. If you aren't getting better, you're getting worse. Our O-Line isn't playing as well as they could be. We've got decent talent there right now. If our next crop doesn't have good talent they'll perform like girls. We need to fix the problem before it gets out of hand. That's a pretty novel concept for this staff.
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IMO this is about 65% of out problems, the other 35% you can attribute to a kid who has no mentor, whose mechanics are that of a hs junior with an over-bloated ego, and 1 eyebrow.
 
#18
#18
Our offensive line is awful. Down right bad. That big daddy from Alabama is going to eat someone up come Oct. 25.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
That's what you get when you pitch it to Foster who can't turn a corner to save his life.
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Yeah, that's what happened. Hardesty was tackled behind the line of scrimmage, too. Watch the replay. It's on right now. It's not too hard to see our offensive line wasn't exactly paving the way.
 
#20
#20
I might have just been noticing at the right times, but it seemed like I saw McClendon getting up off his butt 2 yards in the backfield most of the day.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
That's all I'll say.

I remember at two points looking at my lovely wife and asking, "How on earth is a fullback getting a good block while a DT simply walks away from a guard like he's not even there to make the play?"

These are the facts.

1) There is absolutely no actual push on the part of the OL, just a lot of stalemates
2) As a result, the defense has the upper hand. By failing to actually move the feet, the OL is ensuring that no ballcarrier can possibly get past the linebackers. The DLs are simply walking away from blocks and making plays between the first and second level
3) There is no initial pop; it's more like a catch. That also puts the DL in prime position

The real key to General Neyland's maxims is "One good blocker is worth three good ballcarriers". There has never been a championship team in the history of college (or pro) football that has not had an above-average offensive line. Detroit with Matt Millen and Cleveland immediately after expansion proved that you can snap up all the RBs, receivers, and quarterbacks you want, but if the line isn't there, the team goes nowhere.

For there to be UT's offensive line letting defenders walk off of blocks is ridiculous. That's a case of no technique being taught, and as good of a lineman as someone may be, they desperately need to be schooled in fundamentals. Most have no trouble dominating in high school due to the size and strength difference, which simply doesn't happen at the college level.

So for what it's worth, I'm throwing Greg Adkins on the chopping block and throwing my hat in the ring to take over.
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Finally! Someone has taken time to point this out!!!

Whether it was UCLA or Auburn, or one of any game over the past roughly decade, our OL is horribly coached. So often we are not being whipped up front but we are turning people loose. Other times we're just out of position.

When these things happen it isn't a talent problem. A waterboy can at least get in someone's way.

If you remember, the same things happened a lot in games against FL 2006 and Georgia games of the past, to name a few (read...David Pollack coming through clean when they returned a fumble 99 yards in 2003).
 
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#24
i am sure our o line out weighed au by 30 or 40 pounds, so why ut was not getting a better push is beyond my comprehension. Just sayin
 
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