I think we will have over 40 commits

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There is a poster on TOS that i believe has figured out what our plan is with recruiting....

The rule is you can only have 25 signed letters of intent between the months of Feb through may. The rule also has you can't have over 18 Early Entries...

If you have noticed we are going to have a high # of early Entries in this class. The thing is the letter of intent. You can only have 25 per. The LOI protects the school from the kid walking away.... but the rule doesnt seem to apply to grants-in-aid. If they are not publicized between Feb - May period....

We had 4 players sign grants-in-aid this weekend. Hurd, Thomas, Moseley, & Blair. So they would not count towards the 25 LOI rule.... I think we will see several more legacy kids and kids that are going to be EE get grants-in-aid. where this would not protect the school in the kid leaving it would allow you to flip the roster alot more quickly... The thing is the 85 rule still applys to your overall limit....

So alot of kids would have to leave the program...
 
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I would want those guys mentioned to sign a LOI later so they are secured to TN. Get other guys to do that.
 
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You can only have 25 initial counters after EEs are back counted.

If a kid is on a grant and aid they are an initial counter.

This won't work
 
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VOL61 said:
There is a poster on TOS that i believe has figured out what our plan is with recruiting....

The rule is you can only have 25 signed letters of intent between the months of Feb through may. The rule also has you can't have over 18 Early Entries...

If you have noticed we are going to have a high # of early Entries in this class. The thing is the letter of intent. You can only have 25 per. The LOI protects the school from the kid walking away.... but the rule doesnt seem to apply to grants-in-aid. If they are not publicized between Feb - May period....

We had 4 players sign grants-in-aid this weekend. Hurd, Thomas, Moseley, & Blair. So they would not count towards the 25 LOI rule.... I think we will see several more legacy kids and kids that are going to be EE get grants-in-aid. where this would not protect the school in the kid leaving it would allow you to flip the roster alot more quickly... The thing is the 85 rule still applys to your overall limit....

So alot of kids would have to leave the program...
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If we could talk these guys into coming in in August without signing an LOI, would they not count against the NSD rule?

Like, say Joe Henderson didn't sign with anyone, then showed up on campus and was like "Hey; I wanna play football" and we gave him a scholarship, would that work?
 
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NCAA Bylaw 15.5.6.1 limits FBS football programs to a total number of scholarships to 85 "counters" annually including 25 scholarships for "initial counters." Counters (NCAA Bylaw 15.02.3) are individuals who are receiving institutional financial aid that is countable against the aid limitations in a sport, initial counters (NCAA Bylaw 15.02.3.1) are individuals who are receiving countable financial aid in a sport for the first time.





A grant and aid would count as an initial counter regardless if they sign an NLI
 
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So we are agreeing to put them on a scholarship to play here but they are not signing a commitment to play here. We are basically taking them at their word (for lack of a better phrase) right?
 
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The guys signing the Loi now in this year will not count in the feb thru may signing period.In the past u could only sign 25 in any given 12 month period.Thus all our ee and legacys sign now so they wont count against the 25 in feb.Little loop hole.But we can only have 85 total.Its kinda like an early signing period they use in college bball
 
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Kingston Vol said:
If we could talk these guys into coming in in August without signing an LOI, would they not count against the NSD rule?

Like, say Joe Henderson didn't sign with anyone, then showed up on campus and was like "Hey; I wanna play football" and we gave him a scholarship, would that work?
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No. They would have to play 2 years as walk ons not to count
 
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so when the player signs a NLI they sign the GIA as well, since our guys aren't signing the NLI, but the GIA, the limit of 25 NLIs would be able to hold up...
SIAP
 
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This was blogged on NCAA website regarding loophole everyone is talking about. It is only a rumor right now. But if you look at what we are doing I don't see anyway we are not going to have over 30. It is the only thing that makes sense to me.

A Better Oversigning Rule
 
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The rule isn't about 25 NLIs its about 25 initial counters

Grant in aids would be initial counters
 
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by the article you could sign as many GIA as you would like in a given year. But you still have to be under the 85 total. The NLI is 25 per. Everyone on scholarship signs a GIA. But the rule seems to apply to NLI. I know it is confusing.....

But I do not see anyway we are nor going to have more than 30 commits? do you?
 
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