I think CLK may have his QB

#51
#51
volmsbd said:
You can't picture it huh?? BJ has never been given a chance to do anything! He was inserted as the starter in 1 game and micromanaged the entire game, and then forced to throw on third and looooooooooooong...give me a break, do you even watch football???? Just curious...where would you even come up with that assessment?? Was it because your buddy said so?!
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How was BJ micromanaged? He's a player.
 
#52
#52
Mullet said:
I have nothing against McCallie by the way, I was merely being redundant with my comment about him playing against a lot of TN high school teams. McCallie actually has nothing to do with it, so I apologize if you're a McCallie grad.
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I'm not a McCallie grad, but if memory serves me their schedule during Coleman's last couple of years there was formidable. Obviously, they have to play some of the better teams in Tennessee just because of their Division 2 big school status. But they also stepped up and played some of the better programs on the public school side as well.:peace2:
 
#53
#53
How does anybody have a QB for 3 years and not know what the kid is/is not capable of before the first time he steps on the field as a starter.....to throw the ball 45 times on the west coast? Are we serious?

B.J. got the start at Vandy....which means every other play he was not under center bc the two best athletes on the team were called on to run sweeps. Let's see....1st down-Run. 2nd down-Athlete Sweep. 3rd and 5 or more-Redshirt Freshman QB expected to be in a groove? Are we serious?

We simply CANNOT judge what any of the Vol QBs can or can not do based on this year. The one thing that is certain. The player that gets the starting nod before the season opener next year will be, beyond the shadow of a doubt, the best option to lead the Volunteer Offense. Have a nice day.
 
#55
#55
ALLVOL1220 said:
10th rank is impressive however, I think Crompton was ranked #1 on Scout and #2 on Rivals coming out of High School and we have seen how that worked. Who knows though all our qbs may be good, and we just did not have the right people developing them. I think CLK will figure out what is wrong and fix it.
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Crompton was a 5-star recuit and ranked #2 according to Rivals. Stephens had 3-stars and was #15. BJ had 4-stars and was #10.
 
#56
#56
Coaches see far, FAR more snaps of a QB in practice than they do in a game situation. The coaches saw little if any reason to expect Stephens or Coleman to do much better than Crompton. Frankly, none were what you call effective. Coleman still has lots of time to develop so I'm not about to just write the guy off but for the 2008 season Coleman showed nobody anything at any time that made him look like an SEC ready QB.

HS stats and rankings are fine but if Berry couldn't cover or tackle he'd have been on the bench, regardless of his accolades. Of course, he looked great in practice and took that to the field on saturdays. Next year the QB that shows the coaches the most in practice will get the first look at QB...just like last season.

Personally I hope it is Coleman, but he's going to have to convince the coaches, not a bunch of guys typing about who the starter should be in a forum.
 
#57
#57
hndog609 said:
Next year the QB that shows the coaches the most in practice will get the first look at QB...just like last season.
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Out of pure optimism I am going to say that Phil gave preference to Crompton out of pure seniority. Please let this be true. Please let this be true.:angel::angel::angel:
 
#58
#58
I believe in Cuts opinion, and put a lot of weight in it. Also, Coleman had over 300 yds. against Hargrave. I know I know they aren't an SEC caliber opponent, not even close. But the team is filled with D1 prospects waiting for better grades. I think B.J. has a great shot the starting job next season. Let the record show that I still have faith in all three guys and believe they can be molded into a starting qb.
 
#59
#59
Abeachvol said:
i still LMFAO @ anyone that mentions Chumpton as a QB, he is s a FB or HBACK next year
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All players will earn their spot. JC, NS, and BJ are all in year 1 with CLK. All three will get a shot. :good!:


JC has had a new OC every year he has been @ TN. Right? At least 4 now. That is a very hard adjustment for anyone. Now I'm not saying he will be great or anything, but if CLK names him the starter I will support him and cheer my head off for him to succeed. :rock:

And fwiw. Do you guys think if Cut were still here JC would have been a LOT better last year?:whistling:
 
#60
#60
BJ has had Flashes of excellence: JV game this past season. How soon we forget he is an under class player (freshman/ sophmore).
He threw for a lot of yards in that game and earned playing time this past season.
 
#61
#61
orangesox said:
I'm not a McCallie grad, but if memory serves me their schedule during Coleman's last couple of years there was formidable. Obviously, they have to play some of the better teams in Tennessee just because of their Division 2 big school status. But they also stepped up and played some of the better programs on the public school side as well.:peace2:
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You are correct. I went to a game at Finley Colemans senior year. His team was playing the number one ranked team, down by 13 points with like 3 minutes left. He lead them to the victory all through his arm. Maybe he dont have a cannon, but on that game he sure as hell looked like he did. Knowing him personally, I would say his strong leadership qualities would benefit us greatly if Kiffin goes with him. I dont see anyone else outworking him. With all that being said, I still hope we recruit another QB just in case. I dont see Crompton or Stevens ever getting it done.
 
#62
#62
The first order of business for CLK should be to build a good offensive line which we obviously did not have this year. A good OL can make even an average QB look great as in Bama this year. As for the QB situation I think the fact that Coleman was Cut's choice hurt him this year because CPF and Clawson were determined to go a new direction and Coleman never had a chance. CLK has said there will be open competition for all positions will work in Colemans favor and if given a fair shot he will impress. I think Incrompton is "shell shocked" and it will take a year to get him over that. Stephens appeared to yell at WR's on the sidelines when a play went wrong so his attitude may get him. Just MHO.
 
#63
#63
I think it was all in the coaching............. I'm not sure we really know what any of them can do if they have a diffrent coach... Not a nock on Clawson, just that he even admitted they players never understood/bought into the system...
 
#64
#64
It is good to know we are going into the spring this year without a predetermined starter.
Crompton was handed the job last year, because it was his turn. A healthy competition is a good start, toward a better QB.
 
#66
#66
The '08 season cannot be used to effectively judge any of the three present QBs. Fulmer couldn't fix it, didn't even recognize there could be a fix. Clawson brought an overly-complicated system to a big school program, and with Fulmer's bent toward playing mostly juniors and seniors (with some notable exceptions :), the upperclassmen wrote the whole thing off IMO.

Cutcliffe personally picked Coleman, rumor is that he told CPF going out the door that BJ was the best of the three. Fulmer had nothing to go on but Crompton's prior work UNDER CUTCLIFFE, which, while not stellar, was enough to win some games. Neither he nor Clawson could coach up any of them to overcome a team that had, by mid-season, written it all off.

Kiffin sees something, knows something that makes him think he can COACH some productivity into one of our present guys. Let's give them a chance. It's not just the QBs that looked awful; Everyone not named Berry pretty much struggled offensively.
 
#67
#67
Coleman wont see the field at UT again. I dont know why some are so high on Coleman he has showed nothing at all. I think CLK figures Crompton was a high ranked recruit with the physical skill but needs coaching and better line play. He will work with Crompton and win some games next year before our real QB of the future comes next year.
 
#68
#68
k-town_king said:
Coleman wont see the field at UT again. I dont know why some are so high on Coleman he has showed nothing at all. I think CLK figures Crompton was a high ranked recruit with the physical skill but needs coaching and better line play. He will work with Crompton and win some games next year before our real QB of the future comes next year.
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And that might be true also. Except for Chavis, the '08 coaching staff just could not develop and deploy talent.
 
#69
#69
k-town_king said:
Coleman wont see the field at UT again. I dont know why some are so high on Coleman he has showed nothing at all. I think CLK figures Crompton was a high ranked recruit with the physical skill but needs coaching and better line play. He will work with Crompton and win some games next year before our real QB of the future comes next year.
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Your judging him by playing part of one game with our old coaching staff?
 
#70
#70
k-town_king said:
Coleman wont see the field at UT again. I dont know why some are so high on Coleman he has showed nothing at all. I think CLK figures Crompton was a high ranked recruit with the physical skill but needs coaching and better line play. He will work with Crompton and win some games next year before our real QB of the future comes next year.
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I dont know why some are so high on Crapton? He has shown even less with many more chances! I do think that better line play would help any of the 3 QB's, but Im not totaly sold on the fact that Crompton needs ro ever see the field again either!
 
#71
#71
Crompton will be the starter next year. He's the best athlete with the strongest arm of the present group. He is a terror in practice, to the point of being much better than the others, but he's "game shy", and if the coaches can get the offensive line blocking that they need he'll stay the starter. I wish I could see that happening but I don't. My prediction is for another very tough offensive year.
 
#72
#72
68Vol said:
Crompton will be the starter next year. He's the best athlete with the strongest arm of the present group. He is a terror in practice, to the point of being much better than the others, but he's "game shy", and if the coaches can get the offensive line blocking that they need he'll stay the starter. I wish I could see that happening but I don't. My prediction is for another very tough offensive year.
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He is a "terror" on game day....just not in a good way.:banghead2:
 
#73
#73
k-town_king said:
Coleman wont see the field at UT again. I dont know why some are so high on Coleman he has showed nothing at all. I think CLK figures Crompton was a high ranked recruit with the physical skill but needs coaching and better line play. He will work with Crompton and win some games next year before our real QB of the future comes next year.
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Coleman has had absolutely zero chance to show his skills.

Don't even try to say he got his shot this year, the kid never had ANY reps to speak of with the first team. He was almost strictly used for the scout team.

I say give this kid a chance, at least he showed some poise (especially for a kid who wasn't up to speed on the offense).
 
#74
#74
Well if he remains the starter then I hope the dirt is ready to catch a lot of balls!
 
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