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Business said:
I would pay good money, I'm talking Pay-Per View Heavyweight prize fight good money to see Bob Knight rip into the ass of some of the media in Knoxville.

A little morning show question gone wrong BOOOOOOOOM! Mickey Dearstone's ass on the ropes with The General.
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Oh yes.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Keep crawfishing, hat...

Meanwhile, you have done nothing to shoot down my point that athletic departments in general should be treated as businesses... and that if you have certain areas that are not performing well enough to bring in a profit, they should be purged.


Now which is it, hat? Are we gonna let rich kids earn scholarships off the backs of the likes of Gerald Jones, Eric Berry and Brandon Warren... or do you agree that rich kids that play golf, swimming, tennis, and cross country need to a) generate some revenue for their sports and/or b) if they can't do that, then they need not feed off of the sweat that football players/basketball players bring in and fold their tents.

Really not that hard of a concept. If your goal is to attack me, fine. But if you actually want to address the point that I was making (which we both agree on), then I would be happy to hear your spin. Otherwise, STFU and just admit that you were wrong to attack me.
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Again, don't delude yourself into thinking I agree with you on anything. As far as attacking you, no assault on you is ever without justification.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
WTF does an athletic department do for a university like Vanderbilt, Rice, or Stanford? It may add a little in terms of quality of life (a little)... but in terms of what makes a kid choose between Tennessee and Duke, Vandy, Stanford, or Georgia... I'm sure that in the end, a kid (or their parents) is not gonna chose a school based on their football team's record...


Again, where do we differ in terms of treating an athletic department like a business?
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Apparently, the brilliant minds at those schools find athletics pretty important. Does any school field teams in more sports than Stanford? Also, if athletics don't influence students, why has Davidson experienced a massive increase in applications this cycle? I believe it's about time to open the gates to Ignoreland again.
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hatvol96 said:
Apparently, the brilliant minds at those schools find athletics pretty important. Does any school field teams in more sports than Stanford? Also, if athletics don't influence students, why has Davidson experienced a massive increase in applications this cycle? I believe it's about time to open the gates to Ignoreland again.
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So that is a justification for having an athletic department... to increase the number of $50 applications it receives? Not arguing that Davidson may have experienced an increase in applications... maybe it did. But if winning on the court directly impacts applications sent in for an university, then does that mean the the converse is true? How many years has it been since Davidson has received this kind publicity... 10...15... 20 years at least? Since the days of Gerald Wilkens and Mr. Jennings in the Southern Conference haydays in the mid 80's early 90's? Are you telling me that it makes good business since for them to grind it out for so many years until this past year just so they could see a bump in applications?

If winning on the field is needed to boost the amount of $50-100 applications at a school, then Vanderbilt, Rice or Miss. State for that matter wouldn't have anybody applying there.
 
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If we end up 6-6 this season, I'm assuming nobody will want to come to UT next year if we use your argument.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If winning on the field is needed to boost the amount of $50-100 applications at a school, then Vanderbilt, Rice or Miss. State for that matter wouldn't have anybody applying there.
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Their success in basketball boosted applications due to the exposure on television which was at no cost of Davidson. Considering they get about 4000 applicants per year and only a quarter get accepted. Unless they plan to expand enrollment, the acceptance rate just decreased.
 
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I'd say more applicants generally increases the quality of your student body which increases the prestige of the university. Take a look at what has happened at USC since carroll got there when it comes to the quality of the student body and alumni giving. During the hackett era they were literally begging the alumni to get their kids to apply to fill their freshman class. Now the student body's sat scores are comparable to UCLA or Cal.
 
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droski said:
I'd say more applicants generally increases the quality of your student body which increases the prestige of the university. Take a look at what has happened at USC since carroll got there when it comes to the quality of the student body and alumni giving. During the hackett era they were literally begging the alumni to get their kids to apply to fill their freshman class. Now the student body's sat scores are comparable to UCLA or Cal.
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It's always good to see some of the other posters live in reality.
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droski said:
I'd say more applicants generally increases the quality of your student body which increases the prestige of the university. Take a look at what has happened at USC since carroll got there when it comes to the quality of the student body and alumni giving. During the hackett era they were literally begging the alumni to get their kids to apply to fill their freshman class. Now the student body's sat scores are comparable to UCLA or Cal.
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Are there not other ways to increase the quality of life besides athletics? I wonder how the Ivy League is able to maintain their prestige and student life when athletics are essentially put on the backburner...

You may have 25-35 or so prgrams out of 120 that actually make money (according to some of you guys). Too me, if your goal is to improve the quality of life or boost applications, there are other ways of more efficiently doing that for the other 90 or so programs out there that are operating in the red.
 
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droski said:
I'd say more applicants generally increases the quality of your student body which increases the prestige of the university. Take a look at what has happened at USC since carroll got there when it comes to the quality of the student body and alumni giving. During the hackett era they were literally begging the alumni to get their kids to apply to fill their freshman class. Now the student body's sat scores are comparable to UCLA or Cal.
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Good point.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Are there not other ways to increase the quality of life besides athletics? I wonder how the Ivy League is able to maintain their prestige and student life when athletics are essentially put on the backburner...

You may have 25-35 or so prgrams out of 120 that actually make money (according to some of you guys). Too me, if your goal is to improve the quality of life or boost applications, there are other ways of more efficiently doing that for the other 90 or so programs out there that are operating in the red.
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not ways that actually make money or dramatically increase alumni giving.
 
#68
#68
today's show sounds like they're broadcasting from Hyams' basement. or they're doing the show from their cell phones.
 
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