Hugh Freeze mega thread and poll [merged]

Do you want Tennessee to hire Hugh Freeze?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1,219 77.4%

  • No

    Votes: 360 22.9%
  • Total voters
    1,574
#3,401
#3,401
BigOrangeMojo said:
Sankey did NOT give green light in 2018 or 2019 since Ole Miss was still on probation. Multiple national sources, SC sources, AL.com have all reported that USCe vetted Freeze and the SEC office would not block the hire
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Dennis Dodd at CBS is the only person I saw that reported that (and AL.com story on Auburn referenced his report but did not independently report it). The South Carolina 247 site and the SC beat reporter from the Athletic both said it wasn't true and that the school's list did not include Freeze.

Dodd also said Freeze was the frontrunner at Auburn and they didn't even interview him. Dodd got played by Jimmy Sexton on that one.
 
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#3,402
BigOrangeMojo said:
Sankey did NOT give green light in 2018 or 2019 since Ole Miss was still on probation. Multiple national sources, SC sources, AL.com have all reported that USCe vetted Freeze and the SEC office would not block the hire
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Yep,
Just caught up.

Could Hugh Freeze soon be back in the SEC?

"A Freeze hire would still require a conversation with Sankey, who through SEC bylaws has additional oversight of any prospective hire that has “engaged in unethical conduct as defined under NCAA Bylaws or who has participated in activity that resulted, or may result, in a Level I, Level II or major infraction.”

I still made the point that Sankey (SEC) does have the final say, and you sure did not need to yell that I was wrong on the greenlight not getting approved back then.
 
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#3,403
DeerPark12 said:
Dennis Dodd at CBS is the only person I saw that reported that (and AL.com story on Auburn referenced his report but did not independently report it). The South Carolina 247 site and the SC beat reporter from the Athletic both said it wasn't true and that the school's list did not include Freeze.

Dodd also said Freeze was the frontrunner at Auburn and they didn't even interview him. Dodd got played by Jimmy Sexton on that one.
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AL.com ran with this even before Dodd. Given AL.com's reputation as the "media operations group" for the SEC and University of Alabama, this type of story doesn't get published with "sources" unless it received blessing from the SEC office.

Could Hugh Freeze soon be back in the SEC?

Auburn would have been a bad fit for Hugh. A school with a reputation for being dirty plus a coach with NCAA issues plus their biggest rival having unprecedented compliance pull.
 
#3,404
#3,404
If The NCAA and the SEC are blocking A freeze hire, then why is he allowed to coach college football in the first place? The whole “ blocking” story doesn’t add up to me.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
South Carolina never made contact with Freeze, and certainly never contacted the SEC about him. South Carolina's president would not allow their search committee to even contact anyone wit prior NCAA issues.

Auburn may have made a call, he wasn't on the school's list, but he had the support of some boosters.

AL.com may have reported that, but it's not what the rule that the Presidents approved three years ago says. That rule had nothing to do with the length of sanctions at the previous school.
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The cynic/contrarian in me says the USCe President is extremely unpopular this might have been him setting expectations real low and doing some proactive PR. Taking Freeze out of play due to prior NCAA issues but interviewing Chadwell who has had prior NCAA issues doesn't add up here.
 
#3,407
#3,407
I can’t possibly fathom that freeze would leave his job at liberty for an oc position. And with a total control freak/D-bag of a boss to boot. Lane kiffin exposed what we all assumed to be the case in that all the assistants there work like Chinese kids in a Nike factory there (if by chance Lebron James reads this comment maybe he can go do a little research on what that’s like). Literally I would bet the house that there’s no chance that could happen. Freeze doesn’t need to be rehabbed in the same way that kiffin or sark did. He’s got a great gig and is in an amazing spot
 
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de1conley said:
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Do you not know that SEC and NCAA told Saban he couldn't hire Freeze even as a analyst? Also that Auburn was told they couldn't hire Freeze whonwas their top choice? Also Liberty pays him handsome so why would he leave to go be OC? Smdh
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I don’t believe that to be true. I don’t know al the ends an out of what the ncaa did or didn’t say (and neither does anyone else) but when coaches are given show causes they usually only last a year or 2. I doubt the sec would go way above and beyond what the ncaa would do. And obviously he’s fine with the ncaa. I think the sec trying to bar a guy that hasn’t even coached in the conference for 4 years from accepting a job is ridiculous. I don’t ever recall they barring any coach and there are tons of guys that have gotten in trouble with the ncaa and ended up at high profile sec gigs. Hell both Bruce pearl coach cal have had major issues.
I think South Carolina never had a chance at landing him so they didn’t even try and I think auburn did put out feelers with him but that he kinda told there he wasn’t interested. Jmo
 
#3,412
#3,412
DeerPark12 said:
He was vetted for the UT OC job after the 2018 season and was not greenlit at that point.
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DeerPark12 said:
Nobody took me up on it. I stand by what I said yesterday, if Freeze is hired, that means Fulmer, Plowman and Boyd are all gone and whoever has replaced them is ok with losing two or more seven-figure donors.
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Seems odd that we would have risked losing all this for Freeze to be OC.
 
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madbamahater said:
Once again our hopes will be shattered at a chance to hire a proven winner and offensive genius when Saban hires Freeze to replace Sark.

Bama is the place for coaches to go rehab themselves and Saban is paid the dividends along the way.

Time and time again this has been the case and when lord Saban hires Freeze all the negatively goes away surrounding Freeze. Because, no one is willing to or able to question Saban's decisions. Just like when he was able to coach 2 days after being Covid positive while looking very physically ill on the sidelines......

But in the end, UTs rivals get better and UT gets worse.....
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I’d say you have jumped the proverbial shark with this one.
 
#3,414
#3,414
There’s 2 things you knuckleheads haven’t brought up in this thread:
1. What if Freeze gets the coach in waiting tag at Alabama. That may be the whole reason he goes there.
2. I don’t think Scott Strickland, former AD at Mississippi State while freeze was the HC at ole miss would hire Freeze. I think there’s still bad blood there.
 
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#3,415
LittleVol said:
Hugh Freeze at UF is a terrible nightmare.
Because I honestly think he's a tad better coach than Mullen and far superior recruiter.

Hugh Freeze at UT ...could be what Tennessee could have been if Spurrier coached in Knoxville in the 1990s-2000s.
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Wonder how he recruited so well at Ole Miss?
 
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de1conley said:
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Do you not know that SEC and NCAA told Saban he couldn't hire Freeze even as a analyst? Also that Auburn was told they couldn't hire Freeze whonwas their top choice? Also Liberty pays him handsome so why would he leave to go be OC? Smdh
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This is 100% incorrect

The NCAA isn't blocking anything or he wouldn't be at Liberty and the SEC isn't blocking any school from hiring Freeze now.

Auburn never talked to Freeze, that was a cluster because 2 boosters operated in the dark, got Gus fired and then tried to insert Steele.
 
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madbamahater said:
Once again our hopes will be shattered at a chance to hire a proven winner and offensive genius when Saban hires Freeze to replace Sark.

Bama is the place for coaches to go rehab themselves and Saban is paid the dividends along the way.

Time and time again this has been the case and when lord Saban hires Freeze all the negatively goes away surrounding Freeze. Because, no one is willing to or able to question Saban's decisions. Just like when he was able to coach 2 days after being Covid positive while looking very physically ill on the sidelines......

But in the end, UTs rivals get better and UT gets worse.....
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Hat would be great for us. It would remove him as anathema of ever coaching in the SEC. One more season with Pruitt and then hire Freeze. It would be brilliant.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Freeze was not a candidate at Auburn or South Carolina in part because the feeling behind the scenes is still that the SEC will not approve his hiring in the conference at this point. It prevented him from being an analyst at Bama three years ago and from being an OC two years ago.
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At this point in time I don't see how the sec can prevent a school from hiring Freeze; because of the time that has gone by since his infractions. My understanding of the situation is he is no longer under anything that would prevent him from being hired by any school who would want to hire him.
 
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#3,419
GAVol said:
Wonder how he recruited so well at Ole Miss?
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Good point. And honestly THAT happens everywhere.
Obviously our current situation lends to that.

At Florida he'd have a much easier time imo. Same thing if he were in Tennessee. Better local talent at either spot.
 
#3,420
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BigOrangeMojo said:
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This still does not say, a school cannot hire who they want, just that they consult with the commissioner. When the school he was at is no longer under sanctions, then that coach is cleared to coach again. Imo Sec cannot tell any school who they can and cannot hire. This would be a major lawsuit anytime a coach is no longer under any sanctions and a conference or ncaa would prevent them from being hired. Cap, at Ky basketball, Pearl at Auburn, those are two I can think of now. Patrino to Lousiville. When Sec supposedly would not ok the hire of Freeze to bama, it was because Ole miss was still under sanctions, which is totally different than it is now.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
You can think whatever you want about it, but it's reality. In fact, it's a conference rule.

Four years ago, the SEC presidents voted to approve a rule where if a school wanted to hire a coach in any sport that had received a show cause or had been found to have committed NCAA Level 1 violations, the school would have to apply to the Commissioner for approval to hire that person.

When Alabama wanted to bring in Freeze as an analyst, he was rejected because of this rule. When he actively pursued the Tennessee and Auburn OC jobs two years ago, the schools were reminded of the policy by the conference office. The rule has also prevented Art Briles from joining two different SEC staffs.
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How did Bruce Pearl get back in the SEC ? He had a show cause
 
#3,422
#3,422
DeerPark12 said:
Freeze was not a candidate at Auburn or South Carolina in part because the feeling behind the scenes is still that the SEC will not approve his hiring in the conference at this point. It prevented him from being an analyst at Bama three years ago and from being an OC two years ago.
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Was the CBS report the Freeze had been vetted and would likely be cleared by the SEC bunk? *Edit* I see you addressed this above.

Also, should we read anything into Pruitt not having filled his vacancies yet?

Thanks
 
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volnthesip said:
There’s 2 things you knuckleheads haven’t brought up in this thread:
1. What if Freeze gets the coach in waiting tag at Alabama. That may be the whole reason he goes there.
2. I don’t think Scott Strickland, former AD at Mississippi State while freeze was the HC at ole miss would hire Freeze. I think there’s still bad blood there.
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He's still taking a substantial pay cut and has to go back to a coordinator position rather than being a HC at a FBS school. And that is still taking a big risk that he can be fired for performance, unless there is something specifically written into his contract that he is guaranteed the HC job once Saban leaves (which is super unlikely).
 
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