How many years should Kiffin be given to win an SEC Championship?

How many years should Kiffin be given to win an SEC Championship?

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Fulmer's contract got bought out after 10 years without an SEC championship, how many years is reasonable to give Kiffin to win an SEC championship?
 
#5
#5
4 years is the norm. If he sends off this recruiting class without an SEC Championship or BCS bowl bid, it might get ugly.
 
#6
#6
I think it comes before we think it will 2-3 years.
with the assembled coaching staff and the work ethic they enforce why should I think different.
With CUM's attraction to challenges i can see him bolting for ND in the future and leaving florida high and dry.
I have always thought that when Tebow, Percy, Rainey, and Demps and Spikes all bolt for the leagues he will say well boys its been fun. and he will be introduced as the new ND coach.
I know hes come out and said he doesent want the job but another coach said they didnt want a job and wasnt even considering it until the next day during the press conference.
With the money that ND has and as money hungry as he is how could he turn it down, they have all the talent and great tradition they just need the perfect fit and hes thier answer so when CCW gets the boot, Urbans gonna have a hard time turning down the truck loads of money they will dump on his fromt lawn.
Just my opinion.
 
#8
#8
I voted six because if remember correctly his contract is for six years, but i think we won't have to weight nearly that long. I think we get one by year 3. No matter what happens on Wednesday, I believe next years class will be top 5, and after that things will get even better. I think this year just the fact that we got some of these kids to visit was a big accomplishment. I believe we may be all be pleasantly surprised come Wednesday night.:good!:
 
#9
#9
I think by year 4 we should be in the SEC Championship game!

Im not going to count this recruiting class completely towards him because he got in so late & wasnt able to recruit his own guys, but by year 4 the whole roster should mostly be his players, so by year 4 we will see just how great he truly did recruit & how much these coaches have developed the players.
 
#10
#10
Next year, and have at least 4 players drafted in the first round of the NFL draft and at least one player dating a reality bimbo.
 
#11
#11
If there is steady improvement each year, I would be fine with as much as 5 or 6.
 
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Doc_Vol said:
I voted six because if remember correctly his contract is for six years, but i think we won't have to weight nearly that long. I think we get one by year 3. No matter what happens on Wednesday, I believe next years class will be top 5, and after that things will get even better. I think this year just the fact that we got some of these kids to visit was a big accomplishment. I believe we may be all be pleasantly surprised come Wednesday night.:good!:
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Dang, I am glad we won't have to weight that long...LOL.
 
#15
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Doc_Vol said:
I voted six because if remember correctly his contract is for six years, but i think we won't have to weight nearly that long. I think we get one by year 3. No matter what happens on Wednesday, I believe next years class will be top 5, and after that things will get even better. I think this year just the fact that we got some of these kids to visit was a big accomplishment. I believe we may be all be pleasantly surprised come Wednesday night.:good!:
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I am glad we won't have to weight that long...LOL.
 
#16
#16
It will take three years just to restock the talent particularly on the O and D lines and get that new talent beyond Fr year. That means 2011 is the earliest realistic year for us to compete for a championship.

2009: recovery from the wreck that was the final Fulmer years
2010: restock with great recruiting class and lots of OL and DT. There will be a lot of Freshman playing in key positions...tough year
2011: All that 2009 and 2010 talent now So and Jr and ready to compete
2012+: Get the butter 'cause this program is on a roll!!!
 
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Urban set the bar. Saban got his team into the sec championship game in two years. These are the standards that have been set, fair or not. In 3 years time if this team isn't at least holding their own against the big boys of the sec, then its time for him to ride out of town. Seldom are coaches given 4 or 5 years anymore to build a team. This isn't a ground up project. There is enough talent although thin at spots to compete now. Mostly i want to see a team that doesn't kill itself, cut out the sloppiness we've seen for several years. Its great to have all these supposed great recruiters, but at some point these guys have to prove they can coach, monte kiffin excluded from that thought. That man has nothing to prove, but his son does.
 
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VolinDawgland said:
It will take three years just to restock the talent particularly on the O and D lines and get that new talent beyond Fr year. That means 2011 is the earliest realistic year for us to compete for a championship.

2009: recovery from the wreck that was the final Fulmer years
2010: restock with great recruiting class and lots of OL and DT. There will be a lot of Freshman playing in key positions...tough year
2011: All that 2009 and 2010 talent now So and Jr and ready to compete
2012+: Get the butter 'cause this program is on a roll!!!
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That's about right. I'd add QB and RB (along with OL and DT) to 2010 recruiting priorities. I think we have to go JUCO for the DT's, but we'll be okay with Frosh for the others.
 
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Cartervol said:
Urban set the bar. Saban got his team into the sec championship game in two years. These are the standards that have been set, fair or not. In 3 years time if this team isn't at least holding their own against the big boys of the sec, then its time for him to ride out of town. Seldom are coaches given 4 or 5 years anymore to build a team. This isn't a ground up project. There is enough talent although thin at spots to compete now. Mostly i want to see a team that doesn't kill itself, cut out the sloppiness we've seen for several years. Its great to have all these supposed great recruiters, but at some point these guys have to prove they can coach, monte kiffin excluded from that thought. That man has nothing to prove, but his son does.
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Both Alabama and UF's programs were in much better shape when Saban and Urban started. They also benefit from great in-state talent. CLK will not match their benchmarks, nor should we expect that. However, in three years, we'll compete with UF (Urban will be at ND) and in 4 or 5 (the UT/Bama rivalry will be the top game in the country for NC consideration).

LSU is already dead the water as Miles is the sequel to Larry Coker. CMR is the new CPF. UGA will not be in the mix as we'll be dominating them, again.
 
#23
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Cartervol said:
Urban set the bar. Saban got his team into the sec championship game in two years. These are the standards that have been set, fair or not. In 3 years time if this team isn't at least holding their own against the big boys of the sec, then its time for him to ride out of town. Seldom are coaches given 4 or 5 years anymore to build a team. This isn't a ground up project. There is enough talent although thin at spots to compete now. Mostly i want to see a team that doesn't kill itself, cut out the sloppiness we've seen for several years. Its great to have all these supposed great recruiters, but at some point these guys have to prove they can coach, monte kiffin excluded from that thought. That man has nothing to prove, but his son does.
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Urban has set no standard or bar. Kiffin will need at least three years.
 
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utmba93 said:
Both Alabama and UF's programs were in much better shape when Saban and Urban started. They also benefit from great in-state talent. CLK will not match their benchmarks, nor should we expect that. However, in three years, we'll compete with UF (Urban will be at ND) and in 4 or 5 (the UT/Bama rivalry will be the top game in the country for NC consideration).

LSU is already dead the water as Miles is the sequel to Larry Coker. CMR is the new CPF. UGA will not be in the mix as we'll be dominating them, again.
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Alabama had a qb and a good offensive line. They were in better shape from those perspective's. They were thin everywhere else, much like we are now. Bama benefitted from a weak west last year also, a luxury kiffin won't have in the east. I'm not expecting miracles, but i do expect that we at least compete and not lose to teams like wyoming. The jury is still out on kiffin. I've heard him talk for two months, now i want him to show me something.
 
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golf437 said:
Urban has set no standard or bar. Kiffin will need at least three years.
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Not expecting kiffin to equal those tasks, but whether you like it or not it will be brought up, especially if he doesn't meet everyones lofty expectations, fair or not.
 
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