How many points scored is "good offense" & how many points given up is "good defense"?

#27
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37620VOL said:
My current theory is points per possession. Over 3 points per possession is good offense, and under 2 PPP is good defense. This is just my theory.
How do you judge our offensive and defensive performance?


Other crap I find interesting:
1. This is a really cool site for points per drive data, they adjust for starting field position and remove garbage drives: BCF Toys - 2021 Points Per Drive
2. In 2021 we scored 2.9 PPP on offense (Good Enough) and gave up 2.5 PPP on defense (Not Good Enough).
3. In 2022 the numbers are boosted by Akron and Ball St, but we are at 4 PPP on offense and 1.6 on defense.
4. Based on my math, the offense was 2.4 PPP against Pitt (Bad) and 4.22 against UF (Awesome).
5. The defense was 1.9 PPP against Pitt (Very Good) and 3.3 against UF (Very Bad).
6. We are averaging about 12 possessions per game in 2022, which feels low. 12 is roughly the average number of possessions in an NCAA football game.
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#6 surprises me and it doesn’t. We’ve not been the best Q1 team like last year. And as tremendous as Hooker has been, he’s had to settle down in the first half in big games so far. Think the rust is off and LSU could be really close but I’ve got a feeling it’s not going to be a fun day for the home crowd.
 
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#28
#28
With the type of style of offense we play, we add multiple possessions per game for each team. As a result, stats can be a bit misconstrued and not a good comparison from one team to the next. But to answer your question, as for offense most teams expect us to score at least 30 points on them. So with that in mind, 40+ points would indicate a great game. 35 points is kind of where we look to be against tough opponents.

On defense, I'm mostly concerned with how we perform on 3rd and 4th down. That is where we need major improvement. We are built on our offense, so the goal is to get them back the ball as much as possible. The other team scoring stinks, but we can keep up in a shootout. Its when the other team is able to sustain long, time consuming drives that they shorten the game and put pressure on our offense to execute perfectly. But if you want a number, I think anything under 25 points is a good showing for the defense.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Um no. The first question is how many pints scored is considered a good offense right? Your answer of any total that’s more than the other teams total. Well that’s not exactly true. Let’s say we beat LSU 10-7. But LSU has more total offensive yards then we do? How would consider our offense to be good?
Same with question #2. Let’s take the UK game last year and this years Florida game. We won both however we gave up 612 yards against UK and 594 yards against UF. Taking those stats into consideration, how could you say that our defense was good in either game?
You can win games when either your offense or defense has a bad day.
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You: The first question is how many pints scored is considered a good offense right?
Me: No. I pretty sure he said points. It's a football game, not a drinking contest, honest.

You: Taking those stats into consideration, how could you say that our defense was good in either game?
Me: We won. However, dismal defense played, they were just barely good enough for us to win. Taking the Kentucky game you refer, the very last play was our defense bringing the house in an all out effort to neutralize Will Levis. They got him, and thus made our points (not pints) good enough for us to win the game.

If winning isn't everything, why do you keep score? --Vince Lombardi--
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#32
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LSU game results
Offense 3.64 points per possession VERY GOOD
Defense 1.3 points per possession OUTSTANDING

Offense had 12 total possessions but I removed one garbage possession for the kneel-down at the end. So 11 meaningful possessions.
Defense had 10 total possessions (the stolen possession on the kickoff does not reward them).

I won't call us a ball control offense just yet but we continue to be at or under the average number of possessions per game, which is generally believed to be 12.
We also ran the ball 75% of the time in the second half.
 
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