How far have we fallen...

#26
#26
How far....So far we are wondering if we can beat a badly depleted Vandy that just fired their coach 2 weeks ago.

I was a Vol fan when Bowden Wyatt was the coach and attended my first game in a much smaller Neyland Stadium in 1958....Had season ticket during lean years before Majors and after until 1996.....My give a damn is lower than at any point in all those years. In all those years I/we felt there was light at the end of the tunnel....There is no light in that tunnel for me anymore....It's total darkness.
At least in some of those years we would pull it together and beat some good teams
 
#35
#35

I asked in another thread, but you didn't answer, so I'll ask here.
Are you saying "vowel fans" on purpose or are the fat thumbs and spell checker getting the best of you?
Reason I ask, is this is the second time I've noticed you do this in a couple of days.
Just curious if this is an accident or on purpose, and if on purpose, what's the purpose.
Thanks, and I'll hang up and listen.
 
#42
#42
Tennessee can flip this thing pretty quick with the right hire like a Freeze hire or even a Matt Campbell one. Pruitt was a terrible hire from the start. There is more talent on the roster now than Pruitt’s first season but he is wasting it and some may transfer out and this top 5 recruiting class is imploding. I’m not sure Pruitt was even a great DC he coached at teams loaded with talent far more than we had when was hired. You can argue he needs another season with all the Covid issues and economically we aren’t in the position to fire him but I would disagree he’s done a awful enough job to get fired this season and he could very well lose to Vandy this Saturday.

Yes, but we've also been saying this a decade now. And the "Pruitt was a terrible hire from the start" is some revisionist history. Not necessarily from you, but from this board collectively. The collective thinking overall here was Pruitt was "the man" because we "finally got a real football coach".
 
#43
#43
The saddest part IMO is we've become what we used to make fun of other fanbases for. We used to laugh at other fanbases for their delusions on turning it around quickly, for thinking they were better than they actually were, for thinking they were more important than they actually were, for rationalizing losses and "coulda woulda shoulda", and the biggest for living on past glory. And yet that's exactly what we are now.

We essentially switched places with Georgia. And yeah Georgia still has gone longer without winning a National Championship than we are, but 3 years ago they were an OT away from winning it, and they've won 3 SEC Championships since we last won ours and won the division 5 times since we last did. They're in a hell of a lot better position than we are.
 
#44
#44
There was a time that the Bama, Florida, Georgia knew that a game with us was going to be a battle and it could go either way. Now they sneer at us and no longer consider us a rival. Living in GA, it gets irritating getting beat every year. I was shouting at the top of my lungs when Dobbs threw the Hail Mary -- the Dobb-nail boot scenario.

Nowadays, GA State, KY and Ark beat on us. We're not even held in high regard in the state of TN.

Did I mention that even Vandy has beaten us soundly in some games over the course of a few years? Pathetic.

A losing team has to straighten up after the 2nd straight loss or else apathy sets in and losing becomes the norm. The fight is taken out of the team.

This is where we are now. No power in our punches. You have to go to the top (HC) to see where the problem lies and where it can be fixed. A culture of losing is a part of the TN tradition now. When was the last time we saw a 10-win season? Ranking in the top 10?

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#47
#47
A big win over the Vandy women’s soccer team should propel us to a bowl game this year
 
#49
#49
Hugh Freeze had a losing SEC record and he did not start winning till he started cheating profusely....

Hugh Freeze had a winning record every single season he coached, except one (2016 where he only won 5), going all the way back to 2011 at Arkansas State. Further, he BEAT bama and competed with every single team in the SEC....we lost to Ga State. Umm, you might want to check your facts!
 
#50
#50
Hugh Freeze had a winning record every single season he coached, except one (2016 where he only won 5), going all the way back to 2011 at Arkansas State. Further, he BEAT bama and competed with every single team in the SEC....we lost to Ga State. Umm, you might want to check your facts!

Indeed he did but his overall SEC record was 19-21 over that span, thus a losing SEC record with cheating......which I stated above.

Also......


Scandals and resignation[edit]
In January 2016, the NCAA charged Ole Miss with numerous recruiting violations. An investigation turned up evidence that Ole Miss employees and boosters arranged numerous "impermissible benefits" for players, such as car loans and cash. At least one recruit was suspected of getting help on his college entrance exam.[21]
The investigation reopened soon after star offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil admitted taking money from one of Freeze's assistants.[22] In February 2017—three months after suffering its first losing season since the year Freeze arrived—Ole Miss withdrew from bowl consideration for the upcoming season. The move came on the same day that the NCAA sent an updated notice of allegations charging the Rebels with eight additional violations. Most seriously, it accused Freeze of not monitoring his assistants, and also accused Ole Miss of not properly controlling the program.[21]
On July 13, 2017, Freeze's predecessor, Houston Nutt, sued Ole Miss for defamation, contending that Freeze and school officials falsely blamed him for the violations. As part of discovery for the lawsuit, Nutt's attorneys filed a Freedom of Information Act request for calls Freeze made on his university-issued cell phone during January 2016. Nutt's attorneys contended that Freeze and others at Ole Miss leaked information to the press as part of an effort to smear their client.[23]
While reviewing those records, Nutt's attorneys discovered a call to a number associated with a female escort service, and alerted Ole Miss officials about it. Freeze claimed it was a misdialed number.[24] School officials investigated, and discovered what they later described as "a concerning pattern" of similar calls dating back to shortly after he arrived in Oxford.[25] On July 20, chancellor Jeff Vitter and athletic director Ross Bjork gave Freeze an ultimatum: resign or be fired for violating the morals clause of his contract. Freeze opted to resign; offensive coordinator Matt Luke was named interim coach.[5]
In February 2019, the NCAA punished the Ole Miss football team for the recruiting and academic violations committed under both Nutt and Freeze. The punishments included a two-year postseason ban, three years of probation, and a four-year ban on some scholarships. As well, the NCAA forced Ole Miss to vacate 33 wins from 2010 to 2016. As a result, 27 of Freeze's wins were stripped from the books; only the 2015 season was unaffected. His record at Ole Miss is now officially 12–25; it was 39–25 on the field.
 

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