How extensive is Tennessee's off the field support staff compared to other schools?

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I've been curious about this one for a while. Do we invest as much in the off the field "analyst" positions as the other major programs? You constantly hear about coaches going to Alabama to become an offensive/defensive analyst. Do we have a similar analytics department?
 
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Yep ol Butch was making over a $M/yr doing that car detail work. Just milked TN until he was paid off then got a HC job, which he is not doing well at.
 
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Plenty of jokes to be made about the band leader, but some years ago I read an article about the back office at Bama. They had like 20+ people just tracking recruits, well above what anyone else was doing. I’m sure others are trying to catch up. It has become a major part of the industry now. Given the amount of research and relationship building that goes into recruiting, it’s no wonder that some schools recruit at another level.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I've been curious about this one for a while. Do we invest as much in the off the field "analyst" positions as the other major programs? You constantly hear about coaches going to Alabama to become an offensive/defensive analyst. Do we have a similar analytics department?
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It seems Saban has been running his own home for failed coaches down in Tuscaloosa for some time. And I am sure Butch Jones was not the only one that played analyst while drawing his buyout from his former employer.

As to how Tennessee invests? I remember Dave Hart saying something while he was here that some academic programs had been dependant on revenues from athletics. Now, how far he was able to adjust that? Who knows? As to facilities, UTK has grown quite well. But as to off field analysts? I doubt they are simialr to Alabama. Who is? I don't know.


Football Coaches - University of Tennessee Athletics

Here is the official list.

And here is Alabama's

Football Coaches - University of Alabama Athletics

Obviously, Alabama has more than they are listing.
 
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TNnative said:
It seems Saban has been running his own home for failed coaches down in Tuscaloosa for some time. And I am sure Butch Jones was not the only one that played analyst while drawing his buyout from his former employer.

As to how Tennessee invests? I remember Dave Hart saying something while he was here that some academic programs had been dependant on revenues from athletics. Now, how far he was able to adjust that? Who knows? As to facilities, UTK has grown quite well. But as to off field analysts? I doubt they are simialr to Alabama. Who is? I don't know.


Football Coaches - University of Tennessee Athletics

Here is the official list.

And here is Alabama's

Football Coaches - University of Alabama Athletics

Obviously, Alabama has more than they are listing.
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But they are getting paid by other teams, ergo don't have to list them. ;)
 
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I'm just surprised the NCAA hasnt stepped in to regulate this. Programs can employ as many off the field staff members as they want? Why is that ok but teams can only have 85 scholarship players and only 14 coaches (including grad assistants)? Why isnt a program's off the field staff not hard-capped the way their on the field staff is?
 
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Universities also outsource recruiting services to third parties. I doubt these services are regulated and the deeper the pockets, the bigger the spend snd advantage.
 
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Orange-U-Glad said:
Plenty of jokes to be made about the band leader, but some years ago I read an article about the back office at Bama. They had like 20+ people just tracking recruits, well above what anyone else was doing. I’m sure others are trying to catch up. It has become a major part of the industry now. Given the amount of research and relationship building that goes into recruiting, it’s no wonder that some schools recruit at another level.
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They created fax girl on signing day.
 
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Majors said:
They created fax girl on signing day.
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Tennessee created "Hostesses"...
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Orange-U-Glad said:
Plenty of jokes to be made about the band leader, but some years ago I read an article about the back office at Bama. They had like 20+ people just tracking recruits, well above what anyone else was doing. I’m sure others are trying to catch up. It has become a major part of the industry now. Given the amount of research and relationship building that goes into recruiting, it’s no wonder that some schools recruit at another level.
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I heard once that Alabama paid one of those former beast running backs who flamed out in the NFL to come back to campus and play on their practice squad. They were looking into doing this with former players, and looking into putting together a budget for it.
 
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I counted 46 support staff on the Vols' website: 2021 Football Roster - University of Tennessee Athletics (scroll down below the players and coaches).

But a lot of those are nutrition, player development, and that sort of thing. You're probably talking primarily about analysts.

Just counting those types, as best I could (titles can mean anything), looks like we have about 16, spread among offense, defense, special teams, and scouting. That includes the GAs, who typically spend a lot of their time doing analyst type stuff too.

Is it the ideal size? IDK. At some point, you start getting diminishing returns. And soon after that the administration and bureaucracy of a large group would start to make the effectiveness diminish even.

Anyway, it is a pretty sizable contingent. I don't know how it compares to other programs, though. Haven't seen anyone else's list.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I've been curious about this one for a while. Do we invest as much in the off the field "analyst" positions as the other major programs? You constantly hear about coaches going to Alabama to become an offensive/defensive analyst. Do we have a similar analytics department?
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We're going to have a lot of young guys wanting to study/learn Heupel's offensive scheme, thoughts, rationale, etc.
 
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