How could Mike Hamilton have handled this better?

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GoVols876

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I think everyone is less then thrilled about the way Fulmer went out. I began to wonder what Mike could of done to better handle this. I heard on the radio that Mike did just as poor of a job when he let Buzz go.

If you were the AD and you wanted Fulmer gone after this year... what would you have done?

:popcorn:
 
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GoVols876 said:
I think everyone is less then thrilled about the way Fulmer went out. I began to wonder what Mike could of done to better handle this. I heard on the radio that Mike did just as poor of a job when he let Buzz go.

If you were the AD and you wanted Fulmer gone after this year... what would you have done?

:popcorn:
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You say "We have made a decision to release you at the end of the season. You can coach the bowl game, if we go. You can also give a press conference - today. Keep it civil, and under five minutes. You will have the opportunity to stay on in some capacity, and we will discuss that at a later date. Keep in mind that the press conference will be remembered for years. Make the Tennessee fans remember you as a great man, not a grandstanding man whining on the way out. Questions?"
 
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GoVols876 said:
I think everyone is less then thrilled about the way Fulmer went out. I began to wonder what Mike could of done to better handle this. I heard on the radio that Mike did just as poor of a job when he let Buzz go.

If you were the AD and you wanted Fulmer gone after this year... what would you have done?

:popcorn:
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There is no "good" way to handle something like this. Fulmer wasn't ready to leave, but the program was suffering. A change had to be made and no matter how it was done, feelings were going to be hurt. :cray:
 
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I think he handled it well and did it at the appropriate time. I think it's what most of the fans wanted and he realized that. Kudos to MH. :rock:
 
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I get the impression that the players more or less showed up in the room on their own? Am I wrong? Were they "invited"? I heard that about 60 players were there.
 
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but didnt MH look like he'd rather be facing down a rabid bear than being in that seat at that particular moment?
Not that I blame him, Im just saying...His expression said it all.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Forget about Hamilton... how could Fulmer have handled it differently?
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This is pompous. Fire a guy from a job he loves and then insist he has a duty to please his critics as he exits. Quite an arm chair luxury indeed.
 
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AllVolYall said:
Wasn't pretty due to the way Fulmer decided to go out kicking and screaming with his posse (football brats) in tow.
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Good grief. What did you expect him to do? The man has spent 35 years or so at Tennessee, and you didn't think he'd be disappointed?
 
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Are you serious? I agree with the decision to let him go, but you must have been watching a different press conference.

Kicking and screaming? He has poured his heart and soul into this university for over 30 years, and it was taken away from him before he was ready to leave it. I don't know you or what you do, but I doubt you have put that kind of dedication into anything. I know I haven't.

As for his football brats, that was a testament to how much those kids love CPF and a show of great respect. He helps those kids with off the field problems as well as on the field problems, and he deserves that respect.

Sure the past few years haven't gone the way we all would have hoped, and I agree with what transpired. But for anyone to think CPF was less than first class in this situation is insane.
 
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NMVol said:
This is pompous. Fire a guy from a job he loves and then insist he has a duty to please his critics as he exits. Quite an arm chair luxury indeed.
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No, sir...you are being pompous.

Fulmer fired himself. College football, and UT football, is about results. Get them, and you're safe. Don't, and you're gone. Fulmer knew the rules of the profession. He chose his path.

Phil Fulmer had no duty to please his "critics"...he did have a duty to please the boosters, admin, and fans. His record, especially over the past five seasons, speaks for itself. His bowl record, record against Top 10 teams, and record against Meyer, Richt, Saban, Miles, and yes, Spurrier, was his undoing. When you have a coach talking about "equity", as Fulmer did (remember 2005?), you have a problem.

Phil Fulmer is a legend at UT, and will always be remembered so. He earned that place in UT history.

How he left is nothing more than a sad footnote to an otherwise great career. Nobody put words in his mouth. Those were his words, and he chose them. I'm sure he had a reason, whether it was valid or not.

In the end, Phil Fulmer apparently felt that UT, and UT football owed him something. He said as much. Intentional or not, it was a very "me" mentality.

There is no "I" in team. Fulmer, of all people, should have known that, and honored it.

Go Vols.
 
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perico said:
Good grief. What did you expect him to do? The man has spent 35 years or so at Tennessee, and you didn't think he'd be disappointed?
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Act like a mature adult and have the team act in a respectful manner. What did you expect?
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
No, sir...you are being pompous.

Fulmer fired himself. College football, and UT football, is about results. Get them, and you're safe. Don't, and you're gone. Fulmer knew the rules of the profession. He chose his path.

Phil Fulmer had no duty to please his "critics"...he did have a duty to please the boosters, admin, and fans. His record, especially over the past five seasons, speaks for itself. His bowl record, record against Top 10 teams, and record against Meyer, Richt, Saban, Miles, and yes, Spurrier, was his undoing. When you have a coach talking about "equity", as Fulmer did (remember 2005?), you have a problem.

Phil Fulmer is a legend at UT, and will always be remembered so. He earned that place in UT history.

How he left is nothing more than a sad footnote to an otherwise great career. Nobody put words in his mouth. Those were his words, and he chose them. I'm sure he had a reason, whether it was valid or not.

In the end, Phil Fulmer apparently felt that UT, and UT football owed him something. He said as much. Intentional or not, it was a very "me" mentality.

There is no "I" in team. Fulmer, of all people, should have known that, and honored it.

Go Vols.
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I agree 100%
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
No, sir...you are being pompous.

Fulmer fired himself. College football, and UT football, is about results. Get them, and you're safe. Don't, and you're gone. Fulmer knew the rules of the profession. He chose his path.

Phil Fulmer had no duty to please his "critics"...he did have a duty to please the boosters, admin, and fans. His record, especially over the past five seasons, speaks for itself. His bowl record, record against Top 10 teams, and record against Meyer, Richt, Saban, Miles, and yes, Spurrier, was his undoing. When you have a coach talking about "equity", as Fulmer did (remember 2005?), you have a problem.

Phil Fulmer is a legend at UT, and will always be remembered so. He earned that place in UT history.

How he left is nothing more than a sad footnote to an otherwise great career. Nobody put words in his mouth. Those were his words, and he chose them. I'm sure he had a reason, whether it was valid or not.

In the end, Phil Fulmer apparently felt that UT, and UT football owed him something. He said as much. Intentional or not, it was a very "me" mentality.

There is no "I" in team. Fulmer, of all people, should have known that, and honored it.

Go Vols.
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I attack the comment you attack the person. Hamilton wants to have it both ways. If Hamilton didn't feel like he owed Phil then why the Phil Fulmer day?

Oh and by the way, the University does owe Fulmer something. :eek:k:
 
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Hammy shouldn't have had to handle it, Fulmer should have listened to the boss and retired after stepping off the plane from Tempe in 99. You could see after that Fulmer just wasn't the same, and so the results show.
 
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NMVol said:
I attack the comment you attack the person. Hamilton wants to have it both ways. If Hamilton didn't feel like he owed Phil then why the Phil Fulmer day?

Oh and by the way, the University does owe Fulmer something. :eek:k:
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Huh? Comment -vs- person?

Mike Hamilton gets paid to RUN the Athletic Department, not coddle it. Hard times call for hard decisions. This was one of them.

Mike Hamilton doesn't "owe" Phil Fulmer anything. UT, the fans, the players, and the alumni do. We owe him a lot. More than will fit in this post. "Phil Fulmer Day" is the UT equivalent of the ticker tape parade that most sports legends get. Phil Fulmer earned that. He's also, IMO, a first-ballot College Football HOF inductee.

Get over yourself, and get over my posts. It was past time for a change. Change was made. Phil Fulmer will survive, and handsomely at that (yes, we owe him 6 million bucks).

And UT football will survive. And recover. Which is not what it's doing at this point in time.

Go Vols.
 
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No other way he could have done it. You can't wait until the end of the season and start looking for a coach.... any good ones will already be spoken for. Now was the time
 
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