How could Dan Fleser forget this...

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In defense of DaddyChoc, he is actually one of the really decent uconn fans who doesn't get involved in the mudslinging contest that some over at the Boneyard love to participate in.
 
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DaddyChoc said:
thanks guys... I just like to have good honest conversation
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It seems like what you like is to always have a Con thread on this board. You don't discuss the Lady Vols, you don't discuss Pat or Holly, you come here to talk about Con. If there isn't a Con thread going on, you get a twitch and start one.
 
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VollyParton said:
It seems like what you like is to always have a Con thread on this board. You don't discuss the Lady Vols, you don't discuss Pat or Holly, you come here to talk about Con. If there isn't a Con thread going on, you get a twitch and start one.
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I wish I could like this a 1000 times. Daddychoc may be less obnoxious than many Boneyard regulars but the incessant need to interject UConn discussions into a LV fan site is, well I am not sure what it is really.
 
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Why would a fan of a team like UCONN what to make any statements what so ever on another team's site? Especially when the team is part of another conference. UCONN speaks for itself. I don't see any bows for UCONN on this site. We get it you are right now the class of the women's game, we do not need reminders.
 
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teacherdean said:
Why would a fan of a team like UCONN want to make any statements what so ever on another team's site? Especially when the team is part of another conference. UCONN speaks for itself. I don't see any bows for UCONN on this site. We get it you are right now the dominant team of the women's game, we do not need reminders.
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FYP:hi:
 
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if we ran off everyone with differing opinions this place would be lonely as heck and no fun at all.. more the merrier
 
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gule said:
if we ran off everyone with differing opinions this place would be lonely as heck and no fun at all.. more the merrier
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This thread is far more telling of the paranoia in this fan base rather than antagonism from another IMO.

The game 20 years ago was and still is the biggest most-hyped MLK game ever. It's a big reason women's basketball is where it is today. Tennessee was a part of it, and should be proud of that fact...
 
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Darth_Vol said:
This thread is far more telling of the paranoia in this fan base rather than antagonism from another IMO.

The game 20 years ago was and still is the biggest most-hyped MLK game ever. It's a big reason women's basketball is where it is today. Tennessee was a part of it, and should be proud of that fact...
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Did you read Fleser's article? All he said was, at the time, 1996, the LVs had been to "11 Final Fours — either AIAW or NCAA — and won three NCAA national championships. They had played before a crowd of 24,563 on Dec. 9, 1987, at Thompson-Boling Arena against Texas."

His point being that the LVs had been in big games with big crowds before that the game and that this matchup was a bigger deal to Uconn and ESPN (in 1996) than the LVs.

That is not paranoia but a pretty clear statement of the historical record. I am not sure what "honest conversation" Daddychoc wants to have about the game.
 
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gule said:
if we ran off everyone with differing opinions this place would be lonely as heck and no fun at all.. more the merrier
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Yeah, I think varying opinions are interesting, but does he ever post opinions? All I see from him is starting Con-related threads that end up full of posts where people say nasty stuff about Con and Geno. Over and over again. Who needs that stuff here? Well, DaddyChoc does, apparently.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
This thread is far more telling of the paranoia in this fan base rather than antagonism from another IMO.

The game 20 years ago was and still is the biggest most-hyped MLK game ever. It's a big reason women's basketball is where it is today. Tennessee was a part of it, and should be proud of that fact...
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Oh, brother - you can't possibly think that.
Do we celebrate the first UT-Bama football game? That's an historic rivalry, and it's not even defunct.
 
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VollyParton said:
Oh, brother - you can't possibly think that.
Do we celebrate the first UT-Bama football game? That's an historic rivalry, and it's not even defunct.
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And when the Lakers and Celtics play these days it doesn't mean much. That doesn't change the value of how much the rivalry meant in the 80's to help gain interest in the NBA and make the game what it is today.

Women's basketball was (and arguably still is) a niche sport trying to gain interest. This game gave birth to the first big rivalry of national interest and gained countless fans for women's basketball. UT and UConn became the two iconic programs in the game, and have combined to win 14 of the past 20 national championships. It was Ali-Frazier, and when they played everyone watched. You can deny it all you want, but you know no other rivalry has impacted the game like this one did....
 
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Darth_Vol said:
And when the Lakers and Celtics play these days it doesn't mean much. That doesn't change the value of how much the rivalry meant in the 80's to help gain interest in the NBA and make the game what it is today.

Women's basketball was (and arguably still is) a niche sport trying to gain interest. This game gave birth to the first big rivalry of national interest and gained countless fans for women's basketball. UT and UConn became the two iconic programs in the game, and have combined to win 14 of the past 20 national championships. It was Ali-Frazier, and when they played everyone watched. You can deny it all you want, but you know no other rivalry has impacted the game like this one did....
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No one bakes a birthday cake to commemorate the first Lakers/Celtics game, whenever that was, do they?

I would not call UT & Con the first big rivalry of national interest, but it was the first big rivalry of interest for Con fans, and I can see why they might celebrate it. And that is fine with me, but I don't see why DaddyChoc needs to continually start Con threads on this message board.
 
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VollyParton said:
No one bakes a birthday cake to commemorate the first Lakers/Celtics game, whenever that was, do they?

I would not call UT & Con the first big rivalry of national interest, but it was the first big rivalry of interest for Con fans, and I can see why they might celebrate it. And that is fine with me, but I don't see why DaddyChoc needs to continually start Con threads on this message board.
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Hey, Volly:wink2: UT Ladys vs Texas at TBA was probably the first really big one. Over 25,000 there, traffic was horrible. I think the Fleser article said 8,000 at the Uconn sell out?? That one sort of lost me. But ODU, La Tech, Texas, Georgia...NC game. I think all of that was before Uconn's big game sell out of 8,000. I don't think that game put WBB on the national stage. Pat did that years earlier. Of course having ESPN in the backyard and promoting them did help Uconn get publicity for their program.
 
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Smallvol#1 said:
Hey, Volly:wink2: UT Ladys vs Texas at TBA was probably the first really big one. Over 25,000 there, traffic was horrible. I think the Fleser article said 8,000 at the Uconn sell out?? That one sort of lost me. But ODU, La Tech, Texas, Georgia...NC game. I think all of that was before Uconn's big game sell out of 8,000. I don't think that game put WBB on the national stage. Pat did that years earlier. Of course having ESPN in the backyard and promoting them did help Uconn get publicity for their program.
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Hey yerself, Smallvol! - you go back even further than me. The first rivalry to catch my attention was with Virginia. People say there is more parity now, but I remember many rivals that scared the hell out of me.
 
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VollyParton said:
No one bakes a birthday cake to commemorate the first Lakers/Celtics game, whenever that was, do they?
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You continue to miss the point. It's not about that game, or the fact that UConn won. It's about the phenomenon it created.

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I would not call UT & Con the first big rivalry of national interest,
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Yes Tennessee had played in big games before. But nationally? That game spawned a rivalry that absolutely dwarfed anything before it.

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but it was the first big rivalry of interest for Con fans, and I can see why they might celebrate it. And that is fine with me,
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You know very well from the moment that game was played, it also became the game of the year for Lady Vol fans (and the nation) until the moment Pat took them off the schedule.

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but I don't see why DaddyChoc needs to continually start Con threads on this message board.
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Your venomous response to his innocuous post probably encapsulates the rivalry better than anything I could say....
 
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VollyParton said:
Hey yerself, Smallvol! - you go back even further than me. The first rivalry to catch my attention was with Virginia. People say there is more parity now, but I remember many rivals that scared the hell out of me.
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Yes, I sat with Nighttrain when she was a Prop 48. Pat put WBB on the national stage, but it was more than just winning. She was class personified, totally ethical, and still humble. She never put herself first, always thought of growing the game and opening doors for women athletes. She is admirable in every way. The few (one or two) who have been uncomplimentary over the years just show themselves as contemptible and jealous jerks. Just listen to the coaches speaking about her this week; they all admire and respect her. She was at the game tonight, looking good and was so happy to see Nikki. I wish her the best:pat:
 
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I was in the crowd when UT played UT(texas) back at the opening of TBA. My sister(UT student) got us tickets to the game. Still remember the awesome play of Clarissa Davis...... :(
 
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