Hot take that I don't think is very hot: Desean Bishop Breaks Dylan Sampson's record for rushing touchdowns this year

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I hope he doesn't. Backfields work more efficiently when the lead back doesn't have to handle the whole load. Hopefully one or more of the other backs can contribute so Bishop doesn't have to handle a Sampson-like load
 
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Just a VolinTears said:
I hope he doesn't. Backfields work more efficiently when the lead back doesn't have to handle the whole load. Hopefully one or more of the other backs can contribute so Bishop doesn't have to handle a Sampson-like load
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Idk, the backfield was pretty efficient in 24 with Sampson carrying the load. That’s the only season in the CJH era that he didn’t have a legit 3 man rotation and it’s also the only year we made the playoffs
 
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901 Orange said:
Idk, the backfield was pretty efficient in 24 with Sampson carrying the load. That’s the only season in the CJH era that he didn’t have a legit 3 man rotation and it’s also the only year we made the playoffs
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2022 the offense was better and we were ranked higher. Had Small, Wright, and Sampson.
 
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As mentioned on the other thread, he is going to be running behind some big ol' boys. They are young but my hot take is Bishop will have better holes to run through than Sampson ever did.
 
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901 Orange said:
2022 offense was better because you had Hendon Hooker at QB. If Hooker is the QB in 2024 the win at least 1 playoff game
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And we made the playoff not only because of Sampson, but we had a top 10 defense.

We had 5 more carries per game for 20 more YPG. Had a 5.0 YPG average in 2022 and 2024, average more rushing TDs per game in 2022. The point is we didn't make the playoffs just because we didn't rotate RBs. We just happened to have a really good main RB and a really good defense we were forced to rely upon. If we had 2024's defense in 2022, we would've had everything we needed to win it all.
 
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Vol865 said:
And we made the playoff not only because of Sampson, but we had a top 10 defense.

We had 5 more carries per game for 20 more YPG. Had a 5.0 YPG average in 2022 and 2024, average more rushing TDs per game in 2022. The point is we didn't make the playoffs just because we didn't rotate RBs. We just happened to have a really good main RB and a really good defense we were forced to rely upon. If we had 2024's defense in 2022, we would've had everything we needed to win it all.
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I never said we made the playoffs ONLY because of Sampson

I said the workhorse back was just as efficient as the 3 back rotation and they rode him all the way to the playoffs.

If you had 24’s defense in 22 you would have gotten the same outcome. There’s like 20 guys that were on both defenses.

The part u have to factor in is the strategy. They were trying to score with Hendon every single drive. That impacts the way you play defense and it also has an impact on those numbers you threw out. With Nico the strategy was to shorten the game. Naturally the scoring would be down in 24 because it was the slowest pace they played at in the CJH era. It helps your defense tremendously if you move the ball meticulously at 5ypc.
 
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901 Orange said:
I never said we made the playoffs ONLY because of Sampson

I said the workhorse back was just as efficient as the 3 back rotation and they rode him all the way to the playoffs.

If you had 24’s defense in 22 you would have gotten the same outcome. There’s like 20 guys that were on both defenses.

The part u have to factor in is the strategy. They were trying to score with Hendon every single drive. That impacts the way you play defense and it also has an impact on those numbers you threw out. With Nico the strategy was to shorten the game. Naturally the scoring would be down in 24 because it was the slowest pace they played at in the CJH era. It helps your defense tremendously if you move the ball meticulously at 5ypc.
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You wouldn’t have the same outcome, those same guys were much less experienced. And Jermod McCoy was the heart of our defense and he wasn’t there in 2022
 
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901 Orange said:
I never said we made the playoffs ONLY because of Sampson

I said the workhorse back was just as efficient as the 3 back rotation and they rode him all the way to the playoffs.

If you had 24’s defense in 22 you would have gotten the same outcome. There’s like 20 guys that were on both defenses.

The part u have to factor in is the strategy. They were trying to score with Hendon every single drive. That impacts the way you play defense and it also has an impact on those numbers you threw out. With Nico the strategy was to shorten the game. Naturally the scoring would be down in 24 because it was the slowest pace they played at in the CJH era. It helps your defense tremendously if you move the ball meticulously at 5ypc.
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My point was that if there was a 12 team playoff in 2022, not only would we have made it, we would've had a higher ranking.

As far as the defense goes, you can have the same guys but that doesn't mean they were playing at the same level, whether thats due to being young or just developing slower.

James Pearce was not the same level of player in 2022 as 2024( For that matter, Byron Young wasn't on the level of Pearce either). Neither was Rickey Gibson. Jakobe Thomas wasn't here. Jermod McCoy wasn't here. Arion Carter wasn't here. Our LBs were pretty average. DBs outside of McCollough were pretty bad.

Not a believer in having to play 3 yds and a cloud of dust to win ball games. Clemson and LSU both won championships without doing that. Bama 2020 also.

Slowing the tempo didn't magically make the defense better from 2022 to 2024. They had better players and more time to develop. Sure you may give the other team more opportunities to score with tempo but you're also giving yourself more opportunities to score and the offense tends to stay in a better rhythm when tempo is incorporated.
 
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Nah, I think the RB room is, overall, better than it was in 2024, or at least it should be healthier. So I don't think he's going to get the touches needed to get 20+ TDs. People seem to be sleeping on the Tulane transfer and I'm not sure why. He was very impressive as a true freshman.
 
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GBO2011 said:
You wouldn’t have the same outcome, those same guys were much less experienced. And Jermod McCoy was the heart of our defense and he wasn’t there in 2022
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One guy doesn’t change the fact that the other 20 were still there. It’s 11 on the field not 1
 
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Vol865 said:
My point was that if there was a 12 team playoff in 2022, not only would we have made it, we would've had a higher ranking.

As far as the defense goes, you can have the same guys but that doesn't mean they were playing at the same level, whether thats due to being young or just developing slower.

James Pearce was not the same level of player in 2022 as 2024( For that matter, Byron Young wasn't on the level of Pearce either). Neither was Rickey Gibson. Jakobe Thomas wasn't here. Jermod McCoy wasn't here. Arion Carter wasn't here. Our LBs were pretty average. DBs outside of McCollough were pretty bad.

Not a believer in having to play 3 yds and a cloud of dust to win ball games. Clemson and LSU both won championships without doing that. Bama 2020 also.

Slowing the tempo didn't magically make the defense better from 2022 to 2024. They had better players and more time to develop. Sure you may give the other team more opportunities to score with tempo but you're also giving yourself more opportunities to score and the offense tends to stay in a better rhythm when tempo is incorporated.
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You just made my point. The majority were the same guys but the strategy is different. Nico was a freshman QB. Hooker was a veteran who had total control of the offense. When u have a veteran QB, a coach is far more likely to rely on the QB. With Nico u had no choice but to rely on the run game and defense to win. Hence why they played the game at a different pace.

It’s not magic, it’s common sense that if you slow the game down u limit possessions for the opponent. That will always help your defense. Why do u think a random backup OL catches a cramp on an extra point after every quick TD??

As far as the 3 yards and cloud of dust statement, football has always been won in the trenches since the beginning of time. Saban has 100 rings off running the ball and playing strong defense. Hell Michigan recently won a title with a QB who couldn’t throw the ball across the street and that was after LSU, Clemson, & 2020 Bama. Indiana just won a natty with a QB who had 1 total 300yard passing game. When u can run the ball, you control the game and that’s on every level of football. Look at Walker in the Superbowl and look at Saquon the year before him.
 
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