Hindsight 20/20

[slimjim85vols]

Would you rather have Kippy Brown as interim coach, or follow the same path with Dooley?

As for my opinion on my own question....

I think given the circumstances that at worst Dooley will be like Zook was with Florida. Meaning, that he may not win (TBD) during his entire tenure here, but will leave alot of talent for the next coach.

I also believe Dooley can bring us out of these dark times. Expecting Dooley to be highly successful these past two years is the equivalent of expecting someone to win a drag race with a car with 3 wheels, slipping transmission, and motor missing more than just a couple cylinders. Don't get me wrong, I want what is best for our team and want us to win, but I believe what has happened the past two years has been quality training on the field. I truly believe if we stay healthy we will have a New Years Day bowl. The talent is there, depth is 100 times better, and I believe we finally have the right assistants in the right spots.

All in all everything starts at the top, and confidence breeds confidence, and I believe that Hart being more athletics and less on the department like F.A.D. Hamilton will only help Dooley.

Just hadn't heard of this topic, and its that time of year to entertain ourselves, until our Vols can give us those great fall Saturdays! !! GBO!

 

[Ron Swanson]

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[allvol123]

Kippy Brown indeed. It was the best possible solution at the time.

 

[zjcvols]

One thing about the last two years of Tennessee football I've learned:

New expressions in explaining a depleted roster. I've picked up 25 metaphors.

 

[slimjim85vols]

Kippy Brown indeed. It was the best possible solution at the time.

Care to explain why that is your opinion?

 

[allvol123]

Care to explain why that is your opinion?

Dooley was obviously a low level target. He never gets that job in a normal situation, it was a desperation hire. Now we are stuck with him for at least 3 years no matter what. Would have just rather settled the ship used the extra time to field better candidates.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Dooley was obviously a low level target. He never gets that job in a normal situation, it was a desperation hire. Now we are stuck with him for at least 3 years no matter what. Would have just rather settled the ship used the extra time to field better candidates.

whom? Spit it out. Who does TN have right now if Kippy Brown as interim coach 2 years ago.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Should've done it like Ohio State did. Have Kippy run the team for a year like Luke Fickell, then hire a big name.

The only problem is, in hindsight, I still can't see Hamilton spending the money to get a good coach.
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[VolFan_N_NC]

Kippy Brown indeed. It was the best possible solution at the time.

Yes. Kippy Brown is such a great HC option. Remind me of all the teams that lined up for him as their HC at the end of the season.

You can hate on Dooley all you want, but saying that Kippy Brown is a better option is moronic.

 

[allvol123]

whom? Spit it out. Who does TN have right now if Kippy Brown as interim coach 2 years ago.

That is a ridiculously stupid question to ask. But to think you can't get someone better than Dooley once the waters calm takes an absolute imbecile that assuredly does not understand the stature of UT football. While I believe Urban Meyer is a fraud, OSU showed the way to do it. They got the person they wanted.

 

[allvol123]

Yes. Kippy Brown is such a great HC option. Remind me of all the teams that lined up for him as their HC at the end of the season.

You can hate on Dooley all you want, but saying that Kippy Brown is a better option is moronic.

Interim option, for the challenged among you.

 

[loggervol]

blah blah blah recruiting.blah blah blahcould have done any blah.blah blah blah farther behind.

 

[VolFan_N_NC]

Should've done it like Ohio State did. Have Kippy run the team for a year like Luke Fickell, then hire a big name.

The only problem is, in hindsight, I still can't see Hamilton spending the money to get a good coach.
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You're probably the same person that thinks we can get Bill Bilichick or Pete Carroll as a HC. Get your head your head out of the clouds, pal.

After Kiffin left, no big name coach wanted to come near our program. Atleast Dooley took on the challenge and has brought in SEC level talent ever since he has been here. If you can't give someone 3 years to try to fix the train wreck that our program was, then you should give up football and start watching soccer.

 

[DjCrenshaw]

You're probably the same person that thinks we can get Bill Bilichick or Pete Carroll as a HC. Get your head your head out of the clouds, pal.

After Kiffin left, no big name coach wanted to come near our program. Atleast Dooley took on the challenge and has brought in SEC level talent ever since he has been here. If you can't give someone 3 years to try to fix the train wreck that our program was, then you should give up football and start watching soccer.

Ouch, but so true.

 

[Kingston Vol]

You're probably the same person that thinks we can get Bill Bilichick or Pete Carroll as a HC. Get your head your head out of the clouds, pal.

After Kiffin left, no big name coach wanted to come near our program. Atleast Dooley took on the challenge and has brought in SEC level talent ever since he has been here. If you can't give someone 3 years to try to fix the train wreck that our program was, then you should give up football and start watching soccer.

k:

It's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about and just want to argue. You proved my point in your nonsense. No good coach wanted the job when it was offered, so we settled for Dooley. If we wait a year, settle the program, we get a good coach.

Now we're in the 3rd year of a project that has failed in its first two years. I think we'll win this year, but the fact that it's even in question is disturbing.
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[Ron Swanson]

Should've done it like Ohio State did. Have Kippy run the team for a year like Luke Fickell, then hire a big name.

The only problem is, in hindsight, I still can't see Hamilton spending the money to get a good coach.
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Except OSU's roster wasn't a dumpster fire like UT's. Pretty big difference. The job still wouldn't have attracted a big name coach a year later.

 

[JokermanVol]

Who knows, Brown isn't that proven. Probably more proven than Dooley though.

In hindsight I wish we would have hired Mike Leach but that simply wasn't an option then.

 

[VolFan_N_NC]

Interim option, for the challenged among you.

You're right. Hand the reins of our program over to an unqualified interim HC for one year and let him fail, while we were in the middle of dumping our AD. All just after hiring a HC in a scramble and only giving him 2 years to succeed with a roster full of walk-ons. Every big name coach in the country would be jumping over one another for the opportunity to coach at Tennessee.

Oh, and BTW, I'm sure it would have done wonders for our recruiting. You should really step out of your cloud and join the rest of us in the real world.

 

[allvol123]

People thinking Derek Dooley is the best that UT football can attract are insulting this program.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Except OSU's roster wasn't a dumpster fire like UT's. Pretty big difference. The job still wouldn't have attracted a big name coach a year later.

It wasn't the roster that made coaches disinterested. All good coaches have an ego. They think they can fix anything. The problem was timing and money.
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[King Webbsticles]

Kippy Brown as interim would have been a better option, Imo.
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[DjCrenshaw]

Kippy Brown as interim would have been a better option, Imo.
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Shut it gator troll

 

[GAVol]

whom? Spit it out. Who does TN have right now if Kippy Brown as interim coach 2 years ago.

I don't necessarily agree with the interim coach scenario, but I'd bet that if we'd gone in that direction, somebody like Tommy Tuberville's would have been hired.

 

[allvol123]

You're right. Hand the reins of our program over to an unqualified interim HC for one year and let him fail, while we were in the middle of dumping our AD. All just after hiring a HC in a scramble and only giving him 2 years to succeed with a roster full of walk-ons. Every big name coach in the country would be jumping over one another for the opportunity to coach at Tennessee.

Oh, and BTW, I'm sure it would have done wonders for our recruiting. You should really step out of your cloud and join the rest of us in the real world.

You are part of the masses that can't see past your nose. Yea, sacrificing one year would have been terrible. Shortsightedness like this is what has enabled this castrophe.

Btw, your celebrated option gets to play itself out. Watch this mess.

 

[VolFan_N_NC]

It amazes me that some of you just don't get it. We had to bring some sort if stability to our program. Fulmer sat on his a$$ for his last few years and was kicked to the curb. When Kiffin came in he dumped a third of our roster, then he bolted a year later - causing us to lose another third of our roster.

We needed some sort of stability and Dooley has brought that. His record may not show it to date, but no coach in America could have won with the roster that we had. And now that we finally have the horses to compete, everyone wants to complain and say we could have done better. The truth is, that we really couldn't have done better at the time, Check the coaching search threads - we were the laughing stock of CFB (mostly bc of the way that Hamilton went about his search for a HC so publicly).

Firing Dooley after only 2 years would have only added to the circus and we would not be as close as we are today. Patience people, patience! If he doesn't get it done this year then well get rid of him. But we will still be in a better position than we would have been before.