Hillary Clinton thinks aliens have visited earth

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I loathe Hillary these days despite the fact I backed her the first time she ran. With that being said, she's privy to info most aren't and has been involved with some sketchy stuff. I find this interesting...

Clinton was reminded by a reporter that she had discussed UFOs in 2007. "I think we may have been [visited already]. We don't know for sure," she told the The Conway Daily Sun.

I've always thought at the very least that there is life somewhere in the universe. As intelligent as us or intelligent enough to get here? I've thought there probably is based on stuff I've read and seen over the years. You can't cover up today(unless it's behind closed doors) with the internet and everyone having smartphones with cameras. With Hillary now commenting on it, she would have access to actual files as opposed to things you read on the internet. I've always been intrigued by astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell's claim that aliens exist. I thought he held the record for longest moonwalk but that may not be accurate. Wernher Von Braun has also said aliens exist. Who knows, I just think it's interesting Hillary publicly stated she believes aliens have been here. Wtf...?
 
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I'd rather hear that than a politician say that he or she thinks the universe is only 6000 years old and the dinosaurs died because there was no room on the ark.
 
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I'd rather hear that than a politician say that he or she thinks the universe is only 6000 years old and the dinosaurs died because there was no room on the ark.

I would rather the opposite. Someone 2ho chooses to be a devout Christian without subscribing to the day/age theory or the gap theory is likely to have the morals necessary to be a good leader. You can't be a bible thumper and a pathological liar like 99 percent of politicians are. I can't imagine a scenario where a presidents belief in what age the earth is would have any bearing whatsoever on a policy decision or any kind of national security. So I don't see where there could possibly be a downside. You have a leader with great morals and integrity and no negative consequences to their interpretation of the bible. I can see the atheists asinine argument would be that his belief would mean that he denies science or is easily fooled. Radioactive carbon dating is not all of science. Nobody alive today was alive at creation...and records don't go back that far either. So it takes faith to try and date the earth or universe regardless of what one believes. Either you believe in the accuracy of a very narrow portion of science, which often is very erratic and undependable (2 sample of the same piece of limestone can give dates millions of years apart) or you believe in a literal interpretation of the dates and lifespans of 5he bible. Both beliefs take faith. One takes faith on man, the other in God. I've seen far too much of the ignorance and outright stupidity of man to put 100 percent of my faith in anything man does. I don't know how old the earth is bit I know that believing it is 6000 years old does not make one a moron.
 
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I would rather the opposite. Someone 2ho chooses to be a devout Christian without subscribing to the day/age theory or the gap theory is likely to have the morals necessary to be a good leader. You can't be a bible thumper and a pathological liar like 99 percent of politicians are. I can't imagine a scenario where a presidents belief in what age the earth is would have any bearing whatsoever on a policy decision or any kind of national security. So I don't see where there could possibly be a downside. You have a leader with great morals and integrity and no negative consequences to their interpretation of the bible. I can see the atheists asinine argument would be that his belief would mean that he denies science or is easily fooled. Radioactive carbon dating is not all of science. Nobody alive today was alive at creation...and records don't go back that far either. So it takes faith to try and date the earth or universe regardless of what one believes. Either you believe in the accuracy of a very narrow portion of science, which often is very erratic and undependable (2 sample of the same piece of limestone can give dates millions of years apart) or you believe in a literal interpretation of the dates and lifespans of 5he bible. Both beliefs take faith. One takes faith on man, the other in God. I've seen far too much of the ignorance and outright stupidity of man to put 100 percent of my faith in anything man does. I don't know how old the earth is bit I know that believing it is 6000 years old does not make one a moron.

Torquemada agrees.
 
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I would rather the opposite. Someone 2ho chooses to be a devout Christian without subscribing to the day/age theory or the gap theory is likely to have the morals necessary to be a good leader. You can't be a bible thumper and a pathological liar like 99 percent of politicians are. I can't imagine a scenario where a presidents belief in what age the earth is would have any bearing whatsoever on a policy decision or any kind of national security. So I don't see where there could possibly be a downside. You have a leader with great morals and integrity and no negative consequences to their interpretation of the bible. I can see the atheists asinine argument would be that his belief would mean that he denies science or is easily fooled. Radioactive carbon dating is not all of science. Nobody alive today was alive at creation...and records don't go back that far either. So it takes faith to try and date the earth or universe regardless of what one believes. Either you believe in the accuracy of a very narrow portion of science, which often is very erratic and undependable (2 sample of the same piece of limestone can give dates millions of years apart) or you believe in a literal interpretation of the dates and lifespans of 5he bible. Both beliefs take faith. One takes faith on man, the other in God. I've seen far too much of the ignorance and outright stupidity of man to put 100 percent of my faith in anything man does. I don't know how old the earth is bit I know that believing it is 6000 years old does not make one a moron.


No, it shows that you are willfully ignorant and would likely govern according to the incorrect interpretation of ancient fairy tales.

As for the science behind dating the earth. Nobody is sure precisely how old the earth is but the difference between 6,000 years old and 4.5 billion years old is massive. To put in perspective, it is same as comparing the size of knox county to that of the entire united states. We might not have an exact measurement for the age of the earth, but it's a pretty long way from 6,028. Which, by the way, is a number that most Biblical scholars do not acknowledge as the age of the earth.
 
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I would rather the opposite. Someone 2ho chooses to be a devout Christian without subscribing to the day/age theory or the gap theory is likely to have the morals necessary to be a good leader. You can't be a bible thumper and a pathological liar like 99 percent of politicians are. I can't imagine a scenario where a presidents belief in what age the earth is would have any bearing whatsoever on a policy decision or any kind of national security. So I don't see where there could possibly be a downside. You have a leader with great morals and integrity and no negative consequences to their interpretation of the bible. I can see the atheists asinine argument would be that his belief would mean that he denies science or is easily fooled. Radioactive carbon dating is not all of science. Nobody alive today was alive at creation...and records don't go back that far either. So it takes faith to try and date the earth or universe regardless of what one believes. Either you believe in the accuracy of a very narrow portion of science, which often is very erratic and undependable (2 sample of the same piece of limestone can give dates millions of years apart) or you believe in a literal interpretation of the dates and lifespans of 5he bible. Both beliefs take faith. One takes faith on man, the other in God. I've seen far too much of the ignorance and outright stupidity of man to put 100 percent of my faith in anything man does. I don't know how old the earth is bit I know that believing it is 6000 years old does not make one a moron.


Yes it does.
 
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I would rather the opposite. Someone 2ho chooses to be a devout Christian without subscribing to the day/age theory or the gap theory is likely to have the morals necessary to be a good leader. You can't be a bible thumper and a pathological liar like 99 percent of politicians are. I can't imagine a scenario where a presidents belief in what age the earth is would have any bearing whatsoever on a policy decision or any kind of national security. So I don't see where there could possibly be a downside. You have a leader with great morals and integrity and no negative consequences to their interpretation of the bible. I can see the atheists asinine argument would be that his belief would mean that he denies science or is easily fooled. Radioactive carbon dating is not all of science. Nobody alive today was alive at creation...and records don't go back that far either. So it takes faith to try and date the earth or universe regardless of what one believes. Either you believe in the accuracy of a very narrow portion of science, which often is very erratic and undependable (2 sample of the same piece of limestone can give dates millions of years apart) or you believe in a literal interpretation of the dates and lifespans of 5he bible. Both beliefs take faith. One takes faith on man, the other in God. I've seen far too much of the ignorance and outright stupidity of man to put 100 percent of my faith in anything man does. I don't know how old the earth is bit I know that believing it is 6000 years old does not make one a moron.


Stopped reading right there.
 
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I would rather the opposite. Someone 2ho chooses to be a devout Christian without subscribing to the day/age theory or the gap theory is likely to have the morals necessary to be a good leader. You can't be a bible thumper and a pathological liar like 99 percent of politicians are. I can't imagine a scenario where a presidents belief in what age the earth is would have any bearing whatsoever on a policy decision or any kind of national security. So I don't see where there could possibly be a downside. You have a leader with great morals and integrity and no negative consequences to their interpretation of the bible. I can see the atheists asinine argument would be that his belief would mean that he denies science or is easily fooled. Radioactive carbon dating is not all of science. Nobody alive today was alive at creation...and records don't go back that far either. So it takes faith to try and date the earth or universe regardless of what one believes. Either you believe in the accuracy of a very narrow portion of science, which often is very erratic and undependable (2 sample of the same piece of limestone can give dates millions of years apart) or you believe in a literal interpretation of the dates and lifespans of 5he bible. Both beliefs take faith. One takes faith on man, the other in God. I've seen far too much of the ignorance and outright stupidity of man to put 100 percent of my faith in anything man does. I don't know how old the earth is bit I know that believing it is 6000 years old does not make one a moron.

Doesn't make someone a moron for not knowing how old the earth is if they read the Bible but factually it appears that it's wrong. Scientists and theories have been wrong, even Hawking has been wrong. I'd venture to say the Bible is wrong because I think other things in the bible don't make sense. Jonah and the whale or Noah's ark for example. Not that I need Bill Nye to convince me but he knocks it out of the park(imo).

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4OhXQTMOEc[/youtube]

I have nothing against the Bible and Christians. I used to be on the fence but in recent years I've gone away from it because believing in God and praying never really did much for me. To me it's more of a book of fairy tales that teaches moral values. So, I do think most people who follow the Bible try to follow those values which is a good thing as long as they're tolerant of others. Given what flies these days, it's not like Christians are using the Bible to prevent people from doing mostly what they please. Though, you could argue that people who believe in the Bible could be holding us back scientifically.

To each their own, but I like figuring out the world as opposed to simply accepting the Bible's take on it using blind faith. As long as Christians don't care that science does it's thing, I don't see the issue. Really the only negative about it is some of the brain power wasted that science could have used. Like you said, believing that the world is only 6,000 years old doesn't make someone a moron because many intelligent/successful people believe in the Bible and commit their life to it. I just personally think that some of it is factually wrong given what we now know and that it's curbing people down a different path which is good morally but probably wrong scientifically.

I always found the double slit experiment to be interesting when it comes to God.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]

Didn't Einstein go from being atheist to believing in God before his death? Not because he was dying but just based on experiments. I thought he came to the conclusion that there must be something bigger than us. I don't know... information is always being filtered in and out. Could be wrong, it's been a while since I've read about him.
 
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I'd rather hear that than a politician say that he or she thinks the universe is only 6000 years old and the dinosaurs died because there was no room on the ark.

I agree. I believe there is other life out there. There is a chance that they have visited earth. Plently of evidence has been hidden by the government.
 
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Doesn't make someone a moron for not knowing how old the earth is if they read the Bible but factually it appears that it's wrong.

Not knowing how old the Earth is does not make one a moron. Willfully dismissing scientific dating of the Earth because it's not congruent with the bronze age religious message is moronic.

Those that point to previous errors in science as a rationalization or defense against modern dating methods is nothing more than an attempt to bob and weave the fact they're deluding themselves.

https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/683681888687538177
 
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I always found the double slit experiment to be interesting when it comes to God.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc[/youtube]

How so?

Didn't Einstein go from being atheist to believing in God before his death? Not because he was dying but just based on experiments. I thought he came to the conclusion that there must be something bigger than us. I don't know... information is always being filtered in and out. Could be wrong, it's been a while since I've read about him.

Pantheist.
 
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I would rather the opposite. Someone 2ho chooses to be a devout Christian without subscribing to the day/age theory or the gap theory is likely to have the morals necessary to be a good leader. You can't be a bible thumper and a pathological liar like 99 percent of politicians are. I can't imagine a scenario where a presidents belief in what age the earth is would have any bearing whatsoever on a policy decision or any kind of national security. So I don't see where there could possibly be a downside. You have a leader with great morals and integrity and no negative consequences to their interpretation of the bible. I can see the atheists asinine argument would be that his belief would mean that he denies science or is easily fooled. Radioactive carbon dating is not all of science. Nobody alive today was alive at creation...and records don't go back that far either. So it takes faith to try and date the earth or universe regardless of what one believes. Either you believe in the accuracy of a very narrow portion of science, which often is very erratic and undependable (2 sample of the same piece of limestone can give dates millions of years apart) or you believe in a literal interpretation of the dates and lifespans of 5he bible. Both beliefs take faith. One takes faith on man, the other in God. I've seen far too much of the ignorance and outright stupidity of man to put 100 percent of my faith in anything man does. I don't know how old the earth is bit I know that believing it is 6000 years old does not make one a moron.

Firstly Jimmy Swaggert says hi. There are people who are bible thumpers that lie every damn day. Believing in the bible doesn't keep one from lying. Good scruples do.

Secondly care to explain how we are receiving starlight from stars billions of light years away? In case you didn't know if a star is one billion lights away that mean it takes light one billion years for the light from that star to reach earth. One billion year is just a few more than 6,000.
 
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Firstly Jimmy Swaggert says hi. There are people who are bible thumpers that lie every damn day. Believing in the bible doesn't keep one from lying. Good scruples do.

Secondly care to explain how we are receiving starlight from stars billions of light years away? In case you didn't know if a star is one billion lights away that mean it takes light one billion years for the light from that star to reach earth. One billion year is just a few more than 6,000.

As a Christian, starlight has been the hardest to reconcile regarding the age of the earth.
 
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As a Christian, starlight has been the hardest to reconcile regarding the age of the earth.

Read genesis..He hung the stars to light the night. He would have to make the light already reaching the earth from the moment of creation to make the light visible. God works miracles everyday. I have seen several. This is no different IMO. Goodnight.
 
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No. No it doesn't. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. You sir, are the fool. You will realize that 1 day. Every man is appointed once to die, and then the judgment. No escaping that.

"Fear of the lord", blah, blah, blah.


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Read genesis..He hung the stars to light the night. He would have to make the light already reaching the earth from the moment of creation to make the light visible. God works miracles everyday. I have seen several. This is no different IMO. Goodnight.

Makes it hard to argue when you completely ignore science. My magical book says it ain't so and anything that says otherwise is wrong no matter how many examples you can bring up. Science is always ridiculed by the religious, just look at Galileo and other scientists who were excommunicated from the church for their beliefs. If the stars are there for light they're doing a pretty crummy job. Ever been outside on a moonless night? Not very easy to see. Plus if there happens to be cloud cover the stars are pretty much useless.
 
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No. No it doesn't. Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. You sir, are the fool. You will realize that 1 day. Every man is appointed once to die, and then the judgment. No escaping that.

Matthew 5:22New King James Version (NKJV)

22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause[a] shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.

Careful Marcus, you're in danger of hell fire now.
 
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She better be careful


http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/631341/New-shock-claim-JFK-was-murdered-by-CIA-days-after-demanding-UFO-files-and-NASA-visit

The claim was made after US presidential Democratic candidate Hilary Clinton vowed to get to the bottom of an alleged UFO cover up high within the government.

Scott C Waring, editor of UFO Sightings Daily, posted copies to his website of a letter sent by JFK to the then head of the CIA just 10 days before he was murdered.

He wrote: "Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton doesn't know it yet, but she does not have the power to release such information.

"CIA would kill her before she could, just like they did JFK.

"Yes, just a week before his death JFK wrote a memo to CIA to release all pertinent info to NASA, but somehow he was killed before it ever happened.

"I was the first to publish this document in my book UFO Sightings 2006-2009."

The memo is a confirmed declassified document released by the CIA.

Mr Waring added: "JFK wrote the memo to CIA on Nov 12, 1963, then on Nov 22, 1963 he was killed.

"Hillary will be too scared of the CIA to release such information."
 

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The memo asked for a breakdown of identified and unidentified sightings the CIA was aware of.

JFK wrote: "It would be very helpful if you would have the high threat cases reviewed with the purpose of identification of bona fide as opposed to classified CIA and USAF sources.

"It is important that we make a clear distinction between the knowns and unknowns in the event the Soviets try to mistake our extended cooperation as a cover for intelligence gathering of their defence and space programs.

"I would like you to arrange a program of data sharing with NASA where unknowns are a factor."

On the same day JKF sent a separate memo to NASA asking for "cooperation with the former Soviet Union on mutual outer space activities."

It is understood JFK was concerned about the high amount of UFO sightings over Russia and feared the Soviets would wrongly believe it was US spying equipment.

Four days later on November 16 1963 he visited NASA at Cape Canaveral, Florida, which further fuels the conspiracists theory.
 

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