Heupel VS Swinney on transfer portal

[The Original Fade]

Thats a weak take from Dabo

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I think they're both honest men, good coaches who are trying to understand the changing landscape of college football.

Josh shows greater equanimity. Takes the world as he finds it, adjusts, and keeps moving forward.

Dabo may have been that way as well, earlier in his life. Today, he has a solid system in place, and so is more conservative. Under these circumstances, he finds the portal and NIL more perplexing. So his changing viewpoint is less coherent. He will get there eventually, he's a bright guy. But for now, he's struggling a bit.

 

[Remy]

It's not really that shocking that the Bama and Clemsons of the world have a problem with NIL and the transfer portal.I mean for the last handful of years secret handshakes have taken them to the top of college ball and now that the hand shakes ain't so much a secret there leveling the playing field and they have an issue with it.Theres alot of money moving around behind the scenes we never see or hear of but nobody likes it when someone else's hand is in the cookie jar.

The portal destroys one of their pitches which is if you hang in by the time you're a senior you've moved up the depth chart and star on your way to the NFL. Kids today don't want to labor for 3 or 4 years for one year of pay offs. NIL and the portal makes them gone.

 

[livefaith]

I'm sure he's nice in front of people, but the guy has a history of being an unapologetic racist and is even against his own players earning their equity. The guy is so backwards, but he sadly pushed his "Reverend Freeze" jig upon everyone and sells it with perfection.

Link(s) to the unapologetic racist part please. Would like to read that myself.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

You can think whatever you want about Dabo. But he wins at a high level and gets tons of guys drafted. So maybe his thinking isn’t so wrong.

 

[Illinoisvolfan2]

The portal, in concert with NIL, is wreaking havoc. I’m not opposed to either but there needs to be more restrictions.

 

[MinisterofDef#92]

You miss the obvious point: The Williams sisters were turning pro; they didn't go to college. College student-athletics should be different. Granted, it isn't much anymore--but it should be.

Somehow, this notion settled in that college athletes were being exploited by their schools, which IMO is mostly nonsense. Most revenue-sport student athletes are getting full scholarships that, over 4 years, are worth well more than $100,000--probably closer to $150K or more when you consider housing and food. Do you know how many college students who are not student-athletes would like $100K to pay for their college education? All of them. They not only have to pay to go to college, most have to borrow as well, getting saddled with student debt. So all of these hand-wringing about poor football and basketball players is the usual jive talk. We've got colleges now who are paying student-athletes to get decent or good grades. More nonsense. It's like, well, we can't expect these players to be responsible, so we have to bribe them to stay eligible. Most take very easy majors in the first place, and so getting good grade in a sports-management or general studies (whatever that is) major shouldn't be that difficult in the first place.

Beyond this, NIL is just a license to bribe high-school prospects. Some Alabama coach can tell a 5 star prospect that he's got a bizman lined up to do a NIL with him. Maybe the booster/bizman gives the kid, say, $10K or $20K as part of some supposed NIL deal. Maybe the bizman has 100 T-shirts printed to make the deal look kosher--and that's the end of it. Very few student athletes are going to get an NIL deal in the first place, and of those who do, only a handful (at best) even have the possibility of making decent money. You might have a star left-guard on your football team--but fans are not going to go out and buy Star Left Guard T-shirts. In sum, this idea that student-athletes who are getting an expensive four-year college education for free--along with food, housing, tutoring, crisis management, etc, etc. AND the training/coaching that could them in a position to earn a pro contract--are being mistreated is total BS. They've got it better than all other college students in the country! And paying them to get decent/good grades? Pathetic. And, as mentioned, you've just, with NIL, pretty much give boosters a license to bribe high-school prospects. It used to be done in the dark and was illegal; now, it can all be wide open--and there's NOBODY to monitor any of it.

As for the portal, the transfer thing has spun out of control--but as others have noted, it's easy for coaches at top programs to cast aspersions on the portal, because they recruit very well to begin with. It is clearly more help to programs, like ours, which are not as strong--but even so how much help are most transfers. In some cases they can be a lot of help--look at our QB--but in a lot of cases you're just getting players who were not getting PT at other schools, and there's usually a reason for that. I don't think there is even a limit on the number of times a student-athlete can transfer, is there? If there isn't, there should be--limit of one, or maybe two, I can't decide. It's also worth noting that a LOT of student-athletes do NOT improve their situation by transferring. Some do, but a lot don't. And most transfers can't pick the next school they want to play more. A few can, but a coach has got to want you. You may find a school where you play more--but it may be a lesser, lousy program.

If you look at the big picture, the exploitation is clear as proven by the SCOTUS during their hearings which is why we are where we are currently. No one said the athletes on scholarship aren't getting something of value (although not all athletes get full rides and some are not even on scholarship)...the issue is the magnitude of the clear inequity.

Supreme Court justices dunk on NCAA in athlete-pay hearing

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Dabo and Nick hate and will hate NIL deals because now instead of 3 or 4 teams having a legit shot at winning it all every season there will be 10 or more in a couple years.

We should and i believe WILL be one of them.

No more Bama classes with 10 players that are 5star caliber and the rest of the good football schools in the SEC having 1 or 2 at best like Us, FU, Barn, etc etc. Any SEC school with big boosters and good facilities etc should be able to land way more NFL bound players than what the last 10 or 15 years have been when Bama, Clemson, and now UGA got them all with nothing left for the rest of us...

Welcome back parity in CFB
Its gonna make games much better on this brutal SEC slate in 2 or 3 years instead of watching the Gumps beat everyone else by 30points on the way to 11 or 12 wins every year.

Sooooooooo excited to see us jump out there with Nico and start playing catch up. Texas AnM signed maybe the best class in history in 22 because the rest of the SEC was snoozing.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

The portal destroys one of their pitches which is if you hang in by the time you're a senior you've moved up the depth chart and star on your way to the NFL. Kids today don't want to labor for 3 or 4 years for one year of pay offs. NIL and the portal makes them gone.

If they can get a NIL elsewhere.

 

[dduncan4163]

Everything I see and hear from CJH makes me extremely pleased that Danny White had the foresight to bring him along to Knoxville.

Yup Heup is ahead of the curve. He's one of the first HCs to use the NIL to his advantage and that's gonna put us back on top. We really lucked out Hoss

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Yup Heup is ahead of the curve. He's one of the first HCs to use the NIL to his advantage and that's gonna put us back on top. We really lucked out Hoss

This. So much this. Coach Heup is the real deal folks. Hide and watch us get back to NEVER falling out of the top 25 poll just like in the 1990s. We are probably the hottest recruiting team in the country right now...and we had the 9th most prolific offense in the countryl last season. That was with 25 plus fewer scholarship players than everyone else we played...imagine that offense with consensus 5* players like Nico and Tate.

Good to see ya Big Dog. God bless you and those kids. I know holidays are hard. Proud of you.

 

[dduncan4163]

This. So much this. Coach Heup is the real deal folks. Hide and watch us get back to NEVER falling out of the top 25 poll just like in the 1990s. We are probably the hottest recruiting team in the country right now...and we had the 9th most prolific offense in the countryl last season. That was with 25 plus fewer scholarship players than everyone else we played...imagine that offense with consensus 5* players like Nico and Tate.

Good to see ya Big Dog. God bless you and those kids. I know holidays are hard. Proud of you.

Thank you so much for the kind words brother. It's means the world to me. Also keep preaching it. Heup is the guy that's gonna make us elite again. We were a heartbeat away from 9 wins last season while being undermanned all over the field. Can you imagine what he can do with a full stable of studs. The future is bright orange Hoss