Heupel says he's not leaving

#26
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JOEY’S ALL VOL !!! said:
I don’t understand the mentality of VOL fans that think we couldn’t do better if he left.
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Perhaps you can understand it if you consider that 8-4 was the high-water mark achieved only twice in the thirteen seasons that preceded Heupel's arrival (a period during which we witnessed eight - officially nine - losing seasons).
 
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TJSVOLS said:
I’m sure they could upgrade. Who you got???
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It’s always a crap shoot but, even though they aren’t considered big name hires, I like Jedd Fisch, Bob Chesney, and CJ Kinne, all of them have built programs up and won everywhere they’ve been without the greatest of resources, these are candidates if you aren’t swinging for the fences (which we never ever do historically) that would have my confidence. If we want to spend the money however, the sky is the limit, offer the best of the best even if in retirement and at least make them say no.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I’m not going anywhere this year either. Sexton is tightening up my contract tonight just to make it official.
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I'm on my way out, but I'd like to stay on through the bowl game (if I don't get my way, though, I'm taking all the best posters with me to Tiger Droppings immediately).
 
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DuckInAPen said:
Perhaps you can understand it if you consider that 8-4 was the high-water mark achieved only twice in the thirteen seasons that preceded Heupel's arrival (a period during which we witnessed eight - officially nine - losing seasons).
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I also remember the TN program that won more games than any program in the country in the 90’s including conference championships and a Natty. It can be done here, history proves it. Just because we had AD’s and administrations that settled for garbage hires and we sucked because of it doesn’t mean we have to be overjoyed for being a little better than that. It’s like some TN fans think because we sucked for a decade and half that we can’t be elite anymore no matter what and we should just be thankful that we’re better than average now. I’m not one of those.
 
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“I wouldn’t want low expectations. That’s part of why I want to be here,” Heupel told Low. “We’ll win big.”
 
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JOEY’S ALL VOL !!! said:
I also remember the TN program that won more games than any program in the country in the 90’s including conference championships and a Natty.
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I remember those years well. It was a period marked by stability (only two different head coaches over a thirty-two year period, and 8-4 was hardly the floor).
 
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BigBadVol said:
Stoops was fired. There’s a difference.😂
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Sunday he said "I'm not leaving, why would I?"

Barnhart told him hit the bricks on Monday...but yeah, see your point.

Still think its comical that UK had to know WEEKS ago it was over but waited until the big boys had all pretty much took the good candidates off the table.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Anybody who seriously thought he was leaving for Penn St needs to stop doing drugs
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Anyone that thought Penn State would offer Heupel a job after watching Vandy ass whipped Heupel's team into next week, where Vandy out played...out prepared....out coached UT.....and Heupel was 0-4 against ranked teams, which they fired Franklin for...is delusional ...Add the fact 11 months ago OSU skull drug Heupel and company which is Penn States biggest rival....Yeah, PSU was gonna hire that coach. LMAO. People can't be that stupid, can they?
 
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Tnphil said:
Anyone that thought Penn State would offer Heupel a job after watching Vandy ass whipped Heupel's team into next week, where Vandy out played...out prepared....out coached UT.....and Heupel was 0-4 against ranked teams, which they fired Franklin for...is delusional ...Add the fact 11 months ago OSU skull drug Heupel and company which is Penn States biggest rival....Yeah, PSU was gonna hire that coach. LMAO. People can't be that stupid, can they?
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Correct 💯. They fired a coach that has done more than Heupel
 
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JOEY’S ALL VOL !!! said:
Not sure what your stance is here. Are you stating that stability is the key?
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The key? Not by itself. Maintaining stability with Dooley, Jones, or Pruitt wouldn't have built us a winning program (and maintaining stability with Kiffin would have had us on major probation). But Heupel has just won 38 games (with a shot at 39) over a four year period, something we haven't seen since 2001-2004. In my view, the odds that a replacement would underperform Heupel are much greater than the odds that a replacement would outperform him, and I believe that what he has accomplished here gives reasonable grounds for hope (not certainty) that he will continue to improve the program.
 
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Tnphil said:
Anyone that thought Penn State would offer Heupel a job after watching Vandy ass whipped Heupel's team into next week, where Vandy out played...out prepared....out coached UT.....and Heupel was 0-4 against ranked teams, which they fired Franklin for...is delusional ...Add the fact 11 months ago OSU skull drug Heupel and company which is Penn States biggest rival....Yeah, PSU was gonna hire that coach. LMAO. People can't be that stupid, can they?
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You can imagine the things they fall for online.
 
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DuckInAPen said:
The key? Not by itself. Maintaining stability with Dooley, Jones, or Pruitt wouldn't have built us a winning program (and maintaining stability with Kiffin would have had us on major probation). But Heupel has just won 38 games (with a shot at 39) over a four year period, something we haven't seen since 2001-2004. In my view, the odds that a replacement would underperform Heupel are much greater than the odds that a replacement would outperform him, and I believe that what he has accomplished here gives reasonable grounds for hope (not certainty) that he will continue to improve the program.
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Fair enough, but I personally don’t see any evidence of that. He went backwards here in year 5, he went backwards every year he was at UCF, those are just facts that can’t be disputed. This is the era of the transfer portal and transfers just running rampant, you reload now not rebuild. If you’re rebuilding in year 5 you’re running way behind. All the evidence I see is he hit his ceiling. Could I be wrong? Yes, Do I hope I’m wrong? Yes, but everything so far doesn’t point there. The schedule for next year is on paper much more difficult, 8-4, 7-5, 6-6 or worse is entirely possible, if it plays out that way is that gonna be okay for stability’s sake? Not for me, but to each their own, we’ll watch it play out and see.

GO VOLS!!!
 
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IndianaVol said:
I'm not leaving - Nick Saban at LSUAkl
I'm not leaving - Nick Saban at Miami
I'm not leaving - Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss
I'm not leaving - Urban Meyer at anywhere hes been
I'm not leaving - Mark Stoops (too soon?)
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All true. Circumstances entirely different with some detailed nuance. Not any sort of flex to make a point except they all left for another job. That has zero relevance as to why they all left including the current landscape.. There's no guardrail in college now with P4. Tampering and timing issues need to be reflective of the NFL model and it's strict regs or it it's going to get more out of control
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Yeah.
“Will Michigan come for Butch”
“Will LSU or Georgia want Dooley?”
“Will Heupel leave for Oklahoma, LSU, PSU…?”
They eat it up.
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Penn State has gone all in on BYU's Sitake..He's been their target for awhile...If he takes it I think I'll start a Heupel to BYU thread and watch the coach worshipers squirm.
 
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