Heupel is the betting favorite for Penn State job

Heupel may or may not need to go. I wouldn't know, but I do think he ought to have ultimatums with teeth. I hate it for the younger coaches that are not making "never work again" money, but they know what they are getting into, and they are chasing a dream. They accepted the risks - I feel for the families. The higher paid coaches are big boys making big, BIG boy money. Put up or pack out.

What you are hearing/sensing/seeing, is a fanbase that sees a head coach out of his depth in one or more areas. That is a huge red flag.

With the resources at his disposal-
Heupel either:
1) Can't see the problems that have been present for at least two seasons, or
2) Doesn't know how to correct the problems, or
3) Doesn't care to correct the problems, or
4) Won't do what it takes to correct the problems

... or a combination of the above. The problems on Defense, defensive player recruiting, offensive scheming, Strength and Conditioning, and the most basic of all... tackling... are real. They have not been addressed. Many of those deficiencies have very little relation to the complications of NIL or the transfer portal. They are internal organizational failures.

The problems are not top secret. They are not difficult to point out. None (very few?) of us coach college ball for a living, and certainly none of us coach D1 ball for a living at that level, and yet the same deficiencies have played out each game - with different student athletes - over the last two seasons. (at least).
100%. This may be the greatest post in the history of this board. Well done.
 
Brother that is a propeller plane. You think big Josh and Co. are squeezing into a PC12 when he's getting $9m a year and Penn State is going to pay $10-12m to their next coach?
It's actually a very comfortable plane. Great for flights under 2 hours.
 
If CJH does go to PSU what about Booby Petrino or Ed Orgeron? They seem to have a lot of passion and good success.
 
Also, why would my opinion keep us from winning? Do they take my opinions into account?
Its not so much "your opinion", but that mindset, which seems to be prevalent in our athletic department. They dont want to take chances on established coaches who may have a little history, like Chip Kelly or Petrino, but will hire an unknown/unproven G5 coach.
 
The glaring issue I noticed with Joey all season is his deep ball. He floats them high far too often. When the camera catches up and you see the play developing, our receivers are typically 1-2 steps past the DB. All too often, they have to pull up and wait on the ball. Not talking the 20-30 yards trikes. I'm referencing the 40+ downfield verticals we like early.
I agree. His deep ball isn't very good. Too many times hes avoided catastrophe with under thrown balls. Im grateful for him cause it would have been a 6 win season at best without him. Id would rather take the lumps next year with the sophomore, or spend big on a transfer. Think defensive really needs quite a bit of upgrading, or hopefully some of the young guys that played this year make huge steps.
 
It’s not so much "your opinion", but that mindset, which seems to be prevalent in our athletic department. They dont want to take chances on established coaches who may have a little history, like Chip Kelly or Petrino, but will hire an unknown/unproven G5 coach.
IDK. I don’t know what they would do , we haven’t seen this admin be in the position to hire a football coach in 5 years, and they did take a swing at Franklin who had a little controversy at Vandy.
 
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I agree. His deep ball isn't very good. Too many times hes avoided catastrophe with under thrown balls. Im grateful for him cause it would have been a 6 win season at best without him. Id would rather take the lumps next year with the sophomore, or spend big on a transfer. Think defensive really needs quite a bit of upgrading, or hopefully some of the young guys that played this year make huge steps.
I think the arm is actually there. I think his mechanics on the bombs need tweaking. Seems like he sits his weight back on the back foot and launches it too high too consistently.
 
If he goes, we have to offer Chip Kelly. Similar styles of offense so not much of a transition or a huge roster turnover needed.

Yes, I've said this in multiple threads. But it's the logical choice.
Chip Kelly despises recruiting either for high schoolers or the portal. It’s why he left college for an assistant’s job in the pros. If some college hires him, it will be the NFL there too.
Not For Long.
 
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Chip Kelly despises recruiting either for high schoolers or the portal. It’s why he left college for an assistant’s job in the pros. If some college hires him, it will be the NFL there too.
Not For Long.

Kelly had a good run but I agree, I think he’s pretty well past his prime.

As you said, recruiting and the portal is pretty important in this day & age of college football.
 

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