He's baaack! Fulmer grasps comparisons.

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said he will visit Duke and Ohio State as well as some NFL teams, such as the Miami Dolphins and Indianapolis Colts, to stay on top of scheme changes in football in case he coaches again.
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you know, I just wish he had done that while still a coach at UT. But I'm really wondering what new stuff he will learn from Cut that he didn't see in the many years they spent together
 
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utvolpj said:
you know, I just wish he had done that while still a coach at UT. But I'm really wondering what new stuff he will learn from Cut that he didn't see in the many years they spent together
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utvolpj said:
you know, I just wish he had done that while still a coach at UT. But I'm really wondering what new stuff he will learn from Cut that he didn't see in the many years they spent together
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I was thinking the same thing when I read that.
 
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Lexvol said:
Laments the Clawson hire?
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I don't know that it is Clawson as much as he is lamenting that moment when he decided to release the offense from his 20 year stranglehold. The sad thing is that in hindsight, last year's team probably would have gotten bowl eligible running Fulmer's system.
 
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well hind sight's always 20/20 but he should have taken over for Clawson, after the Auburn game when we couldn't even get with in FG range, despite numerous opportunties in the 4th qtr..

as for comparisons, I sure hope CLK turns out ahead, that means 2 more NC's duriing his tenure
 
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Phillip didn't have the horses to make up for his x's and o's. He should just move on, it got away from him and he knows it. Saving face in this matter is over with and done.
 
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My computer locked up on me as I was posting. I apologize to VolNation for the duplicate post. I hope that it is not already going to be one of those days with these cheap Dell computers.
 
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Blame shifts from Randy Sanders, now to Dave Clawson, who's next? Give me a freaking break, seriously.
 
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Clawson is a better offensive coach than CPF. Disappointing that he would attempt to shift the blame to him.
 
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sjt18 said:
Clawson is a better offensive coach than CPF. Disappointing that he would attempt to shift the blame to him.
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I would say CPF's system had much better results (at a higher level) than Clawson's.
 
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GAVol said:
The sad thing is that in hindsight, last year's team probably would have gotten bowl eligible running Fulmer's system.
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What's more sad is that, if the Vols had been bowl eligible, Fulmer would be UT's head coach right now.

5-7 was necessary, unfortunately.
 
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When fulmer ran the ball to set up the playaction pass, that was our best offense. A offense i had no problem with. Somewhere along the line, either we had to become more balanced because we didn't have the horses or just trying to get cute. I'd say it was because they couldn't just outclass the other team anymore. The sec stepped up their game, changed with the times. Phillip thought he could still run things that won him a title ten years ago. We see where that got him. He remained to loyal to position coaches that weren't getting the job done. Letting players run amuck didn't help either.
 
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We can talk until we are blue in the face about what went wrong under CPF (oh yeah, we already have). What's done is done. Let Phil ponder why things went wrong. I am done with the subject.
 
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utfantilidie said:
Blame shifts from Randy Sanders, now to Dave Clawson, who's next? Give me a freaking break, seriously.
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Offensive coordinators are the reason an offense will be good or bad. Randy Sanders=mediocre OC (mediocre offense for six years), Dave Clawson=horrible OC (horrible offense for one year), David Cutcliffe=great OC (great offense for seven years). Is it any surprise that when an offense is d*mn near last in the nation, that the OC and his new system are blamed? How the hell was that Fulmer's fault?
 
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utvolpj said:
I would say CPF's system had much better results (at a higher level) than Clawson's.
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Yes and no.

CPF's system didn't seem to do a whole lot without Cutcliffe... which begs the question of whether it was the system or the disciplined, execution oriented approach of Cutcliffe.

BTW, Clawson's system is similar to offenses used successfully in the NFL.

I argued that Fulmer wasn't getting in Clawson's way at the time. In many ways, I think he didn't. In two critical ways I think he did.

One, with 2005 fresh in his mind, he wanted to avoid a QB controversy at all costs. That decision helped no one including Crompton.

Two, it was HIS philosophy, not Clawson's, that says you "throw it all at them and see what sticks". That works with the old system which really wasn't a system but rather a playbook containing every play known to man. Clawson, like CLK btw, has a system that has to be built from the foundation up. He did it everywhere he went. It is very likely that he told CPF that it would take a couple of years to do it his way (since Scott told Briscoe that this was the new coaches' understanding). CPF more than likely rejected that idea resulting in the O being installed in a fragmented way.

I defended Fulmer when I thought he was right.... which to many made me a "fulmerite". But Clawson didn't cause his downfall. The fact that he let Chavis be a lazy recruiter and let Sanders stay around as long as he did and lost his momentum in recruiting... and lost team discipline..... had nothing to do with Clawson or his system.

Clawson is far more a victim of the circumstances cultivated by CPF than CPF is a victim of any flaw in Clawson's system.
 
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you are completely ignoring Fulmer's days as an OC. Compare the results
 
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