Here is why we beat UF

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AFL2008 said:
Scenarios where Tennessee can beat Florida:

Florida is -3 in turnovers for the game.
Tim Tebow is injured before and/or during the game.
Tennessee sacks Florida QB's 5 or more times.
Tennessee blocks a punt.

Outside of some of these things happening, Tennessee is not going to beat Florida in Gainesville in 2009. 3rd offense in 3 years, new coaching staff, average players, and Florida's best team in years does not = a good situation for the Vols.
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The turnover or special teams theories you mention are valid, but those are mental mistakes caused by lack of focus. The flip side of Kiffin's "get under thier skin and antagnoize them" approach to league politics is that the Gators' focus for this game will probably be as sharp as ever.
 
#27
#27
lawgator1 said:
The turnover or special teams theories you mention are valid, but those are mental mistakes caused by lack of focus. The flip side of Kiffin's "get under thier skin and antagnoize them" approach to league politics is that the Gators' focus for this game will probably be as sharp as ever.
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You hope, too, but do not know that will be true.

It's just Florida for God sakes. The nouveau riche.

Essentially, South Carolina on a really good 15 year run.

I expect to win. So should everyone else.
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JohnWardForever said:
Fulmer wasn't concerned with the spread----just get a 10 pt lead and sit on it. We all know how that worked out---Fla--06. I expect Kiffin's teams to play till the gun sounds; therefore----Put anything you want on UT--30? vs WKU. Prediction---TN--49---WK--6. :good!:
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That seems reasonable. WKU is a horrible team so it wouldn't suprise me to see us score around 50 in that one.
 
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#29
If Florida runs a Pro-style offense it will benifit us more because Monte is used to stopping these types of offenses.
 
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General Jack said:
Agree on all counts. We'll also need to shorten the game and limit positions as much as possible, while making the most of the possessions we do have.

Do you believe the hype about tebow being under center and trying to establish a power run game this season?
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Based on the first two practices, it's hard to say. Florida has practiced I-formation hand offs/drop backs etc... Meyer adds something new to the UF offense every single year, as well.

So yes. UF will use some I-formation. I'm not sure how much. Maybe not more than 3-5 plays a game. Additionally, you should expect the UF offense to run a lot of no-huddle this year, adding 10-15 offensive plays to their attack. Apparently, the coaching staff was impressed with OU's fast pace last year and they've been working on it since spring.

But what you have to understand, is that even if UF lines up in the I formation, the same "spread" principles that Meyer uses will be in effect. Just because the formation changes doesn't mean the basic fundamental principles of the offense will change.

About the power run: UF has always had a power run. They just usually run it out of big shotgun formations.
 
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General Jack said:
Why do you think, just because they'll be implementing something new and possibly not have all the kinks worked out?

Personally I think we'll do better against spread offenses than straight up smash mouth football. Seems like our defense is built more for speed than power.
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Simply makes it easier to defend. When UF spreads you out and gets those one on one matchups they got you playing their game. Pro-style sets and packing everything in... negates some of that speed. Thats not were their bread is buttered and meyer knows that. He built that offense around speed and getting guys in space. Thats exactly how they'll win most if not all of their games. Even using the pro-style a little bit helps their chances of not repeating. They're not built for a power run game unless they use tebow on option all the time. I'd love to see him take all those hits, but meyer won't allow that to happen.
 
#32
#32
I-formation DOES NOT necessarily mean that they will be running the "pro style."

I-formation can still be used to spread the field. Especially with an atheltic TE like Aaron Hernandez, and with the fast players at RB that can move out to the WR position.

Forcing teams to spend time to preapre on some I-formation makes UF that much harder to prepare for.
 
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AFL2008 said:
I-formation DOES NOT necessarily mean that they will be running the "pro style."

I-formation can still be used to spread the field. Especially with an atheltic TE like Aaron Hernandez, and with the fast players at RB that can move out to the WR position.

Forcing teams to spend time to preapre on some I-formation makes UF that much harder to prepare for.
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Having tebow makes them harder to defend. He's the wildcard in everything they do. We defend i-formation and pro-style better simply because we practice against it.
 
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#35
AFL2008 said:
Scenarios where Tennessee can beat Florida:

Florida is -3 in turnovers for the game.
Tim Tebow is injured before and/or during the game.
Tennessee sacks Florida QB's 5 or more times.
Tennessee blocks a punt.

Outside of some of these things happening, Tennessee is not going to beat Florida in Gainesville in 2009. 3rd offense in 3 years, new coaching staff, average players, and Florida's best team in years does not = a good situation for the Vols.
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I'm afraid it may take all 4 scenarios above for us to win in Gainesville.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The turnover or special teams theories you mention are valid, but those are mental mistakes caused by lack of focus. The flip side of Kiffin's "get under thier skin and antagnoize them" approach to league politics is that the Gators' focus for this game will probably be as sharp as ever.
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Have you ever played ball? Big hype actually reduces focus.
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#38
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I guess its possible that FL would be hyped to the point of distraction, but I thought lawgator was basically saying that they will be motivated for this game and will not overlook us nor take us for granted like might have been the case with Ole Miss last year. If that's what he's saying, I'd have to agree. But then, I would think that FL would have been up for UT despite Kiffin saying anything at all.
 
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orangebloodgmc said:
I guess its possible that FL would be hyped to the point of distraction, but I thought lawgator was basically saying that they will be motivated for this game and will not overlook us nor take us for granted like might have been the case with Ole Miss last year. If that's what he's saying, I'd have to agree. But then, I would think that FL would have been up for UT despite Kiffin saying anything at all.
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We never catch them napping it seems like. They usually don't make many mistakes against us either. On the other hand we usually save some of our worst football for the game with UF. Be nice if the roles could be reversed every once in awhile. Right now they just have better players and even catching them partially napping probably won't be enough.
 
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Cartervol said:
We never catch them napping it seems like. They usually don't make many mistakes against us either. On the other hand we usually save some of our worst football for the game with UF. Be nice if the roles could be reversed every once in awhile. Right now they just have better players and even catching them partially napping probably won't be enough.
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Our change in guard should really help in the mental block aspect of the series. Florida was the boogieman in fulmer's closet.... and it rubbed off on our players. We usually seemed to play and coach scared. I absolutely do not believe that will be the case this year.
 
#41
#41
oddly enough i am one of tha very few people that believe that we have a chance to beat UF. only because i am a strong believer in tha game is not over until tha 4th quarter wit tha clock reading 0:00. and everyone else is givin UF tha game before it even starts for all we know TEBLOW could go down like brady did last year. i refuse to give up hope on our VOLS
 
#42
#42
Maybe UF will come out against Troy and CSU and just look utterly terrible on offense without Harvin. Maybe Spikes and Tebow go down with injury by week 3. You never know. Smart money says UF wins though. I bet the spread will shrink to 3 TD's by gameday. Unless Tennessee loses a game.
 
#43
#43
The stength of UFs running game, is getting those small, speedy backs up to speed before they get the ball. That is why their running attack is hard to defend. UM is good designing formations that allows this. Its like they are in 4th gear, when the D is in second. Tebow is their power game, plan and simple. I think their running game will look different when he is gone.
 
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AFL2008 said:
Maybe UF will come out against Troy and CSU and just look utterly terrible on offense without Harvin. Maybe Spikes and Tebow go down with injury by week 3. You never know. Smart money says UF wins though. I bet the spread will shrink to 3 TD's by gameday. Unless Tennessee loses a game.
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Except for the Zook years maybe, how Florida played before they played UT rarely meant much. Several years they'd look very beatable prior to UT only for them to come out firing on all cylinders.

All this talk and hype is great and all, but I'll believe it when I see it.
 
#45
#45
Cartervol said:
We never catch them napping it seems like. They usually don't make many mistakes against us either. On the other hand we usually save some of our worst football for the game with UF. Be nice if the roles could be reversed every once in awhile. Right now they just have better players and even catching them partially napping probably won't be enough.
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They don't make mistakes because we never force any. The defense this year has focused on stripping the ball and creating turnovers.

I don't expect to win but I think we have a chance. Actually I think the pressure is all on them. It will be humiliating to them if they don't blow us out. The longer the game stays close, the tighter their players will become, which may be all we need.

Another thing I don't think we see with Kiffin is the "Play not to lose" attitude. I think Lane has a little Spurrier in him and will want to put points on the board early and often.
 
#46
#46
BigPapaVol said:
Have you ever played ball? Big hype actually reduces focus.
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Sure, but not for many years, I'll admit.

The hype around this game will be monumental. The press will be all over both teams, and particularly Tebow and Berry, going into this one.

Tebow has handled this level of attention with great alacrity for three years. I'm not worried about that distraction factor much at all.

General Jack said:
He must not be familiar with the Art of War either. I would never expect to be impressed with Law's expertise on football.
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Good because that way you will never be disappointed.


BeecherVol said:
The stength of UFs running game, is getting those small, speedy backs up to speed before they get the ball. That is why their running attack is hard to defend. UM is good designing formations that allows this. Its like they are in 4th gear, when the D is in second. Tebow is their power game, plan and simple. I think their running game will look different when he is gone.
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Agreed on all points.
 
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