He’s a good kid

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angrypug said:
I been around for a long time and this may get deleted, but screw Nico being such a good guy. His and his whole family are just out for some money. They never gave a hoot about Tennessee or the fans and that makes me sick. Guarantor crapnfor years from everyone. Including me. The guy is all vol dispite how he was treated. This whole thing pisses me off.

I’m very sick so please excuse grammar.
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If you ever changed jobs for a raise, your post is utter hypocrisy.
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
If you ever changed jobs for a raise, your post is utter hypocrisy.
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... Imo, your rhetoric is apples to sports cars.

"Normal", average work place jobs are not built on an intense culture of discipline, years of extraordinary dedication to preparation and hard-work, seldom days off, and are not comparable to the penultimate TEAM sport in all of the world's TEAM sports and competitions, that is-- the game of american football.

What Nico and his family did, was "declare to the world from the the mountains tops", that HE and his family are ABOVE and come before all of that. They confessed to anyone with an ear to the sport of football that their idea of family is hyper-exclusive and DOES NOT RESPECT the ancestors of the sport and culture that they attempt to raid. It closes the book on which direction Nico's moral compass is being lead, and is currently at.

I get having a fam first mentality, but what about your football BROS, football FAM?
What about the men and women who toiled in the sport, both on and off the field before Nico, who made it so he has the opportunity to get a "bag" AND all the other trappings that come with honoring the core principles of the sport.
His actions scream that the former players who stood on those principles, that came before him be d***ned! And, that Nico and his wallet come before all of them, as well.

And that, imo, is how this is different than the average Joe, job hopping for a couple more bucks on the hour a/o better health insurance.
 
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I'm afraid this is going to be the predominant situation now. There may be a few "home boys", and I mean that both literally (geographical) or figuratively ( family connections, childhood favorites), that will be all Vol but many/most are now in it for the money whether we like it or not.
 
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10seV4L said:
... Imo, your rhetoric is apples to sports cars.

"Normal", average work place jobs are not built on an intense culture of discipline, years of extraordinary dedication to preparation and hard-work, seldom days off, and are not comparable to the penultimate TEAM sport in all of the world's TEAM sports and competitions, that is-- the game of american football.

What Nico and his family did, was "declare to the world from the the mountains tops" that HE and his family are ABOVE and come before all of that. They confessed to anyone with an ear to the sport of football that their idea of family is hyper-exclusive and DOES NOT RESPECT the ancestors of the sport and culture that they attempt to raid. It closes the book on which direction Nico's moral compass is being lead, and is currently.

I get having a fam first mentality, but what about your football BROS, football FAM? What about the men and women who toiled in the sport, both on and off the field before, who made it so he has the opportunity to get a "bag" AND all the other trappings that come with honoring the core principles of the sport. His actions scream that the former players who stood on those principles before him be d***ned! And that, Nico and his wallet come before any of that.

And that, imo, is how this is different than the average Joe, job hopping for a couple more bucks on the hour a/o better health insurance.
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Your first comment is absolutely bogus.
Many "average jobs" are built exactly on those things. Construction. The military. Mining. Farming. Fire-Rescue. Policing. Teaching. Nursing.

You just don't like having your own rules applied to you. That is indeed nauseating hypocrisy. 🤮🤮🤮
 
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You absolutely CANNOT call someone all VOL that pulls this stunt. Ask a real VFL how THEY feel about NicNo. Ask local sports talk show host Jason Swain how he feels. You might get your eardrums peeled.
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
Your first comment is absolutely bogus.
Many "average jobs" are built exactly on those things. Construction. The military. Mining. Farming. Fire-Rescue. Policing. Teaching. Nursing.

You just don't like having your own rules applied to you. That is indeed nauseating hypocrisy. 🤮🤮🤮
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Bless your heart. In any of the job fields you listed, is proclaiming yourself bigger than the company/organization (through words and/or actions) a path to advancement?

Might you be a relative and/or representative of a certain Southern California native who happens to be a recently-minted ex-Vol?
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
If you ever changed jobs for a raise, your post is utter hypocrisy.
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Last I checked Nico and company was holding UT hostage and it flat backfired. They thought they had UT between a rock and hard place with inexperienced QBs in the wings....He waited the day before the Spring game to pull his $hit and it didn't work...He was told to git. Classic!

If he came to Heupel and said I've been offered 4 million to play for XY University and before I come to a decision can you offer the same, then fine. Anyone that pulled Nicos $hit to their current employers is as sorry as he is in my book.
 
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angrypug said:
I been around for a long time and this may get deleted, but screw Nico being such a good guy. His and his whole family are just out for some money. They never gave a hoot about Tennessee or the fans and that makes me sick. Guarantor crapnfor years from everyone. Including me. The guy is all vol dispite how he was treated. This whole thing pisses me off.

I’m very sick so please excuse grammar.
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People...move on, please.
 
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TNVOLFN said:
I think what this fanbase needed was another thread about a 20 year old adult who plays for another team.
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I think some grown a22 adults are way to invested in someone else's 20 year.old son. They even want to trash him like he's garbage. Not even mentioning that we probably have about 20% factual information about what even happened. This is disturbing honestly.
 
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Earlier I had felt Nico was a good kid burdened by an overbearing father. The more I read/learn, the less convinced I am. Might not be a.bad fella, but he certainly has a lot of growing up to do.
 
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10seV4L said:
"Normal", average work place jobs are not built on an intense culture of discipline, years of extraordinary dedication to preparation and hard-work, seldom days off, and are not comparable to the penultimate TEAM sport in all of the world's TEAM sports and competitions, that is-- the game of american football.
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I'll play with this one.... Being a professional pilot takes years of discipline, and 'normally' years of playing second fiddle. Working lots of holidays, missing birthdays, flying weekends (which I really don't mind anyway... easier to get a tee time on Wednesday). Medical and other 'professional' occupations also take away those things. But the rewards, both financial and personal are worth of the sacrifice. As Indiana Jones said... "fortune and glory kid". Regardless, my point in this is that athletes are LABOR. The crime we are seeing here started in the pros when LABOR was allowed enough leverage to dictate what the team's manager was able to do. In the case of college football, they can/are and will continue to destroy the best efforts of the coaching staff. And yes, I'm standing by for the inevitable - yeah but coaches have been doing it for decades - and that is correct, but two wrongs don't make it right. As someone said, we.. the fans now are rooting for the jersey and the school we all have such affection for. The average player anymore doesn't GAS about any of that. I think we also need to do away with senior day while we are at it, except for certain players... true VFLs... like Zakai.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
And he's not a kid. He's a 20 year old legal adult and was getting paid 2 million a year. I dont care who his daddy is. I hold Nico and Nico alone responsible!
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I think it’s comical the way “kid” is thrown around these days.
I remember my Dad telling me when I was 14 that I was no longer a kid.
He was right and I was better for understanding that as well……
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
Your first comment is absolutely bogus.
Many "average jobs" are built exactly on those things. Construction. The military. Mining. Farming. Fire-Rescue. Policing. Teaching. Nursing.

You just don't like having your own rules applied to you. That is indeed nauseating hypocrisy. 🤮🤮🤮
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... You got me on the military (got my DD214). However, I DO NOT consider that an average Joe job; it's nauseating that you do 😉🤮.

The services and teams are another league of their own with regards to commitment, teamwork, etc...

(But still yet, most enlistees do not spend nearly a decade of their lives prior, preparing and committing to TEAMWORK, coaches, and processes similar to the comparison you try to make to American football players).

And as lofty as your aspirations for the other examples (occupations) you listed are-- it is not realistic, again imo, to compare them to competitors of team sports making millions off of brands and fans that predicate the evolution of the platform for decades, where there is an unspoken, but established and understandable culture in place that is the heart of the sport immemorial.

With all due respect, all of the occupations you listed do not require the years of prior dedication to the TEAM philosophy and craft, to make it to the D1 level or equivalent, in any of the occupations listed above or otherwise; again excluding the high speed operators and OUR enlisted men and women CONUS and OCONUS, "Huah!". With respect again, anyone can volunteer extra commitment to their civilian mos, but it isn't required to achieve such goals at such levels. Surely, that makes sense right?

We're not disputing civil purpose for comparison or grievance. We're talking about a very accountable young man, and his family benefiting and disrespecting an entire culture and brand that provided him the platform and opportunity for him, Nico to prosper. Then he betrayed all that made it so, in an egregious display and fashion.
I wish your principles allowed you to understand what I am attempting to explain and enlighten you with ..
 
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angrypug said:
I been around for a long time and this may get deleted, but screw Nico being such a good guy. His and his whole family are just out for some money. They never gave a hoot about Tennessee or the fans and that makes me sick. Guarantor crapnfor years from everyone. Including me. The guy is all vol dispite how he was treated. This whole thing pisses me off.

I’m very sick so please excuse grammar.
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I think you meant to type Guarantano and got auto-corrected. This isn't comparable. He had already graduated, and decided to use his COVID extra season to try his luck somewhere else. We had Hendon and Joe coming in, and JG was going to have to learn a new system no matter where he went.

Jarrett did what he was asked, even when he struggled. He always gave his all for Tennessee, and still supports the program now. To me he is a VFL.

Nico is a guy who plays for UCLA. Best of luck to him there. I'm more interested in quarterbacks wearing orange, not ones wearing baby blue. Especially since I am moving back to Tennessee in a few weeks, after 37 years in North Carolina. I won't have to rely on YouTubeTV to see the team play anymore.
 
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The Nico experiment failed and failed miserably, yes, we were 10-3, but the collapse at Arkansas was preceeded by a hang on against Oklahoma, overtime against a subpar Florida team and unorganized Alabama team, showed the continued lack of development of Nico other than his bank account. Hopefully Huepel will not recruit any more kids from California unless they play at the higher levels of the high school leagues.
 
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angrypug said:
I been around for a long time and this may get deleted, but screw Nico being such a good guy. His and his whole family are just out for some money. They never gave a hoot about Tennessee or the fans and that makes me sick. Guarantor crapnfor years from everyone. Including me. The guy is all vol dispite how he was treated. This whole thing pisses me off.

I’m very sick so please excuse grammar.
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Nico never cared about Tennessee. We met his NIL demands so he committed. Looking back, the G-wagon photoshoot was the writing on the wall. The sad part is we don't really know if it's him or his dad who is so money hungry. Someone said his dad is Lavar Ball without the charm, sound about right.
 
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TartanTurff said:
Hopefully Huepel will not recruit any more kids from California
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Keep seeing this take and it's just laughable. Ridiculous. TN has had plenty of good recruits come from CA. Let's keep politics out of football. If a kid can play at a high level I really don't care where he's from.
 
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