Has the transfer portal reduced the value of high school recruiting?

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Just a serious question. I know that high school recruiting gets all the attention, but has it lost most of its luster due to the new world related to the transfer portal?
 
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No because just like the NFL, you cannot build your roster on free agents (i.e. transfers). You need a solid base in recruiting and use transfers to fill immediate needs and you need to really have a high success rate on those. Your culture is built with recruits that came to you from HS and learned the system. You need that so transfers that come in can quickly assimilate and fall in line. Too many transfers and you will have a me me me attitude that's prevalent.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't teams limited to how many they can pull from portal? If so, it's not nearly enough to fill a roster. TN, I think can pull up to 7 this year. If this is the case, recruiting high school athletes will still be in big demand.
 
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What I hope is that it helps to create a little more parity in the sport. I dont think teams will ever be able to build a championship roster solely off of transfers but it might help plug holes that could be the difference between a losing record and a winning record or between 8-4 and 10-2.
 
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OrangeJuicebox said:
I think at the very least it has made high school recruiting less critical.
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It will be interesting to see who manages to strike the right balance. It's tempting to bring in a bunch of guys for a quick fix, but in the end, high school recruiting is still going to be where it's at. It also seems to me that the more transfers you bring in, the more you open yourself up to guys leaving.
 
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It'll be game changer in the sense that teams can rebuild a program much quicker through the portal, but it can't possibly replace the value of a highly rated recruiting class... My biggest fear - and it's going to happen - is that the rich will get richer through the portal; that is Bama and Georgia will have their pick of the litter.
 
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Sara Clark said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't teams limited to how many they can pull from portal? If so, it's not nearly enough to fill a roster. TN, I think can pull up to 7 this year. If this is the case, recruiting high school athletes will still be in big demand.
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If you have 25 available spots in your signing class? You can fill them with portal transfers. Doesn’t differentiate. The up to 7 number is REPLACING lost transfers and those can be applied to high school signees. It’s all about initial counters.
 
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TNVOLFN said:
It'll be game changer in the sense that teams can rebuild a program much quicker through the portal, but it can't possibly replace the value of a highly rated recruiting class... My biggest fear - and it's going to happen - is that the rich will get richer through the portal; that is Bama and Georgia will have their pick of the litter.
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Or conversely the rich will get poorer as top talent sitting on their benches will hit the portal, looking for immediate playing time elsewhere, more evenly distributing talent.

Case in point: today 6’ 3” Ohio State backup QB Jack Miller 4* from Scottsdale AZ hit the portal bc he rode the bench after an “impaired driving” arrest. Chance to clean his slate and start over elsewhere if he’s got the wherewithal.
 
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TNVOLFN said:
It'll be game changer in the sense that teams can rebuild a program much quicker through the portal, but it can't possibly replace the value of a highly rated recruiting class... My biggest fear - and it's going to happen - is that the rich will get richer through the portal; that is Bama and Georgia will have their pick of the litter.
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Lot of players enter the portal to IMPROVE their playing time. The truly elite aren’t a majority. That 5 star stuck behind 1-2 others on a Bama or UGA depth chart used to ride it out and only squeak out a season or two at the most at another destination. Now with immediate eligibility, they can improve their prospects faster and are more motivated towards that end. Imagine Kamara realizing his error at Bama and skipping the juco route. Would have been here with Hurd as a freshman and possibly able to carve out more usage since there was a lot of playing time available that season.
 
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I think it's already changing things in many ways. The rich will get richer in that they can cherry pick the best players from the coaching carousel. (See Alabama) They will also have the extra "analysts" to keep tabs on everybody else's roster. A team will also need to continuously recruit their own players to keep them out of the portal. Should make it easier to fix short term problems for teams on the rise that have something to attract players (See Tennessee). I'm also interested in how this coupled with NIL$$ changes the landscape. The teams that coordinate the two well will have a big advantage. I think firing coaches early will start to hurt schools more. They lose players to the portal as well as handing all their Booster cash to their dear departed coach when they really want it to attract players with NIL deals. (See LSU ($20M) & UF ($12M))
 
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butchna said:
If you have 25 available spots in your signing class? You can fill them with portal transfers. Doesn’t differentiate. The up to 7 number is REPLACING lost transfers and those can be applied to high school signees. It’s all about initial counters.
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Sounds like it could easily turn in to a balancing act.
 
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TNVOLFN said:
It'll be game changer in the sense that teams can rebuild a program much quicker through the portal, but it can't possibly replace the value of a highly rated recruiting class... My biggest fear - and it's going to happen - is that the rich will get richer through the portal; that is Bama and Georgia will have their pick of the litter.
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There will be a trickle down effect though. For every transfer that Bama gets, thats one less scholarship spot open for a quality HS player. So that player in turn goes to a smaller school or to a program that might not be a perennial power school and helps them improve.

I'm all for the transfer portal but as Ive said before, players should only be allowed to use it once without penalty and they should not be allowed to enter it until season end.
 
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Transfer used to be a dirty word in college football. Now it seems like the best idea they ever had. It's going to give a lot of kids who might have rode (ridden?) the pine for four years an opportunity to play. It for sure gives teams a chance to fill some holes on their rosters.
 
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Sara Clark said:
Sounds like it could easily turn in to a balancing act.
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The successful programs will fall way less as they learn. I’m guilty of this upon learning of the instant eligibility rule. There was the mindset that this would be the same shell game as building your program through JUCOs ala Snyder at Kansas State. But it’s way different. Best case (and rare) via that method, you’d have a player with 3 years. Much more able to snag better fits with 4 years who’ve spent a season in class and college level weight training. If your recruiting rises as you succeed, your mentioned balancing can be a viable alternative to traditional building. One and dones that have pro prospects will always be that final piece for coaches that get it right…not the norm.
 
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I think HS recruiting is needed but I think coaches are going to be more selective on who they offer. If you have a team like TN. You're going to want ready to go day 1 players with eligibility first and then HS to train bring up. With the way TN plays. Even a 3rd string Defensive HS guy should be able to get some playing time at TN and that'll only make them better the next year.
 
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butchna said:
If you have 25 available spots in your signing class? You can fill them with portal transfers. Doesn’t differentiate. The up to 7 number is REPLACING lost transfers and those can be applied to high school signees. It’s all about initial counters.
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Classes are now expanded to account for the 25 normal recruits and then allow to replace those departed due to the Transfer Portal up to 32 total. Sources: Immediate Signing Class Expansion Recommended
 
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Sara Clark said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't teams limited to how many they can pull from portal? If so, it's not nearly enough to fill a roster. TN, I think can pull up to 7 this year. If this is the case, recruiting high school athletes will still be in big demand.
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I think I saw where Texas State built their entire class on transfers so I dont believe there is a limit on how many they can take.
 
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Making it more like the NFL.

The stars sign long term deals.

The average Joe's tend to move to another team after the initial 4-5 year deal expires
 
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The "rich" can overcome recruiting mistakes real fast with the portal. No more kids staying 4 years without being a starter at an Alabama, Ohio st.
 
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