Hamilton's Job on the Line with New Hire

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Just for VolfanBill:

Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton is working on the biggest business decision of his career looking for a new head coach for the Vols.

If Hamilton makes the right pick, chances are he won't be faced with a more pivotal decision the rest of his career.

Should Hamilton's pick not work out, there's a chance he could end up having to begin his career as an athletic director at another school.

It shouldn't be that cut and dry - Hamilton has served UT as well as most any athletic director in the nation with his other coaching hires, the Vols' commitment and success in non-revenue sports, his ability to fundraise and upgrade facilities and the relationship he builds with his coaches.

But we're talking UT football, and there's a bottom line, even for guys with streets named after them and national championship trophies.

Winning means fans in the seats, and fans in the seats means money, and money means being able to build and upgrade premium facilities, and premium facilities means being able to recruit great players to keep winning.

So goes the cycle.

So it only makes sense that Hamilton would prefer as little interference as possible during the coaching search.

When it gets out that he has "lead'' candidates, such as Butch Davis, or more recently, Brian Kelly, it has the potential to gum up the process is a few ways.

For one, those coaches are currently leading other teams, and "distraction" is a dirty word in any team sport.

Just look at how Fulmer's firing has affected the Vols - just went you thought the team couldn't possibly play any worse on offense, Wyoming comes to town.

The second reason Hamilton wants things kept quiet is the matter of confidentiality.

Hamilton & Co. have done a wonderful job keeping the job interviews they have done private. That helps UT save face when a high-profile coach, such as a Bill Cowher, says "No.''

It also builds credibility in Hamilton, that he is powerful and effective enough to keep things mum in his office.

Thirdly, there's the matter of negotiations. Tricky business to be sure when you're dealing with mastermind negotiators like Jimmy Sexton, who has come up with some of the most creative and lucrative deals of our lifetime.

So it's understandable that Hamilton is in no hurry to confirm or deny UT's interest in any candidates.

The last candidate Hamilton wants written or talked about at this juncture in the process is the one he has the most interest in.

There's a very good chance he hasn't interviewed that candidate yet, be it Kelly, Davis or perhaps even Mike Leach.

But once their names get out, through various sources close to the program or close to the money people in the program, the candidate goes on trial with the fans.

The Google search engines start up: winning percentages and statistics are examined, various off-field issues are put under the microscope and fans weigh in on their preferences.

All of this makes one wonder why Hamilton would pull the trigger on Fulmer with three games left in Tennessee's season.

In hindsight, would it have been better to let the Big Guy finish out the season, thereby minimizing the distractions the UT players had to deal with while maximizing the recruiting commitments?

Hamilton is a sophisticated businessman, and that means there had to be a reason he fired Fulmer early.

It could be as simple as Hamilton wanting to ensure a big gate for the Vols' regular season finale with Kentucky.

It could be as innocent as one of the reasons that he gave, that he wanted the Vols' fans to be able to "honor" Fulmer.

Or the reason(s) could be incredibly complex, and we might never really know the whole story (See Johnny Majors' firing).

For now, Tennessee football is in a fog, with different sources saying different things on different days to different people.

And that's just the way Hamilton would prefer it stays.

It's hard to blame him. Hamilton knows better than anyone that - fair or not -- his job, ultimately, could be on the line with this hire.

GoVolsXtra - Ask Griff
 
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That's what I thought, but some on this site seem to think he gets a pass if he hires the wrong guy. I vehemently disagreee.
 
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That's what I thought, but some on this site seem to think he gets a pass if he hires the wrong guy. I vehemently disagreee.

The guy's job is most certainly on the line, but he has several options that will preserve it. It really comes down to whether MH tries to hire some unknown to build his own reputation while risking the UT football program. Vols fans would not stand for that, imo.
 
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The guy's job is most certainly on the line, but he has several options that will preserve it. It really comes down to whether MH tries to hire some unknown to build his own reputation while risking the UT football program. Vols fans would not stand for that, imo.

It doesn't look like he has much of a choice.
 
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So now you are using the journalistic merits of mike griff? He wrote this article to get some pub. Thanks to people like you, he did. When it comes time to review hamilton's job, the people that matter will see even if he makes one bad hire here, the good still outweigh the bad. Take it from someone who has spent just about the last decade in and around sports media, when a reporter writes an editorial with no serious direct quotes, said reporter has no story
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The guy's job is most certainly on the line, but he has several options that will preserve it. It really comes down to whether MH tries to hire some unknown to build his own reputation while risking the UT football program. Vols fans would not stand for that, imo.

That would be petty and I haven't seen or read anything to suggest that he would do that. I think he will try to find the best candidate available, though.

It may come down to if Hamilton realizes soon enough that it was a bad hire and deals with it immediately (Jeremy Foley and Ron Zook).
 
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So now you are using the journalistic merits of mike griff? He wrote this article to get some pub. Thanks to people like you, he did. When it comes time to review hamilton's job, the people that matter will see even idf he makes one bad hire here, the good still outweigh the bad. Take it from someone who has just about the last decade in and around sports media, when a reporter writes an editorial with no serious direct quotes, said reporter has no story
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My point was that people are saying this, everywhere. You tried to say they weren't. But you shift your argument around so frequently it's hard to keep track of, I understand.

I just don't see how you can sit there and argue in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary that Hamilton's job is safe regardless of what happens with this hire. That's simply not the case.
 
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it is just like the new coach -- none of us, journalist or peon, really knows who it will be and none of us really knows if the wrong hire will deep six MH.
 
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My point was that people are saying this, everywhere. You tried to say they weren't. But you shift your argument around so frequently it's hard to keep track of, I understand.

I just don't see how you can sit there and argue in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary that Hamilton's job is safe regardless of what happens with this hire. That's simply not the case.

I've not shifted my argument anywhere. Your "experts" so far have been bloggers, podunk reporters and shock reporters with no quotes or actual facts to use in their shoddy reporting. Find me a quote from someone that actually matters and I'll start listening.
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I've not shifted my argument anywhere. Your "experts" so far have been bloggers, podunk reporters and shock reporters with no quotes or actual facts to use in their shoddy reporting. Find me a quote from someone that actually matters and I'll start listening.
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No you won't. You'll just come up with some other excuse and stick to your original argument. Why don't you point me to someone anywhere in the media who is saying that his job is NOT on the line?

Come on now. I'm waiting.
 
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No you won't. You'll just come up with some other excuse and stick to your original argument. Why don't you point me to someone anywhere in the media who is saying that his job is NOT on the line?

Come on now. I'm waiting.

Because that wouldn't attract the uninformed masses like yourself. I am still waiting on an actual fact for your argument.
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Mike Griffith is an idiot. The fact that you use him for a source says a lot

I used it merely to illustrate a point that people are talking about this. Not as an end-all to the discussion. I think we can all agree that it is subjective. I am of the opinion that if Hammy screws it up, then he is out.
 
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Because that wouldn't attract the uninformed masses like yourself. I am still waiting on an actual fact for your argument.
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You are waiting on me? I am waiting on you. I am not asking for anything more than you are. I've already produced many sources that agree with me. Where are yours? Come on. Where's someone anywhere, blogger or KNS reporter that thinks Hammy is safe?
 
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No you won't. You'll just come up with some other excuse and stick to your original argument. Why don't you point me to someone anywhere in the media who is saying that his job is NOT on the line?

Come on now. I'm waiting.

Why would anyone in the media have occasion to write such a piece unless there is some clamor for a firing? That's like saying Saban or Myer's job is on the line unless somebody can point out an article saying their jobs are safe.
 
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I used it merely to illustrate a point that people are talking about this. Not as an end-all to the discussion. I think we can all agree that it is subjective. I am of the opinion that if Hammy screws it up, then he is out.

No, your argument has been all the experts claiming hamilton would get canned. Of course people are talking about. People talked about firing fulmer for five years. Your list of "experts" can't even be combined to make one credible source.
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No, your argument has been all the experts claiming hamilton would get canned. Of course people are talking about. People talked about firing fulmer for five years. Your list of "experts" can't even be combined to make one credible source.
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Don't tell me what my argument is. I know full and well what it is. I never said "all the experts". I just said experts are saying it. And they are. People more in touch with the situation than you or I are saying that. You can argue who is an expert all you like. It doesn't change the fact that people that are paid to know are saying something entirely different than you are. And you still have no proof, expert or not, backing up your side of the argument.
 
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On thing is for certain after Monday’s press conference announcing the resignation of long time coach Phillip Fulmer—Mike Hamilton is on the proverbial “hot seat”.
The atmosphere inside the Wolf-Kaplan media center yesterday was one overflowing with emotion. Coach Fulmer entered the room to a standing ovation from players, family, friends, and even members of the media. His players, whom he refers to as his family, were clearly distraught. There wasn’t a dry eye in the room amongst his players and many spoke about him being the only father figure they have ever known. Players like Vladimir Richard who grew up in a foster home, and William Brimfield who grew up without a father said Fulmer is the closest thing a father they will ever know. It was clear his family hurt for him.
At a four p.m. team meeting, just an hour prior to the press conference, Fulmer entered the meeting room to a standing ovation from the players where he informed him he wouldn’t be retained. As the meeting drew to a close Fulmer let his players know athletic director Mike Hamilton wish to address the team. In unison the players got up and left the room and Hamilton entered to an empty room. The players had left as a family and took their normal Volwalk that includes a trek across Phillip Fulmer way on campus. The mob held up traffic on campus as they made their march to show support for their coach at the press conference.
After Fulmer’s nearly eight minute resignation speech Hamilton addressed the hundreds of people that included many boosters and former players such as the Haslam family and former kicker Jeff Hall among others. Vlad Richard, who had to be consoled by teammates Jacques McClendon as the tears flowed from his eyes, spoke up for the players letting them know that Hamilton “has nothing to say to us, all the players leave” Once again the team got up in unison and left the room, disrupting Hamilton’s speech and further pointing out he was clearly the outcast in the room. Before leaving senior receiver Josh Briscoe asked Hamilton when making a dollar became more important than the Tennessee family and tradition.
I say all of that to say this— Fulmer is a legend at Tennessee and is loved by all that new him. For a school that will always claim football as the flagship of the university, Hamilton is now squarely behind the eight ball as he begins the process of putting a new face on Tennessee football. If he doesn’t hit a homerun with his selection of only the sixth coach in Tennessee history the good will he created with the hiring of Bruce Pearl to resurrect the basketball program will disappear faster than Fulmer’s clout for the 1998 National Championship. And Hamilton will be the one looking for new employment.
 
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Ok sab, I won't tell you what your argument is, but since it has evidently changed since the last time we discussed this, do you mind telling the rest of VN what exactly your argument is?
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I'm still waiting.
Good work sab. Your 429th story with no actual facts or quotes from key people. Again, as has already been said, there's no reason to write an article defending hamilton because his job isn't in serious jeopardy yet.
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Tell ya what sab. When I gety home I will write an article about hamilton's job security. It will hold as much weight as your "experts".
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