Gun control debate (merged)

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#17,978
Rasputin_Vol said:
Because it bought you time to load up on your AK rounds before the price doubled. You could have told us...
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Gave up on AKs years ago. Too many calibers to keep stocking up. Which sucks because I sold off a real nice Arsenal SLR-107 with the nice brake on it.

I am wondering if I could start charging a buck a round for my Silver Bear now that it's in no longer as available...
 
#17,979
#17,979
utvolpj said:
Driver may use 'stand-your-ground' defense for shooting that killed 52-year-old

This could be an interesting one since only one is still alive
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There's a fair amount of blah blah in this link (mine below) beyond the facts of the case but this is what most caught my interest.

Video surveillance taken from the intersection of West Waters Avenue and East Anderson Road in Tampa shows Curtis James, 44, pulling up to the red light and Hernandez’s truck directly behind it. The video shows Hernandez opening his door and exiting. He takes a few steps, then falls to the ground, according to an arrest report from the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s office.

When Hernandez walked toward the driver’s side of James’ vehicle, he did not see a weapon in Hernandez’s hands, he told investigators.
However, James told deputies he believed Hernandez was reaching for something on his right side -- a gun, he thought.
James pointed his gun outside of the driver’s side front window and fired several shots at Hernandez.
James said Hernandez fell to the ground and tried to get back up. James fired several more shots at Hernandez, according to the interview.

So apparently there's actual video of the shooting. The victim had only taken a "few steps" before being fired on from the shooter still in the car. A weapon was never seen on the victim. More shots were fired, still with no confirmation of a weapon, while the person was trying to get up. That's not a great line of self-defense evidence so far IMO.

What happened at a Tampa intersection? Manslaughter or self defense? – Tampa Bay Times – Fharbor
 
#17,980
#17,980
hndog609 said:
There's a fair amount of blah blah in this link (mine below) beyond the facts of the case but this is what most caught my interest.

Video surveillance taken from the intersection of West Waters Avenue and East Anderson Road in Tampa shows Curtis James, 44, pulling up to the red light and Hernandez’s truck directly behind it. The video shows Hernandez opening his door and exiting. He takes a few steps, then falls to the ground, according to an arrest report from the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s office.

When Hernandez walked toward the driver’s side of James’ vehicle, he did not see a weapon in Hernandez’s hands, he told investigators.
However, James told deputies he believed Hernandez was reaching for something on his right side -- a gun, he thought.
James pointed his gun outside of the driver’s side front window and fired several shots at Hernandez.
James said Hernandez fell to the ground and tried to get back up. James fired several more shots at Hernandez, according to the interview.

So apparently there's actual video of the shooting. The victim had only taken a "few steps" before being fired on from the shooter still in the car. A weapon was never seen on the victim. More shots were fired, still with no confirmation of a weapon, while the person was trying to get up. That's not a great line of self-defense evidence so far IMO.

What happened at a Tampa intersection? Manslaughter or self defense? – Tampa Bay Times – Fharbor
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I heard about it on the radio the other day and just saw it pop up in my feed. I just can't see how this goes the way of the defense given some recent shootings we've seen in FL. Especially if the video shows what it claims
 
#17,981
#17,981
utvolpj said:
I heard about it on the radio the other day and just saw it pop up in my feed. I just can't see how this goes the way of the defense given some recent shootings we've seen in FL. Especially if the video shows what it claims
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Just based on what little we have to work with so far I'd have to agree with you.
 
#17,982
#17,982
Holy crap, just found an empty magazine... got to rectify that tomorrow. Does anyone else store mags throughout the house. We recently built new home and in the process of moving I found 4 mags that I didnt know about in cabinets. I think there were wifeys.
 
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#17,991
tntar heel said:
Holy crap, just found an empty magazine... got to rectify that tomorrow. Does anyone else store mags throughout the house. We recently built new home and in the process of moving I found 4 mags that I didnt know about in cabinets. I think there were wifeys.
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Not empty ones.
 
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