Gun control debate (merged)

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DancingOutlaw said:
The congregation of that church already pays property taxes on the places they live. Why do we need more ways for the government to tell us what to do with our money? And again, do we want a place of worship folding because they can’t pay the government?
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Some have paid property taxes. Why should a place of worship that is unable to pay its bills be protected? Shouldn't they just work harder?
 
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Mick said:
He has a backup in case the one on his right gets hung up in his wallet chain.
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Oh, that's a wallet chain. I thought maybe he was carrying nunchucks in case evil ninjas jump out to assault his family.
 
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utvolpj said:
Still don't see the 97% figure that was quoted. An unbiased article I read said it was possibly 15-30. Not surprising both sides manipulate their figures
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I didn’t see a 97% quote somewhere that’s my bad. And I don’t doubt both sides manipulate the data.

PP does provide services that are needed. However if they’re going to take government money that comes with limitations I’d submit. Again, if PP provided free abortions have such wide support then take them off the services list and pay for them by private donors.
 
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utvolpj said:
Pregnant women get lots of tests. Some like my wife get many more than others. I didn't see the part where they show a 97% abortion services rate. I did dim it but maybe you could quote it for me?
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The point of the article is they are testing a woman for many things to do with a pregnancy but the woman is there for an abortion.
 
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utvolpj said:
Some have paid property taxes. Why should a place of worship that is unable to pay its bills be protected? Shouldn't they just work harder?
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I couldnt find a definitive answer but do private schools pay property tax? It seems like a lot of not for profits (which private schools can count as) dont pay property taxes. Or at least reduced rates. Google seemed to provide conflicting info
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Well for starters a religion isn’t a for profit entity.
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Seeing some of the mega churches around Nashville I have to wonder.

BUT by your logic that the members of a church paid property taxes on their houses why wouldn't the same apply to a business?
 
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hog88 said:
Seeing some of the mega churches around Nashville I have to wonder.

BUT by your logic that the members of a church paid property taxes on their houses why wouldn't the same apply to a business?
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the size doesnt bother me. Idk maybe tie it to cost per square foot, but even that would have to.scale at some point. What bothers me is the pastors living like kings.that needs taxing but on the physical church or related structures not so much. But when they start building gyms and whatnot that goes beyond that scope of religion imo so unless its tied to a school somehow idk.

I have no clue how no religious non profits work as far as what line of money is too much for them to have. Whatever it is needs to be consistent for churches too.
 
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LouderVol said:
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the size doesnt bother me. Idk maybe tie it to cost per square foot, but even that would have to.scale at some point. What bothers me is the pastors living like kings.that needs taxing but on the physical church or related structures not so much. But when they start building gyms and whatnot that goes beyond that scope of religion imo so unless its tied to a school somehow idk.

I have no clue how no religious non profits work as far as what line of money is too much for them to have. Whatever it is needs to be consistent for churches too.
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This was years ago before we were married, went to church with my soon to be wife and the sermon turned out to be a slide show and trip report from a mission trip the pastor and several elders took to Hawaii. That was my last visit to that church.
 
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hog88 said:
This was years ago before we were married, went to church with my soon to be wife and the sermon turned out to be a slide show and trip report from a mission trip the pastor and several elders took to Hawaii. That was my last visit to that church.
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As long as they are judged on the same line as other non profits I dont see any favoritism based on them being religious.
 
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LouderVol said:
As long as they are judged on the same line as other non profits I dont see any favoritism based on them being religious.
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Don't get me wrong, I think all non-profit tax exemptions need to be revoked. Not just religious facilities.
 
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LouderVol said:
I couldnt find a definitive answer but do private schools pay property tax? It seems like a lot of not for profits (which private schools can count as) dont pay property taxes. Or at least reduced rates. Google seemed to provide conflicting info
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In don't know but that's a good question. I imagine they at least get a break for being nonprofit
 
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HD belt, chained wallet is likely an HD, bike key on key ring, large tall dude probably has a big HD road cruiser. One of those three firearms is probably for her, depending on strong hand, for easy access from the back of the bike. Some women just don't like to carry on themselves while riding.

Yes, you can go shopping on the bike. That's what saddlebags and luggage racks are for.

Meh, I think open carry is silly. Why put that target on yourself when it isn't necessary.
 
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DynaLo said:
HD belt, chained wallet is likely an HD, bike key on key ring, large tall dude probably has a big HD road cruiser. One of those three firearms is probably for her, depending on strong hand, for easy access from the back of the bike. Some women just don't like to carry on themselves while riding.

Yes, you can go shopping on the bike. That's what saddlebags and luggage racks are for.

Meh, I think open carry is silly. Why put that target on yourself when it isn't necessary.
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DynaLo = Dyna glide ?
 
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