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Interestingly succinct compared to Ole Miss's pitch, but where is South Carolina's? Is Beamer šŸ˜“?
 
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rjd970 said:
Loss to Vandy, 21-point loss to OK, and loss to us.

Sorry - but if this were any other team it wouldn't be a question.
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So who deserves the spot? Not defending B*** or any team really. This is why I donā€™t like the 12 team playoff. At least one, if not like 3 not very good teams get to go to the playoff
 
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If Bama played Ole Miss on a neutral field Iā€™m taking Ole Miss. I think Ole Miss has a worse loss, but the common opponents has Ole Miss w/ more convincing wins. The exception being LSU.
 
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volfanbill said:
So who deserves the spot? Not defending B*** or any team really. This is why I donā€™t like the 12 team playoff. At least one, if not like 3 not very good teams get to go to the playoff
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I would just put in Miami with two losses and avoid the 3-loss debate altogether. Not that I really think Miami deserves it either, but it is simple and consistent.
 
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rjd970 said:
I would just put in Miami with two losses and avoid the 3-loss debate altogether. Not that I really think Miami deserves it either, but it is simple and consistent.
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I would take the 3 loss teams from SEC. These teams from weaker conferences need to step out and play big out of conference games. I mean while the Mountain West is really bad but the fact that Boise took a shot at Oregon has helped them. Had they not played that game they have had no wiggle room and might be behind Indiana where Arizona State is right now. Now I'm not saying they get in if they lose to UNLV in the Mountain West but they have a shot to drop to the 12 line and Bama get squeezed out. That Oregon game win or lose gives them some respect amongst the committee and to be honest it should.
 
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Iā€™ve said it before. I just donā€™t believe Sankey is going to let the Big 10 get 4 teams in and the SEC only 3 and he is applying the heat. Like it or not, Bama is a bigger brand than Ole Miss or SC and is getting the push.
 
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volfanbill said:
So, who belongs to ā€œdo this rightā€?
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imo they need to drop the fixed number of spots aspect. you are either going to be adding in underserving teams to fill a slot, like this year; or you are going to be keeping out a deserving team just because there are more.

I would love to see some type of standard, could be anything but here is an example:
Must play minimum of 3 P4 schools,
12-0 against a Top 64 SoS (approx half of the FBS)
11-1 against a Top 48 SoS
10-2 against a Top 32 Sos
Conference champ against a Top 48 SoS

no one else makes it. if you end up with an odd number of teams you start accepting the next tiers starting back with the 12-0 teams who only played a Top 80 SoS, or whatever. if there is a tie amongst those make them play each other.

or just work it out where the "deserving" teams get bis, while all the teams that make it over some lower threshold have to have a playoff to make it into the real playoff.
 
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LouderVol said:
imo they need to drop the fixed number of spots aspect. you are either going to be adding in underserving teams to fill a slot, like this year; or you are going to be keeping out a deserving team just because there are more.

I would love to see some type of standard, could be anything but here is an example:
Must play minimum of 3 P4 schools,
12-0 against a Top 64 SoS (approx half of the FBS)
11-1 against a Top 48 SoS
10-2 against a Top 32 Sos
Conference champ against a Top 48 SoS

no one else makes it. if you end up with an odd number of teams you start accepting the next tiers starting back with the 12-0 teams who only played a Top 80 SoS, or whatever. if there is a tie amongst those make them play each other.

or just work it out where the "deserving" teams get bis, while all the teams that make it over some lower threshold have to have a playoff to make it into the real playoff.
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So like some years 7 teams fit this category? Sometimes 12? Iā€™m confused. This seems way too convoluted
 
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volfanbill said:
So like some years 7 teams fit this category? Sometimes 12? Iā€™m confused. This seems way too convoluted
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yeah, why does the number matter if you are talking about "deserving". have a standard and hold to it. nothing convoluted about it.

you could still do the same thing. first couple rounds are hosted by various teams if you extend beyond the New Year bowls.
 
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LouderVol said:
yeah, why does the number matter if you are talking about "deserving". have a standard and hold to it. nothing convoluted about it.

you could still do the same thing. first couple rounds are hosted by various teams if you extend beyond the New Year bowls.
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Tough to pre identify the bowls that way. I wouldnā€™t say politics get in the way, but sponsor money does. I donā€™t think thereā€™s a no lose situation to do this
 
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volfanbill said:
Tough to pre identify the bowls that way. I wouldnā€™t say politics get in the way, but sponsor money does. I donā€™t think thereā€™s a no lose situation to do this
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There wouldn't be any loss really. even this year with all the craziness only 2 teams 10-2 or better would be out.

the same 5 sites/sponsors would still be guaranteed games like they are today.
you keep a list of sponsors, I am sure most of the ones already doing Bowls would throw more money in for a playoff game, that are on the waiting list. they give X money to a bowl game, but will give +X money for a playoff game if there are more teams than the New Years 5 can host.
 
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@volfanbill is right. Bama isnā€™t deserving, but who you gonna put in instead? Miamiā€™s a joke, Ole Miss blew it just like Bama did, and South Carolina lost the H2H. The fact is 12 teams are too many. Should be 8 with no byes/automatic qualifiers.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Nobody with 3 losses for starters. ND doesn't because they don't have a conference schedule.
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So a two loss Miami whoā€™s played nobody? Army who got annihilated the one time they played somebody? Yea. Thatā€™s obviously the right idea. šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„
 
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