Good Luck on Saturday

[soothslayer]

Aside from the obvious trolls,

I've enjoyed reading your posts. Your fanbase is fired up and ready for Saturday. I hope its a clean, healthy game on both parts.
I know the national media thinks this is a blowout (could be?), I tend to think If you all line up and play power football; we're going to have a tight one.

We Mountaineers love tailgating, and are WIDE OPEN to share. We'll be sipping from mason jars and grilling whatever delights the stomach craves. Please, say hi, we love to chat.

I'd love to play some corn hole and share a beer with whomever. It's going to be a blast sharing game traditions. Understand, that we're not all like Mule. We have a
hesitant optimism about this season. We should contend for a BIG 12 title and (hopefully/GOD WILLING) sneak our way into a playoff spot. ORRRRR we could go 8-4 and want to hang ourselves from a roof.

I'd love to play more games like this in the future. It's great for recruiting and exposure.

I'll know where I'm parking tomorrow, swing by, have a sip and a pepperoni roll.

 

[checkerboards09]

Thanks for the kind words, but if WV goes 8-4 that’s absolutely no reason to hang yourselves from a roof.

 

[bigorange]

Aside from the obvious trolls,

I've enjoyed reading your posts. Your fanbase is fired up and ready for Saturday. I hope its a clean, healthy game on both parts.
I know the national media thinks this is a blowout (could be?), I tend to think If you all line up and play power football; we're going to have a tight one.

We Mountaineers love tailgating, and are WIDE OPEN to share. We'll be sipping from mason jars and grilling whatever delights the stomach craves. Please, say hi, we love to chat.

I'd love to play some corn hole and share a beer with whomever. It's going to be a blast sharing game traditions. Understand, that we're not all like Mule. We have a
hesitant optimism about this season. We should contend for a BIG 12 title and (hopefully/GOD WILLING) sneak our way into a playoff spot. ORRRRR we could go 8-4 and want to hang ourselves from a roof.

I'd love to play more games like this in the future. It's great for recruiting and exposure.

I'll know where I'm parking tomorrow, swing by, have a sip and a pepperoni roll.

Likewise @soothslayer. Keep me posted on where you're setting up, I'll be out and about.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

No offense but how in the hell do you guys keep starting threads?

 

[soothslayer]

No offense but how in the hell do you guys keep starting threads?

I click "post a thread"

 

[05_never_again]

Thanks for the kind words, but if WV goes 8-4 that’s absolutely no reason to hang yourselves from a roof.

Holgorsen is in a dangerous spot where the realistic potential of his team this year is out of whack with fan expectations. Kind of like Coach O this year and Butch last year.

8-4 would be a totally fair result for them this year, but I sense the natives would be restless with that. Especially when the 4 losses could come in a row right at the end of the season. Their schedule is really back-loaded. If Holgorsen drops a game(s) before those final 4 games of the year, his seat will be red hot.

 

[sjt18]

I know the national media thinks this is a blowout (could be?), I tend to think If you all line up and play power football; we're going to have a tight one.

Could be... or it could be a blowout that shocks a lot of people. Depending on how much improvement Pruitt has made with this team... UT has real talent. That is the one factor in this game consistently underestimated by WVU fans and the national media.

Please help yourself to the thread I posted with highlights for Jennings and Callaway at WR. Jennings got hurt and Callaway was hampered by a bad system and injuries to the OL's and QB's. Those guys will both play in the NFL.

 

[sjt18]

I click "post a thread"

There used to be a block on people starting new threads until they reached a minimum number of posts. The site was recently re-designed. That block was lost.

 

[reeceb73]

It used to be you have to have so many posts before you could start a new thread. Apparently, that requirement has been removed

Good luck to you guys after Saturday. Go Vols

 

[rickyb712]

Wow! what's the world coming to when WVU is not happy with 8-4. Do they think they an S E C team.

 

[checkerboards09]

Wow! what's the world coming to when WVU is not happy with 8-4. Do they think they an S E C team.

You have a couple of talking heads trying to make them out to be world beaters and their fans have taken it and ran with it.

 

[Vol Main]

I click "post a thread"

It's hard!

 

[TN Outlaw]

Thanks for the kind post and good health to your team. Enjoy the game Soothslayer and good luck after this weekend.

 

[soothslayer]

Wow! what's the world coming to when WVU is not happy with 8-4. Do they think they an S E C team.

It's just we would only be happy, TRULY happy with at least 9-10 wins this year. With this roster, and years the roster has in the system...we have high expectations. 8-4 is a good season. But we've went through the 4,5,6,7 win seasons. A few years ago 2016, we hit 10 wins. We just want to win the Big 12 to take that next step. It's taken a while to get the recruiting to a level to compete. But we feel we've gotten there.

Please don't twist perspective from metaphor here. 8-4 is solid, we don't want solid.

@05_never_again <- you're analysis is 100% correct. I believe in Dana, under him we've put more players in the NFL than any other coach since Don. But an early loss would result in some real hell fire heat. 9 wins is the line, I feel here from majority of fans. But the term Glass Cannon really applies to this team.

One injury to Grier and it's a toilet bowl season. So..

please play nice


lol

 

[05_never_again]

It's taken a while to get the recruiting to a level to compete. But we feel we've gotten there.

I can't imagine the move to the Big 12 helped with recruiting. I'm sure it's been good from a financial perspective, but the Pennsylvania/Ohio kids you'd like to recruit (I'm assuming that is your target area) don't want to play for a Big 12 school, and if you recruit kids in Big 12 country or the southeast, they don't really want to go to West Virginia.

 

[GBOVFL88]

Aside from the obvious trolls,

I've enjoyed reading your posts. Your fanbase is fired up and ready for Saturday. I hope its a clean, healthy game on both parts.
I know the national media thinks this is a blowout (could be?), I tend to think If you all line up and play power football; we're going to have a tight one.

We Mountaineers love tailgating, and are WIDE OPEN to share. We'll be sipping from mason jars and grilling whatever delights the stomach craves. Please, say hi, we love to chat.

I'd love to play some corn hole and share a beer with whomever. It's going to be a blast sharing game traditions. Understand, that we're not all like Mule. We have a
hesitant optimism about this season. We should contend for a BIG 12 title and (hopefully/GOD WILLING) sneak our way into a playoff spot. ORRRRR we could go 8-4 and want to hang ourselves from a roof.

I'd love to play more games like this in the future. It's great for recruiting and exposure.

I'll know where I'm parking tomorrow, swing by, have a sip and a pepperoni roll.

Apprecite the sportmanship or Fansmanship if thats a thing. I hope we have a great game and learn alot about our teams. I can't give an honest assessment on your record at the end of the year, but with a hiesman caliber QB and your pre-season rank, 8-4 would be disappointing for you. I would love to see the Mountineers go 10-2 with a loss to my VOLS obviousley. Good luck this year... after Saturday.

GBO!!

 

[soothslayer]

I can't imagine the move to the Big 12 helped with recruiting. I'm sure it's been good from a financial perspective, but the Pennsylvania/Ohio kids you'd like to recruit (I'm assuming that is your target area) don't want to play for a Big 12 school, and if you recruit kids in Big 12 country or the southeast, they don't really want to go to West Virginia.

Well contrary, to your thought process it's the opposite. We're able to attract kids on the basis of playing in big games close to home. You get to play blue bloods like Texas and Oklahoma and your parents can drive to the game. Are we driving in 5* talent; no. But we've added quality and depth across both sides of the ball. It's a different approach and we're deeper and more talented. Even when you compare our BCS teams, this team is right there and deeper.

Will we ever be able to recruit like Texas or Oklahoma? No, but we can bring in kids in high quality and develop them. Dana has shown the ability to do that. 3* safety by the name Karl Joseph is a killer in the NFL now and 1st rd pick. (Texas Never Offered Him) We can go into Texas and get the kids Texas and A&M walk past. And we can focus on the mid-atlantic and offer them ability to play in a major conference and play in big games. (We always schedule hard, opened with Bama, VT, and You guys.) And with that approach every 3-4 years WE SHOULD IN THEORY be able to compete at the top of the conference. This is suppose to be that year....



EMPHASIS on...Suppose to be.... Again..Glass Cannon team...play nice !!

 

[Rifleman]

I can't imagine the move to the Big 12 helped with recruiting. I'm sure it's been good from a financial perspective, but the Pennsylvania/Ohio kids you'd like to recruit (I'm assuming that is your target area) don't want to play for a Big 12 school, and if you recruit kids in Big 12 country or the southeast, they don't really want to go to West Virginia.

Missouri should be in the BIG 12 and WVU in the SEC East. That would be better for everyone.

 

[soothslayer]

Missouri should be in the BIG 12 and WVU in the SEC East. That would be better for everyone.

Stop...you're giving me a chub.

 

[05_never_again]

Well contrary, to your though process it's the opposite. We're able to attract kids on the basis of playing in big games close to home. You get to play blue bloods like Texas and Oklahoma and you're parents can drive to the game. Are we driving in 5* talent; no. But we've added quality and depth across both sides of the ball. It's a different approach and we're deeper and more talented. Even you compare our BCS teams, this team is right there and deeper.

Will we ever be able to recruit like Texas or Oklahoma? No, but we can bring in kids in high quality and develop them. Dana has shown the ability to do that. 3* safety by the name Karl Joseph is a killer in the NFL now and 1st rd pick. (Texas Never Offered Him) We can go into Texas and get the kids Texas and A&M walk past. And we can focus on the mid-atlantic and offer them ability to play in a major conference and play in big games. And with that approach every 3-4 years WE SHOULD IN THEORY be able to compete at the top of the conference. This is suppose to be that year....



EMPHASIS on...Suppose to be..

Yeah, but the strategy you describe is difficult to pull off though. You get Texas kids that the big schools don't want, and the Mid-Atlantic kids you target are also being recruited by ACC and Big 10 schools, so you tend to get players big schools in those conferences don't want either. West Virginia is a very tough recruiting job because of the odd conference fit and it is tough for you to go into other school's backyards and recruit because there isn't elite tradition, facilities, "brand," etc. Tennessee has to go into other school's backyards too, but it is easier because Tennessee does have a lot of the 3 previous things I mentioned, plus the distance from Knoxville to Atlanta is a lot shorter than Morgantown to Dallas.

 

[05_never_again]

Missouri should be in the BIG 12 and WVU in the SEC East. That would be better for everyone.

Virginia Tech is probably a better fit in the SEC East than West Virginia would be, but both schools are a hell of a lot better fit than Missouri is.

Honestly the school that is the best "fit" from a geographical/culture perspective in the SEC East that isn't already there is Clemson, but they obviously have no reason to leave. FSU would be a good fit in the SEC East too. Both those ships sailed long time ago though.

 

[soothslayer]

Yeah, but the strategy you describe is difficult to pull off though. You get Texas kids that the big schools don't want, and the Mid-Atlantic kids you target are also being recruited by ACC and Big 10 schools, so you tend to get players big schools in those conferences don't want either. West Virginia is a very tough recruiting job because of the odd conference fit and it is tough for you to go into other school's backyards and recruit because there isn't elite tradition, facilities, "brand," etc. Tennessee has to go into other school's backyards too, but it is easier because Tennessee does have a lot of the 3 previous things I mentioned, plus the distance from Knoxville to Atlanta is a lot shorter than Morgantown to Dallas.

Well, it's all coming ahead this year. Like I said; 2016 it worked. We we're in the top 10, ended with a 10 win season. And we are having to develop players other schools don't want. As for the traditions and facilities I would tend to argue we have top quality in those areas. Branding is the area I'll agree with you, except when recruiting MD, NC, VA. We tend to do well and are a brand in those areas. Is the facilities like an A&M or Texas? Obviously not...hence why we're not getting five star talent. I think our disagreement is on the fact, you probably feel only happy with a 5 star kid. We've only had a handful of those in program history. We as a fan base know getting a 4 star or 3 star gem is just as good as getting a 5 star that you never get the production out of.

Our coaches do have to sell hard. And then develop talent, which Dana has. I commend him solely on that. Like I said before, we've been throwing some players into the NFL. He has a knack for finding diamonds.

But we do get a bunch of High quality 3star kids and the tid-bit of 4 stars that get the chance to start early.

 

[KBVol]

It's just we would only be happy, TRULY happy with at least 9-10 wins this year. With this roster, and years the roster has in the system...we have high expectations. 8-4 is a good season. But we've went through the 4,5,6,7 win seasons. A few years ago 2016, we hit 10 wins. We just want to win the Big 12 to take that next step. It's taken a while to get the recruiting to a level to compete. But we feel we've gotten there.

Please don't twist perspective from metaphor here. 8-4 is solid, we don't want solid.

@05_never_again <- you're analysis is 100% correct. I believe in Dana, under him we've put more players in the NFL than any other coach since Don. But an early loss would result in some real hell fire heat. 9 wins is the line, I feel here from majority of fans. But the term Glass Cannon really applies to this team.

One injury to Grier and it's a toilet bowl season. So..

please play nice


lol

Nothing wrong with high expectations, especially when you can justify them. You guys should expect to win 9-10 games and battle for the Big 12 title....and our fans, after listening to our previous fraud of a head coach the last 5 years, constantly and without fail embarrassingly talk down our program and what we should’ve rightfully expected, should surely understand the sentiment.

 

[05_never_again]

Well, it's all coming ahead this year. Like I said; 2016 it worked. We we're in the top 10, ended with a 10 win season. And we are having to develop players other schools don't want. As for the traditions and facilities I would tend to argue we have top quality in those areas. Branding is the area I'll agree with you, except when recruiting MD, NC, VA. We tend to do well and are a brand in those areas. Is the facilities like an A&M or Texas? Obviously not...hence why we're not getting five star talent. I think our disagreement is on the fact, you probably feel only happy with a 5 star kid. We've only had a handful of those in program history. We as a fan base know getting a 4 star or 3 star gem is just as good as getting a 5 star that you never get the production out of.

Our coaches do have to sell hard. And then develop talent, which Dana has. I commend him solely on that. Like I said before, we've been throwing some players into the NFL. He has a knack for finding diamonds.

But we do get a bunch of High quality 3star kids and the tid-bit of 4 stars that get the chance to start early.

You stated that the goal is to win the Big 12 though. In order to be consistently good in a P5 conference and vie for conference titles, you have to attract top talent (mostly 4 and 5-stars) and develop them. That is what the elite teams in your conference are doing. It isn't enough to get 3-stars and coach them up or bring in lots of 4s and 5s and not develop them. There are some recent exceptions to this rule (Wisconsin and Michigan St come to mind), but then again there are exceptions to every rule.

 

[Brave Volunteer]

Good luck! I hope you guys go 11-1.