GAME THREAD: @ #1 UCONN, Sunday, 1/30, 12:00 pm EST (Fox)

I do have a question regarding our poor shooting. We have several McDonalds AA players, and it is my understanding you don’t earn this honor by being a defensive menace. You were an offensive producer in order to attract the attention warranted for the honor. Does anyone know what kind of stats our players had? Were they all just one on one scorers, driving most of the time? Was Mia the only three point shooter? Just curious.
Great question… Mcdonalds votes is a little political. Goodman mentioned it today in a tweet for the boys side… but it’s even worse on the girls side. Shane Laflin who is working with ESPN now and is part of 3step is heavily involved with the Wootens… Wooten is part of 3step as well. The Majority of the players that if not all are highly encouraged to attend the Wooten Camp if they want to participate in the McDonalds games. Participation in attending a Few camps held by wooten, shane Laflin/Jason Key, Brandon Clay and two other people that i have McDonald votes pushes you into the top 40 rankings. Players within the top 40 rankings are then selected. Then there is more politics that goes into because not all top 24 players make the event. That is what I have noticed the past 4 to 5 years.
 
Kinda like Kellie couldn't get the same level of play from Justine a top 9 recruit in the court who she allowed to rot on the bench and now she's thriving at Vandy in Shea's system.
Justine hasn’t done squat until this year. Think this tells us more about Justine than Kellie or Shea and any system.
 
I do have a question regarding our poor shooting. We have several McDonalds AA players, and it is my understanding you don’t earn this honor by being a defensive menace. You were an offensive producer in order to attract the attention warranted for the honor. Does anyone know what kind of stats our players had? Were they all just one on one scorers, driving most of the time? Was Mia the only three point shooter? Just curious.

Yup, Kim's “SYSTEM” is a gimmick. And, like most gimmicks or systems, it will work sometimes. But not always. And I believe that the high number/percentage of three-point shots and the dreadfully low percentage rates are a result of the system's flaws, at least in the way it's being implemented now.

Was the Tennessee Women's Basketball Program in need of a young coach with no Division 1 experience touting an easy, quick-fix, gimmicky system to help them win? No. They were already a consistent top 25 team without any gimmickry. And it turns out that the SYSTEM is neither quick nor easy. And might just be a waste of time that could have been used to come up with a better winning formula under a proven coach with an eye for securing talent, building a staff, and developing players.

Here's an acid test. Take a look at all the wins this year and select the ones which would have been losses if the current talented team members had been functioning in a more traditional mode like those in use by other top coaches. I honestly don't see any. Now look at the losses and see if you agree that two of them –NC State and Mississippi State – would probably have been wins. And the other losses might have been closer contests point-wise.

There have been many posts on this board finding specific shortcomings of the SYSTEM (substitutions,player recruiting and retention, defensive liabilities, etc.) and I agree with many of them. But one consistent theme seems to be that what's needed most is better three-point shooters, and I'm afraid that's an over-simplification.

The best offensive systems will always have options to set up their three-point shooters, giving them time and space. But they'll have other options in their arsenal if the opponent's defense prevents that. Not surprisingly, when three-point shooters are set up by a well executed offense and given time and space their accuracy improves a great deal. When you don't have a well-balanced offensive system with unselfish, high IQ players who are good passers your shooters often wind up taking off-balance, breathless, hurried, hands-in-their-face, desperation, last-second heaves and their success rate will of course be much lower.

Consider TN's three top non-freshman scorers. Barker didn't take many three-point shots in her first year at A&M but hit 41% of them. In her second year she took more than twice as many and her rate dropped to 34%. This year she has already taken more than she did all of last year and been successful even less of the time with the LV's toughest opponents still ahead of them. Spearman shot 52/30 last year, this year a much higher percentage of her shots have been threes and her numbers so far are 40/25. Conversely, Cooper is taking fewer three-point shots and her percentage improved by more than six points.

So when scanning three-point stats of players in the portal in April don't assume that any candidate's numbers will translate to Kim's system of play. And I also wouldn't assume that any confident three-point shot specialist who understands the help they need to succeed would be anxious to transfer to a team that played that system.
 
You’re not a Vols fan I can tell…. Kim’s players improve….. eventually she’s has to get away from the transfers and just get 1 or two every year…. She develops good players over time.
 
Are you talking about Pissot because her stats aren't bad? MPG 28.2, PPG 11.5, RPG 4.6, A/TO 2.0, FG% 44.5, 3pt% 43.9. I think she could have been an asset at Tennessee.
Well Kellie already had Striplin, Puckett and Darby. All 4 women were 6'3 that are tall wings. She wasn't going see playtime at the 3. It's like having too much of the same thing.
 
K train, it’s usually about matchups. SC never matched up well with UConn last year. It is what it is. UT had an awesome game against them last year though and I enjoyed it tremendously.
Yep you nailed it, I've told ppl for years its about matchups especially when you get to the Tourney, we could go to the NCAA and get a bad matchup with a lower seed and eliminated 1st game. Last year if somebody would have knocked UConn out, South Carolina would more than likely been Champs, was a bad matchup for them.
 
Yep you nailed it, I've told ppl for years its about matchups especially when you get to the Tourney, we could go to the NCAA and get a bad matchup with a lower seed and eliminated 1st game. Last year if somebody would have knocked UConn out, South Carolina would more than likely been Champs, was a bad matchup for them.
Matchups certainly come into play, but there’s also preparation aka coaching. I mean they did beat ALL the #1 seeds. Were they all bad matchups?
 
I’m just pumped at how well we played in the first half. That’s a win for a bunch of freshman who really got some huge big stage experience by playing at UConn. Now we know what it takes to be the best we just witnessed it. Our team is gonna improve watch what I say!
We will take down some big name teams because we saw how well UConn played together and the efficiency they had on offense and the defensive end.
 
I’m just pumped at how well we played in the first half. That’s a win for a bunch of freshman who really got some huge big stage experience by playing at UConn. Now we know what it takes to be the best we just witnessed it. Our team is gonna improve watch what I say!
We will take down some big name teams because we saw how well UConn played together and the efficiency they had on offense and the defensive end.
Fingers crossed! 🤞🏻🤞🏻
 
UConn did a great job with their press and who played Strong 37 minutes, Fudd 39 minutes, Shade 31 minutes, Arnold 28 minutes, S. Williams 29 minutes. He played his starters 164 minutes out of 200 you need to play. Heckel and Ziebel played all the rest except a a two minutes stint by Jana El. So he might be on to something using his best five players 164 minutes. We haven't got close to doing that except Alabama and maybe one more game.
Please keep in mind, if Blanca Quinones had been there, she would’ve gotten 20 minutes, which would’ve taken away some from starters, not reserves, except possibly Allie Ziebell.
 
Please keep in mind, if Blanca Quinones had been there, she would’ve gotten 20 minutes, which would’ve taken away some from starters, not reserves, except possibly Allie Ziebell.

Yes that seems fair because she is equivalent to a starter JMO is better than Shade that starts. So in this game boxscore Iowa they go with that six 170 minutes. So the previous point still remains not counting any of the Big East Conference games because the conference is terrible this season and he really does rest those starters a lot more in those games. It would be equivalent to what an SEC team would do against a Mid Major.

Certainly not putting a game at risk by playing the end of the roster 70 to 80 minutes like Tennessee does even if they are playing the best teams.
 

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