Fulmer's firing really just comes down to one flaw...

[BigPapaVol]

Voldad, with all due respect let him enjoy it on a gator board instead of throwing it in our faces. I have respect for law, but if you throw it in my face enough i'm not going to like it.

why worry about it? It's likely because this crowd is far more entertaining than one on a UF board might be.

We do have some pretty sharp cookies running around this joint.

 

[Cartervol]

why worry about it? It's likely because this crowd is far more entertaining than one on a UF board might be.

We do have some pretty sharp cookies running around this joint.

I don't know, just reflex i guess.

 

[rjd970]

Voldad, with all due respect let him enjoy it on a gator board instead of throwing it in our faces. I have respect for law, but if you throw it in my face enough i'm not going to like it.

Personally, I don't even care at this point. Just let it go until next year, life is much better that way. It's been what, like 3 years since we could even show our face to a FLA or Bama fan? I'm to the point that other fans ragging on me doesn't even bother me anymore. As for the rest of the season...if we win out, great...if we lose out, whatever.

 

[lawgator1]

fixed it for you, LG.

So, aren't you getting tired of winning yet?

I don't know. Its gotten to the point where I can't remember it being any other way.

(Total b.s. Of course I remember the bad old days. And don't think I don't appreciate where we are right now)

I find the amount of arrogance oozing from your posts rather sickening. If and when florida falls on their face, i'm going to yuck it up good for your arrogant butt.

I appreciate the caveat.

LG1 has been following the gators long enough to have seen the ups and downs. Let him enjoy it while he can. It is up to our new coach to stop it.

Exactly right. Don't get your jollies whining that the Gators are enjoying too much success. Go get some of your own.

Voldad, with all due respect let him enjoy it on a gator board instead of throwing it in our faces. I have respect for law, but if you throw it in my face enough i'm not going to like it.

why worry about it? It's likely because this crowd is far more entertaining than one on a UF board might be.

We do have some pretty sharp cookies running around this joint.

This board is infinitely better than any other sports board I have ever tried. Quality folks. Good fun. Intelligent dialogue.

 

[volfanbill]

Mike Hamilton hired Dave, not Fulmer.

I just think time has pass CPF bye, but thanks for the good times coach.

um no.

 

[Cartervol]

I don't know. Its gotten to the point where I can't remember it being any other way.

(Total b.s. Of course I remember the bad old days. And don't think I don't appreciate where we are right now)





I appreciate the caveat.




Exactly right. Don't get your jollies whining that the Gators are enjoying too much success. Go get some of your own.






This board is infinitely better than any other sports board I have ever tried. Quality folks. Good fun. Intelligent dialogue.

Glad i can be of entertainment to you. Now go piss on a electric fence.

 

[gainesvol82]

That was sort of my hook for the joking part. But anywhosal ...





The spread will never work in the pros because of the speed of the defensive ends and the speed of the corners as they come up and prevent the quick out.

I'm struggling to understand, however, why that means that athletes would choose to go to UT rather than Florida.

Ask David Oku. A good portion of elite recruits who have NFL aspirations won't go to a school that runs the spread offense.

 

[lawgator1]

Ask David Oku. A good portion of elite recruits who have NFL aspirations won't go to a school that runs the spread offense.

Find me quotes from three NFL players who said they didn't go to X school because it ran the spread offense.

Actually, just two would be fine.

In fact, one. Go for it!

 

[westknox]

BPV, clever as always. May I add a twist?

Its losses.

And who you were losing to.

And the way you were losing to them.

And the fact that it seemed like you would keep losing to them.

Yes that is it in a nutshell. Fulmer was/is a mediocre coach who lasted much longer than he should have. He got an inordinate amount of mileage out of 1998, something no other coach in the country would have gotten at a major school.

 

[Vol423]

his inability to find a strong replacement for cutcliffe. Not only in his most recent example w/ clawson, but also with just letting randy sanders come over.

Think about it, when cutcliffe was offensive coordinator under fulmer and chavis as defensive coordinator, the vols were seemingly always improving. However, whenever cutcliffe left the picture, the vols were digressing.

From that standpoint, i do feel bad for fulmer-- but ultimately it's his responsibility to have an eye for the right talent. On the same note however, i don't think cutcliffe alone was the reason we were successful while he was here-- i just think he was one of the right pieces of the pie.

wrong!

 

[gainesvol82]

Find me quotes from three NFL players who said they didn't go to X school because it ran the spread offense.

Actually, just two would be fine.

In fact, one. Go for it!

That's a ridiculous request. The spread has not been ran by major universities for very long. The request would also exclude defensive players. Opinions of players who are currently being recruited are much more relevant. Why does UF have a hard time recruiting RB's? Because of the spread and Meyer's terrible use of the RB's he's had. Pretending that the spread is attractive to every offensive prospect is denying reality. Until recent success the spread was viewed as an offense for teams that couldn't recruit and line up against traditional powers and needed any kind of advantage to level the playing field.

 

[triton1]

That was sort of my hook for the joking part. But anywhosal ...





The spread will never work in the pros because of the speed of the defensive ends and the speed of the corners as they come up and prevent the quick out.

I'm struggling to understand, however, why that means that athletes would choose to go to UT rather than Florida.

Plenty of good players continue to choose USC, who continues to run a pro style offense(with pretty fair success). I think Tennessee has continued to get good enough talent to compete, but for some reason, as the original post said:Fulmer just isn't the same without Cut.

 

[sMi.Spite]

If "one flaw" means 1) errors in managing the assistant coaches, 2) refusing to update UT's offensive schemes to be more competitive, 3) getting beat on the recruiting trial, and 4) ultimately blaming everyone else, then I agree with you.

I know alot of people give you flack, but you sure tell it like it is.

 

[PineyBluff Vol]

I agree, but UT's success isn't. Look at the defense, Chavis has consistently brought a competitive defense to Tennessee throughout his entire career. Sure there are a couple of blemishes here and there, but overall it's very solid.

When looking at the weakness, it's always been Offense, and it has always been while Cutcliffe wasn't present.

That's a whole lot of generalizing. If Cutcliffe had one thing and only one thing going for him, it was his ability to discipline players and be consistent in what he was great at. Now I don't think that he was a great Offensive Play Caller, not even close. The Problem With This Team Is A Lack Of Discipline, Top to Bottom!

 

[cotton]

Yes that is it in a nutshell. Fulmer was/is a mediocre coach who lasted much longer than he should have. He got an inordinate amount of mileage out of 1998, something no other coach in the country would have gotten at a major school.

While the first part of your post is debatable, the second, highlighted portion, is absolute crap. Any coach responsible for the first national championship at a major program in 5 decades would have gotten what Fulmer got--the benefit of the doubt, probably for too long.