Fulmer struggled against Saban, Meyer, Spurrier

[Evet Vols]

I'm curious how many would be okay if Butch stays at Tennessee until 2029. Winning 74.5% of the games.

During that time he wins nothing (division, conference or National) until 2018.

2018 Sec Champ
2019 Undefeated, SEC and National Champs.
2020 nothing
2021 nothing
2022 East Champs
2023 nothing
2024 East Champs
2025 East Champs
2026 nothing
2027 nothing
2028 East Champs
2029 nothing

Winning 75% of all games is very good. I believe Butch would be able to stay that long with that record.

 

[Behr]

So, you're okay with it?

 

[Iam4utalways]

I'm curious how many would be okay if Butch stays at Tennessee until 2029. Winning 74.5% of the games.

During that time he wins nothing (division, conference or National) until 2018.

2018 Sec Champ
2019 Undefeated, SEC and National Champs.
2020 nothing
2021 nothing
2022 East Champs
2023 nothing
2024 East Champs
2025 East Champs
2026 nothing
2027 nothing
2028 East Champs
2029 nothing

I've got no beef with CPF we won a NC.

To be honest I want more. I'm thinking a Pat Summit type run, she is the gold standard for coaching expectations.

 

[KBVol]

Well to be honest most of those VOLS teams haven't been that good either when ya take off the orange colored glasses.

The 1990s and early 2000s Vols teams were "that good"?

 

[butchna]

For the record......Fulmer beat Saban....

Once...at LSU...and never again...especially the SECOND time in the same season when the stakes were highest. inch:

 

[KBVol]

I'm curious how many would be okay if Butch stays at Tennessee until 2029. Winning 74.5% of the games.

During that time he wins nothing (division, conference or National) until 2018.

2018 Sec Champ
2019 Undefeated, SEC and National Champs.
2020 nothing
2021 nothing
2022 East Champs
2023 nothing
2024 East Champs
2025 East Champs
2026 nothing
2027 nothing
2028 East Champs
2029 nothing

Count me in.

If Jones wins 75% of his games, has a collective winning record vs Georgia, Florida and Alabama, wins 2 SEC titles which means he'll very likely/almost assuredly make 2 final 4 playoff appearances, has a magical undefeated season and wins another national title for Tennessee.....and plays in 4 additional SECCGs....hell yeah, I'll take it for sure after the garbage we've all endured as Vol fans since 2008. All day every day.

There will certainly still be fans that would be disrespectful and hate on him like so many do now to Fulmer...but not me, no way. I'll gladly take your scenario and be one happy little Vol fan. Just promise me that when you fire Butch in 2029, that you don't bring in a complete asshat like Kiffin or Dooley.

 

[Sarms58]

I'm curious how many would be okay if Butch stays at Tennessee until 2029. Winning 74.5% of the games.

During that time he wins nothing (division, conference or National) until 2018.

2018 Sec Champ
2019 Undefeated, SEC and National Champs.
2020 nothing
2021 nothing
2022 East Champs
2023 nothing
2024 East Champs
2025 East Champs
2026 nothing
2027 nothing
2028 East Champs
2029 nothing

Not a bad measuring stick but I wouldn't start the clock until this year...talent wise, Phil had 15 or 16 players drafted from his first three teams - Butch had had three....you can't ignore that they started from far different points in terms of talent..

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Phil recruited a lot of those players..

Once...at LSU...and never again...especially the SECOND time in the same season when the stakes were highest. inch:

There are 4 coaches in that have beaten Saban twice. Miles got him three times. That is it.

And you have to admit, Chief had one of his best days a defensive coordinator in that 2001 title game that Fulmer lost. Cut was a machine that day as well. Bradie James just blew up another play.

 

[KBVol]

For the record......Fulmer beat Saban....

And Spurrier 4 times, whoever was coaching Georgia 11 times and whoever else other than Saban was coaching Alabama 10 or 11 times.

 

[KBVol]

Once...at LSU...and never again...especially the SECOND time in the same season when the stakes were highest. inch:

Most never beat Saban once in a season and nobody ever beats him twice.

 

[Boca Vol]

Phil recruited a lot of those players..



There are 4 coaches in that have beaten Saban twice. Miles got him three times. That is it.

And you have to admit, Chief had one of his best days a defensive coordinator in that 2001 title game that Fulmer lost. Cut was a machine that day as well. Bradie James just blew up another play.

Who?

 

[butchna]

Phil recruited a lot of those players..



There are 4 coaches in that have beaten Saban twice. Miles got him three times. That is it.

And you have to admit, Chief had one of his best days a defensive coordinator in that 2001 title game that Fulmer lost. Cut was a machine that day as well. Bradie James just blew up another play.

Yes, I have to admit that. We had a NFL caliber DL with future Pro-Bowlers Haynesworth and Henderson at DT...stopping that backup QB and that keeper on every other play was just too much to ask. inch:

 

[butchna]

Most never beat Saban once in a season and nobody ever beats him twice.

And we never ever did again...ever.