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"That the clock is your friend when you are ahead and instead of playing man to man and getting beat deep that you don't need to give up the big play."

My question to the Volnation faithful is, does that mean play not to lose or playing to win??

We have debated this over and over about what we think needs to be done and I think we just got our answer on how Fulmer plays the game with this team. I for one would like to impose our will on teams for 60 minutes a game instead of imposing it for 40 minutes then trying not to lose the game the next 20. Am I wrong in thinking this, or am I just not reading in the statement the right way??
 
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It means play not to lose, which is Fulmers philosophy apparently and not one that I appreciate, fwiw.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
"That the clock is your friend when you are ahead and instead of playing man to man and getting beat deep that you don't need to give up the big play."
My question to the Volnation faithful is, does that mean play not to lose or playing to win??

We have debated this over and over about what we think needs to be done and I think we just got our answer on how Fulmer plays the game with this team. I for one would like to impose our will on teams for 60 minutes a game instead of imposing it for 40 minutes then trying not to lose the game the next 20. Am I wrong in thinking this, or am I just not reading in the statement the right way??
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I agree when you're up by three scores. Otherwise play your base defense and go about your business. Phil has a bad habit of sitting on a 3 point lead.
 
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It all depends on the lead and the time left and how your team is doing on offense and defense. Every coach will run the clock when the situation is right.
 
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Some people call it the Prevent Offense/Defense--most of the time it PREVENTS you from winning
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
Some people call it the Prevent Offense/Defense--most of the time it PREVENTS you from winning
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Not so. Overwhelmingly it pays off. It's just when it doesnt it really stands out. For instance you have a 7 point lead and 1 minute left in the game. If the DB's allow a man to get behind them and they score then the coach will be lambasted for letting that happen. Usually prevent works and just about all coaches run a version of prevent.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
It all depends on the lead and the time left and how your team is doing on offense and defense. Every coach will run the clock when the situation is right.
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On offense, I can understand playing somewhat conservative and running the ball and not taking too many chances that can beat you. On defense, on the other hand, you can't just change what has been working the entire game and go and play "soft" so you don't give up the big play. It only takes 10 yards to get a first down nad if your are playing 7-9 yards off, it's really easy for one of those WR's to make a move and make a big play.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Not so. Overwhelmingly it pays off. It's just when it doesnt it really stands out. For instance you have a 7 point lead and 1 minute left in the game. If the DB's allow a man to get behind them and they score then the coach will be lambasted for letting that happen. Usually prevent works and just about all coaches run a version of prevent.
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Agreed--but....Fulmer has a tendency to do this when he gets up by 7 pts in the 1st Quarter. End of game--I agree. Do it. But 1st Quarter?
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Not so. Overwhelmingly it pays off. It's just when it doesnt it really stands out. For instance you have a 7 point lead and 1 minute left in the game. If the DB's allow a man to get behind them and they score then the coach will be lambasted for letting that happen. Usually prevent works and just about all coaches run a version of prevent.
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We give up 3rd down conversions 40.4% of the time. Playing soft with that stat looking at you doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
 
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g8terh8ter eric sees the truth!!!
Good call. Wouldn't you love to see us rush more than 3 sometimes?
 
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Our db's just give too much cushion most of the time. Plus they give up YAC, thats bad when you're in a prevent defense.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
g8terh8ter eric sees the truth!!!
Good call. Wouldn't you love to see us rush more than 3 sometimes?
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Thing is, Chavis has an NFL mind for blitzing in the SEC and it just doesn't work right now because we don't have the D-Line to do it right now. In the NFL, you can see 4-5 getting pressure on the QB with the way most D-Lines are put together. In fact, I think Chavis has tried to model his D-Line in favor of the Titans D-Line. Problem is for Chavis, Haynesworth isn't wearing UT orange anymore.

We need to blitz 5-6 at least 30-40% of the time to force teams into making mistakes. Our INT numbers are a bit bloated on the year, IMO. Forced fumbles are a better indicator of how good your defense actually is.
 
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please provide a list of the football coaches (who are currently employed) who don't think the same way
 
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utvolpj said:
please provide a list of the football coaches (who are currently employed) who don't think the same way
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Nick Holt (Southern Cal), Will Muschamp (Texas), and Brent Venables (Oklahoma) come to mind. I'm sure I could come up with more. TCU (Dick Bumpas) leads the nation in Total Defense, that's pretty good IMO.
 
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Would you rather see the defense play tight all game and give up a big play that loses the game, or play a soft prevent that allows the other team to dink and dunk down the field, using all the clock only to score anyway? Play YOUR game and keep the intensity up.
 
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We'll blitz some saturday. That offensive line of alabama's is nasty. We get no pressure on parker and we'll get treated like the ugly stepchild again.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Nick Holt (Southern Cal), Will Muschamp (Texas), and Brent Venables (Oklahoma) come to mind. I'm sure I could come up with more.
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so with time winding down in the game and a lead those guys you listed are playing man coverage and bringing the house? Yeah, that's sounds plausible
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
On offense, I can understand playing somewhat conservative and running the ball and not taking too many chances that can beat you. On defense, on the other hand, you can't just change what has been working the entire game and go and play "soft" so you don't give up the big play. It only takes 10 yards to get a first down nad if your are playing 7-9 yards off, it's really easy for one of those WR's to make a move and make a big play.
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I didnt say I really like it either. But pretty much every coach has a prevent D they employ. Some work it better than others.
 
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Cartervol said:
We'll blitz some saturday. That offensive line of alabama's is nasty. We get no pressure on parker and we'll get treated like the ugly stepchild again.
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Parker looked like an All-SEC QB last year against us. I hope that Eric Berry and the defense have a JPW dart board right now. Pressure early and often throughout the game is the only way we win, IMO.
 
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I admire the way Nick Saban approaches this situation. They spoke of it during the Ole Miss game. He refuses to give up any pass; long or short. And he doesn't have safeties like we do.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Parker looked like an All-SEC QB last year against us. I hope that Eric Berry and the defense have a JPW dart board right now. Pressure early and often throughout the game is the only way we win, IMO.
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This game will be won in the trenches. Bama has the edge there. If we don't get pressure early. We'll get 45 snaps on offense the whole game. They'll wear the defense down and basically do the same thing georgia did.
 
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