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Hookers career still has much to go. But curious what the nation thinks. Dobbs vs Hooker who you got?

We love them both so this is not bashing just a friendly debate. Who had the better career at Tennessee? I say Hooker, maybe I’m being a prisoner of the moment but the performance last night was sensational.

Kinda unfair to Dobbs bc he covered a myriad of issues with Butch Jones. Kinda how Bryce Young covered many weird play calls of Bill O’Brien.

who you got?
 
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Volanta said:
Hookers career still has much to go. But curious what the nation thinks. Dobbs vs Hooker who you got?

We love them both so this is not bashing just a friendly debate. Who had the better career at Tennessee? I say Hooker, maybe I’m being a prisoner of the moment but the performance last night was sensational.

Kinda unfair to Dobbs bc he covered a myriad of issues with Butch Jones. Kinda how Bryce Young covered many weird play calls of Bill O’Brien.

who you got?
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Too early to call it. Hooker's senior year is far from done. Dobbs' is in the history books. Let's do stare and compare at season's end.
 
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Volanta said:
Hookers career still has much to go. But curious what the nation thinks. Dobbs vs Hooker who you got?
We love them both so this is not bashing just a friendly debate. Who had the better career at Tennessee? I say Hooker, maybe I’m being a prisoner of the moment but the performance last night was sensational. Kinda unfair to Dobbs bc he covered a myriad of issues with Butch Jones. Kinda how Bryce Young covered many weird play calls of Bill O’Brien.
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I'll say it, Dobbs comes no where near to Hooker.

Dobbs was an exceptional player, but he had big moments where he had game sealing turnovers. Hooker is in a league of his own. Hooker reminds so much of Casey Clausen with more flash. Hooker is an Ice Man. That guy does not get phased by anything. That scoop and score off the botched handoff pissed him off. All I saw after was him slap his hands together and he just had the look of "wait till I get back on the field"....

Dobbs was great and kept us from losing more games than we did in his time, but Hooker is lightyears above him.


In 18 starts, Hooker has 46-4 TD:INT ratio..... Dobbs career TD:INT ratio was 53:29 with virtually 4 years of starting. At this pace, Hooker is likely to hit 60 TD's with single digit INT. That is mind blowing
 
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If it's just thoughts you want, here are mine. Both QBs are Vols, and we are blessed in that area. Dobbs pulled off a great Vols career, not because of, but in spite of his HC. Hooker, left a toxic coach and program, only to come to yet another toxic coach and program at our Pruittized team. Then we got a coach that knows how to coach a QB, installed a system that made prime use of Hooker's abilities. And to date, Hooker is having a fine Vols career. Your question is who had the better career. The answer is Dobbs, because he completed his career. Hooker is still pursuing his career, so doesn't fit the done and gone label. That's my rumination.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I'll say it, Dobbs comes no where near to Hooker.

Dobbs was an exceptional player, but he had big moments where he had game sealing turnovers. Hooker is in a league of his own. Hooker reminds so much of Casey Clausen with more flash. Hooker is an Ice Man. That guy does not get phased by anything. That scoop and score off the botched handoff pissed him off. All I saw after was him slap his hands together and he just had the look of "wait till I get back on the field"....

Dobbs was great and kept us from losing more games than we did in his time, but Hooker is lightyears above him.
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That mental toughness is a product of the culture heup is creating… the fast tempo is only executed well if you are able to reset and play the next play… good or bad Tennessee doesn’t let a past play affect the next play… we force teams to play our brand of football and we execute at a high level… Hendon Hooker is my favorite Qb in UT history because he is doing it when we needed it most as a fanbase…
 
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BoroVol93 said:
That mental toughness is a product of the culture heup is creating… the fast tempo is only executed well if you are able to reset and play the next play… good or bad Tennessee doesn’t let a past play affect the next play… we force teams to play our brand of football and we execute at a high level… Hendon Hooker is my favorite Qb in UT history because he is doing it when we needed it most as a fanbase…
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It is really wild seeing and feeling the calm with him at QB. Like I said, i can't remember a QB emitting that since Clausen. I like Dobbs, but there was always that turnover proneness in big moments. For the first time in long time, I have calm in those big moments for us and its due to Hooker.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I'll say it, Dobbs comes no where near to Hooker.

Dobbs was an exceptional player, but he had big moments where he had game sealing turnovers. Hooker is in a league of his own. Hooker reminds so much of Casey Clausen with more flash. Hooker is an Ice Man. That guy does not get phased by anything. That scoop and score off the botched handoff pissed him off. All I saw after was him slap his hands together and he just had the look of "wait till I get back on the field"....

Dobbs was great and kept us from losing more games than we did in his time, but Hooker is lightyears above him.


In 18 starts, Hooker has 46-4 TD:INT ratio..... Dobbs career TD:INT ratio was 53:29 with virtually 4 years of starting. At this pace, Hooker is likely to hit 60 TD's with single digit INT. That is mind blowing
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Iceman! I like it. He’s stone cold. No emotional wavering. I think that’s because of his faith in God. He trusts that God got him and it’ll work out. Love this man!
 
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BoroVol93 said:
That mental toughness is a product of the culture heup is creating… the fast tempo is only executed well if you are able to reset and play the next play… good or bad Tennessee doesn’t let a past play affect the next play… we force teams to play our brand of football and we execute at a high level… Hendon Hooker is my favorite Qb in UT history because he is doing it when we needed it most as a fanbase…
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I agree!!! Short memories. They execute and don’t get too emotional either way.
 
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Special Ed said:
Josh Dobbs was great, but he would have been phenomenal under the Josh Heupel system.
You can't fairly compare a QB under Botch Jones to a QB under Josh Heupel.
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I agree, it's apples to oranges to try and compare any qb under Butch to one under Heupel. I think Dobbs would been great in this system, but both are very talented
 
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Volanta said:
Hookers career still has much to go. But curious what the nation thinks. Dobbs vs Hooker who you got?

We love them both so this is not bashing just a friendly debate. Who had the better career at Tennessee? I say Hooker, maybe I’m being a prisoner of the moment but the performance last night was sensational.

Kinda unfair to Dobbs bc he covered a myriad of issues with Butch Jones. Kinda how Bryce Young covered many weird play calls of Bill O’Brien.

who you got?
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Hooker because he does the thing Dobbs couldn’t do well. Push the ball down the field. Dobbs was a better runner (him dragging defenders against FL in 16 was insane) but Hooker is the better QB by far
 
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Hooker's a better passer, so I'd go with Hooker. That said, Dobbs was a better improvisor and I would have loved to have seen a version of Josh Dobbs coached by Josh Heupel. Those '15 and '16 teams are not 9-4 teams under Heupel. We're winning at least 11 games both years with that talent coached by Heup.
 
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volfeeva said:
I agree, it's apples to oranges to try and compare any qb under Butch to one under Heupel. I think Dobbs would been great in this system, but both are very talented
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I agree but y’all know how sports debates go you have to ride with whomever was at the helm at the time. Dobbs is the man though- I think Hooker is blessed with a staff that actually gets it.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
Hooker's a better passer, so I'd go with Hooker. That said, I would have loved to have seen a version of Josh Dobbs coached by Josh Heupel. Those '15 and '16 teams are not 9-4 teams under Heupel. We're winning at least 11 games both years with that talent coached by Heup.
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Completely agree. I’ll go as far to say I think we win a national championship with both 15 and 16 teams if Huepel and team coach them. Huepel would know to use ALVIN KAMARA!
 
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Volanta said:
Hookers career still has much to go. But curious what the nation thinks. Dobbs vs Hooker who you got?

We love them both so this is not bashing just a friendly debate. Who had the better career at Tennessee? I say Hooker, maybe I’m being a prisoner of the moment but the performance last night was sensational.

Kinda unfair to Dobbs bc he covered a myriad of issues with Butch Jones. Kinda how Bryce Young covered many weird play calls of Bill O’Brien.

who you got?
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Impossible to compare as one has a coach making him and his teammates better while the other had to overcome a terrible douche bag
 
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Dobbs is a Vol Legend let me say that upfront. He did things in a busted as Ford pinto offense that made it look like a 12 cylinder Ferrari. Many times turning chicken shat into chicken salad. Dobb nail boot was the crown jewel.

However….

The one difference between the two QBs is Dobbs never became a field general. A leader yes but the game changes when you have a general at QB. Hook can make all the throws, tell people where to line up, use his legs to extend plays and rarely makes mistakes.

If you had a gun to my head I’d take Hook but in reality i would take both.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I'll say it, Dobbs comes no where near to Hooker.

Dobbs was an exceptional player, but he had big moments where he had game sealing turnovers. Hooker is in a league of his own. Hooker reminds so much of Casey Clausen with more flash. Hooker is an Ice Man. That guy does not get phased by anything. That scoop and score off the botched handoff pissed him off. All I saw after was him slap his hands together and he just had the look of "wait till I get back on the field"....

Dobbs was great and kept us from losing more games than we did in his time, but Hooker is lightyears above him.


In 18 starts, Hooker has 46-4 TD:INT ratio..... Dobbs career TD:INT ratio was 53:29 with virtually 4 years of starting. At this pace, Hooker is likely to hit 60 TD's with single digit INT. That is mind blowing
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I agree. It's not even close. It's Hooker with room to spare. Hooker beat Alabama. No Dobbs team scored TDs on almost every drive. Hooker doesn't have an Alvin Kamara. Granted Hooker has far better offensive coaches and schemes. Talent-wise the big difference is Hooker is far more accurate passing the football. Accuracy is a far more important skill than running for a QB, although Dobbs just beats Hooker by a hair in that area
 
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Dudleys87 said:
Dobbs is a Vol Legend let me say that upfront. He did things in a busted as Ford pinto offense that made it look like a 12 cylinder Ferrari. Many times turning chicken shat into chicken salad. Dobb nail boot was the crown jewel.

However….

The one difference between the two QBs is Dobbs never became a field general. A leader yes but the game changes when you have a general at QB. Hook can make all the throws, tell people where to line up, use his legs to extend plays and rarely makes mistakes.

If you had a gun to my head I’d take Hook but in reality i would take both.
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Great post! I completely agree!!!! Man it feels great to be back!
 
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