Friday weigh in thread (suns out guns out challenge 8/30/2026

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kiddiedoc said:
The other thing that happened is that people ended up eating more carbs, many of which don't strike you as being "unhealthy." The problem is that most carbs are primarily sugar molecules, and your body handles them very similar to what we perceive as actual "sugar," causing insulin spikes and easily converted to a storage form (fat).
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Tell me if I am wrong because Lord knows I am wrong often but depending on your activity you need carbs for energy for performing. I have found that eating more carbs has helped my energy during my runs (which is my main source of activity)
 
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kiddiedoc said:
The other thing that happened is that people ended up eating more carbs, many of which don't strike you as being "unhealthy." The problem is that most carbs are primarily sugar molecules, and your body handles them very similar to what we perceive as actual "sugar," causing insulin spikes and easily converted to a storage form (fat).
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Yeah but isn't fat still easier to store fats as fat than converting carbs to fat(legitimate question, not try to be a smart aleck)? Wouldn't the issue be that a lot of processed carbs are highly palatable and not filling, resulting in a lot of people overeating and getting into a caloric surplus?
 
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Hunter10139 said:
Yeah but isn't fat still easier to store fats as fat than converting carbs to fat(legitimate question, not try to be a smart aleck)? Wouldn't the issue be that a lot of processed carbs are highly palatable and not filling, resulting in a lot of people overeating and getting into a caloric surplus?
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There are a multitude of factors. But when you eat more carbs than are required for caloric needs, they are readily stored as glycogen and fat. There's also the issue of insulin release in response to carbohydrate digestion. When carbs are restricted, the body realizes a need for energy beyond what is available in easy-to-burn glucose availability, insulin drops, and glycogen and fat is utilized.

Carbohydrates also increase levels of hunger hormones (a somewhat paradoxical effect), while ketosis and fat intake often diminish hunger drive.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
There are a multitude of factors. But when you eat more carbs than are required for caloric needs, they are readily stored as glycogen and fat. There's also the issue of insulin release in response to carbohydrate digestion. When carbs are restricted, the body realizes a need for energy beyond what is available in easy-to-burn glucose availability, insulin drops, and glycogen and fat is utilized.

Carbohydrates also increase levels of hunger hormones (a somewhat paradoxical effect), while ketosis and fat intake often diminish hunger drive.
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I apologize if these are dumb questions or if I seem like I'm not getting the point. When you say '...when you eat more carbs than are required for caloric needs...", do you mean when you eat enough carbs to be in a caloric surplus you store the carbs as fat or are you saying you can store fat from carbs while in a net caloric deficit? I would think the former because I'm not sure how the latter would be possible.

Overall, to my uneducated (in this matter) brain it sounds like what you said still implies that a caloric surplus is what causes the fat gain. However, it sounds like if you're eating fewer or no carbs, eating more fats/proteins, it reduces hunger hormones, making it easier to eat fewer calories and stay at maintenance or in a deficit. Is that correct or am I reading this wrong?
 
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Hunter10139 said:
I apologize if these are dumb questions or if I seem like I'm not getting the point. When you say '...when you eat more carbs than are required for caloric needs...", do you mean when you eat enough carbs to be in a caloric surplus you store the carbs as fat or are you saying you can store fat from carbs while in a net caloric deficit? I would think the former because I'm not sure how the latter would be possible.
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If you are in a caloric deficit, you should not store fat.

Hunter10139 said:
Overall, to my uneducated (in this matter) brain it sounds like what you said still implies that a caloric surplus is what causes the fat gain. However, it sounds like if you're eating fewer or no carbs, eating more fats/proteins, it reduces hunger hormones, making it easier to eat fewer calories and stay at maintenance or in a deficit. Is that correct or am I reading this wrong?
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It's not easy to eat fewer carbs or calories, initially. It actually sucks for the first few weeks. But, once your body converts to ketosis, you become efficient at burning glycogen and fat for glucose and ATP (which is all your body really uses for energy, in the end), as long as there isn't a more readily available source.

The influence of insulin and hunger hormones is really complex.
 
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