Freshmen QB Success

#26
#26
Dobbs is limited as a passer, which isn't ideal but also doesn't mean he and the entire offense can't be good.

There need to be plays dialed up that move the pocket, allow Dobbs to move outside the pocket to find receivers (and limit his reads to one side of the field), and designed run/pass option plays for him. I didn't see any of that in the opener. Dobbs clearly has trouble dropping back in the pocket, being stationary, making a read, and making a good throw. Johnny Manziel was the same way. Not saying Dobbs is as athletic as Manziel, but when he was at A&M they really played to his strengths. Manziel was/is a terrible drop-back passer, but that wasn't always apparent when he was in college because they hardly ever made him do it.

The job of a coaching staff is to put your players in situations to make plays and maximize their ability. If DeBord can't or won't do that, he needs to go.
 
#27
#27
He can and does hit those passes. The oline needs to block and the coaches need to actually call those plays.
 
#28
#28
sjt18 said:
Jones will stick with Dobbs but the template used by ASU will be seen repeatedly until Dobbs proves he can beat it. Stop the run then drop into zone coverage with a spy. Opposing D's are probably better off NOT putting a heavy pass rush on him. Just spy him up the middle and make sure you DE's don't lose outside contain.

Dobbs MUST throw the ball accurately and on time.
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It's no secret that he is a horrible passer.
 
#29
#29
To the poster who says butch doesnt have the balls to sit dobbs... foes anyone remember throwing peterman into the fire against uf.

Dies anybody think this dobbs thing has a feel like the worley situation.... butch saying hes fine while having the backups prepare fot vt

Also it doesnt matter how much better of a passer dormady is if the coaches dont let him throw the ball
 
#31
#31
mr.checkerboards said:
To the poster who says butch doesnt have the balls to sit dobbs... foes anyone remember throwing peterman into the fire against uf.

Dies anybody think this dobbs thing has a feel like the worley situation.... butch saying hes fine while having the backups prepare fot vt
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No and no. Worley wasn't Jones' guy and CBJ never really got past it. He is committed to Dobbs. He did sit Legaux while at Cincy but I don't think Jones viewed him as the settled starter.

Also it doesnt matter how much better of a passer dormady is if the coaches dont let him throw the ball
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Sort of. But decisions with the ball are important when they do throw. Dobbs seems to quickly choose the short pass. In just limited time, Dormady demonstrated more patience to let patterns develop. Same plays.... different decisions by the QB.
 
#32
#32
Titans4Vols said:
No way of telling if JG will be great or not as of yet obviously, but I do feel it's pretty much a lock that he starts next year, and we'll probably see Dormady transfer. JG fits the offense much better in terms of athleticism.
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HOLY CRAP you said Transfer. The riots will be out soon...run if you see pitchforks!!!:)
 
#33
#33
mr.checkerboards said:
To the poster who says butch doesnt have the balls to sit dobbs... foes anyone remember throwing peterman into the fire against uf.

Dies anybody think this dobbs thing has a feel like the worley situation.... butch saying hes fine while having the backups prepare fot vt

Also it doesnt matter how much better of a passer dormady is if the coaches dont let him throw the ball
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No one knows that Dormady is going to be a better passer, it just isn't a fact. They expect him to be but no one know how he will react when the lights are on him. He could crumble under the pressure or he could be great the bottom line is we just don't know!!!

Dobbs didn't cost us the game with APPY St or any other game he has lost in his career. He wasn't the liability the OLine was!!! Atleast that is what every analyst i have heard talk has said.....
 
#34
#34
I'm hoping Debord retires next year and we can bring in another guy who is mainly a great QB coach and can make the in-game adjustments. Doesn't matter too much how he calls plays other than that tho, it's Butch's offense
 
#35
#35
If Dobbs makes a couple bad decisions or isn't hitting the WRs against VT, I say pull him for a couple series and see how Dormady performs. If for nothing else, maybe it will light a fire in Dobbs.

Of course the coaches need to do their part and put him in a position to be successful to begin with. But if he is hitting Kamara's feet 5 yards out...
 
#36
#36
johnrlansford said:
No one knows that Dormady is going to be a better passer, it just isn't a fact. They expect him to be but no one know how he will react when the lights are on him. He could crumble under the pressure or he could be great the bottom line is we just don't know!!!

Dobbs didn't cost us the game with APPY St or any other game he has lost in his career. He wasn't the liability the OLine was!!! Atleast that is what every analyst i have heard talk has said.....
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Dude this is Tennessee where the backup is ALWAYS better. Just wait until JG starts. Some fans will start saying how much better his backup is. I dont think some fans will ever be happy until we find another Peyton Manning.

Also this is VN, where anonymous posters on a message board know much, much more than any CF coach.
 
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#37
#37
BigOrangeTrain said:
Dude this is Tennessee where the backup is ALWAYS better. Just wait until JG starts. Some fans will start saying how much better his backup is. I dont think some fans will ever be happy until we find another Peyton Manning.

Also this is VN, where anonymous posters on a message board know much, much more than any CF coach.
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Now that is one of the most honest post I have ever read..
 
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